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Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sandman on September 23, 2005, 08:18:19 PM
Last one for the season...

I wonder when they'll do a proper full-length season. IIRC, it's at least 20 episodes, maybe 24.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Ikeprof on September 23, 2005, 08:50:14 PM
All I know is though I don't watch TV much, I won't miss it period.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Regular on September 23, 2005, 09:38:58 PM
What Ikeprof said. The older one is way better IMHO.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rpm on September 23, 2005, 09:51:12 PM
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Originally posted by Regular
What Ikeprof said. The older one is way better IMHO.
:huh
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Gunslinger on September 23, 2005, 10:08:48 PM
They said at the end it the season would come back in January.  At least we don't have to wait a full year for it.  

Gotta say tonights epp ROCKED.  What a cliff hanger!
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Ikeprof on September 23, 2005, 11:10:23 PM
O..M...F..G

Wait..am I allowed to say that?!?


I am so......so...cliff hung?!?

Actually I am pissed...don't leave me hanging like that.

Adama is such a kickass good guy.

Man.

How many months till  Jan?
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Wolfala on September 24, 2005, 03:06:56 PM
I want to see Blackbird make her run.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 12:16:29 AM
I didn't think it was all that striking. This is the original Galactica:

(http://members.iinet.net.au/~glenn.crouch/wallpapers/RD2003%20-%20Battlestar%20Galactica%20-%202.jpg)

...and the new one:

(http://www.imipolex-g.de/images/bs_galactica.jpg)

Anyone have a pic of the new Pegasus?
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 12:26:01 AM
(http://www.matthoffman.us/dl/htcbb/bsg-pegasus.jpg)
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Chairboy on September 25, 2005, 12:54:31 AM
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Originally posted by Regular
The older one is way better IMHO.
I call shenanigans.  I doubt you've seen more then three episodes of the new one.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: LLv34 Jarsci on September 25, 2005, 01:33:44 AM
Dammit! I just watched S2E10 and I want more!!

Just typical cliffhanger and I have to wait for 3 moths to see the next ep!!!


AAAAARRRRGH!
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Charon on September 25, 2005, 10:47:11 AM
I found myself agreeing with the new Admiral. Maybe not with her quick use of capital justice, but with her analysis of Galactica and the command and discipline issues that were obvious. Adama does run too loose a ship :)

Charon
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rpm on September 25, 2005, 03:24:21 PM
Adama runs a loose ship, but he's got to deal with the civilian element. The Pegasus was running solo.

Besides, it wouldn't be as interesting if it was all gung ho and no drama.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Gunslinger on September 25, 2005, 03:30:55 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Adama runs a loose ship, but he's got to deal with the civilian element. The Pegasus was running solo.

Besides, it wouldn't be as interesting if it was all gung ho and no drama.


anyone have any predictions as far as the resolution to the stand off goes.  Personally I think the president is going to intervein.  Can't call it if the pegasus is going to split or not though.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 03:33:41 PM
Pegasus goes boom boom, c/o the Cylons, Ms. Admiral goes with it.  She does it for the good of the fleet.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rpm on September 25, 2005, 03:37:07 PM
I think this is just a rewrite of an original episode that featured Lloyd Bridges as the Admiral. Wish I could remember how that one played out. I have a hunch the Cylons will kill take out Pegasus or board her and force Adama to make a mercy kill.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 03:41:50 PM
This isn't the original. :)

Michelle Forbes is better looking than Lloyd Bridges. :)
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 03:46:31 PM
...but I think I liked her better on ST:TNG.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Ikeprof on September 25, 2005, 11:09:11 PM
Regardless of the civilian element, Adama can be a hardass if he needs to be.  His near death experience I think changed his demeanor, but his balance of military discipline and the human element makes him ok in my book.  His XO though..man...he must see something that I don't.

Anyhow, of all the women on BSG, I actually really like the President lady the most (though I am 40, so I guess that  makes sense).

Did I understand correctly that I have to wait till January?!?

C'mon....that can't be right
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Chairboy on September 27, 2005, 11:59:38 PM
(http://hallert.net/images/bsp_cylon_int.png)
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rpm on September 28, 2005, 12:27:50 AM
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Originally posted by Ikeprof
His XO though..man...he must see something that I don't.
Did you see when Tigh jumped Galactica into the middle of the Cylon fleet? Brass balls my friend. He is a great warrior and battlefield commander.

The problem is his biatch of a wife. What the heck was Adama thinking bringing her onboard? She is a clone of my ex. An egocentric, manipulative woman like that will drive ya to drink in no time. She needs a trip thru the airlock.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 12:28:42 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Did you see when he jumped Galactica into the middle of the Cylon fleet? Brass balls my friend. Tigh is a great warrior.

The problem is his biatch of a wife. What the heck was Adama thinking bringing her onboard. She is a clone of my ex. An egocentric, manipulative woman like that will drive ya to drink in no time. She needs a trip thru the airlock.


Yeah, but I bet she shags like a minx.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rpm on September 28, 2005, 12:34:08 AM
Definitely a clone of my ex. It's like Tom Lykis says, the crazy ones are the best in bed.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 28, 2005, 08:54:39 AM
does this come out first on sky?  Wife was all pissed about the cliff hanger..
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Gunslinger on September 28, 2005, 09:45:36 AM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
does this come out first on sky?  Wife was all pissed about the cliff hanger..


We've had it in the states the whole time this season.  I'm not sure about the continuation but it's supposed to come back in January.  They'd be pretty dumb to run it in the UK and not in the states.....but then again this is the network that cancled Farscape in it's prime.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 28, 2005, 10:04:20 AM
it came out on sky about 6 months ahead of scifi..  I hear sky is running it straight through this year so the next episode will be coming out sooner there than in the US.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Gunslinger on September 28, 2005, 10:33:17 AM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
it came out on sky about 6 months ahead of scifi..  I hear sky is running it straight through this year so the next episode will be coming out sooner there than in the US.


That was last season.  This season it was released in the US at the same time.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Chairboy on September 28, 2005, 07:00:06 PM
The real problem here, of course, is that defeating the Pegasus in ship-to-ship action is pyrrhic at best.  It's the kind of fight where even if you win, it's really a victory for the Cylons.

Curious, the only way to win is not to play.

They'll have to back down.  My bet is Starbuck will provide a 'Blackbird ex machina' sitbrief as the two capital ships are at the very brink of annihilation.  She'll pop back out of hyperspace, see the fight, and broadcast her 'shocking' findings.  There will be a couple of Vipers lost in battle, just enough to ensure REALLY POOR RELATIONS between the ships and paving the way for the Pegasus, under the command of a confused and angry Admiral Cain, to sacrifice itself to protect the fleet after a few episodes.  The docureporter will help ensure that there is extensive coverage of the rapes and force the Pegasus crew to deal with an external reality, since they haven't had anyone outside to reflect their actions back at them like a societal mirror.  People in confined places do strange things without even realizing it.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Ikeprof on September 28, 2005, 09:40:01 PM
Interesting thoughts.

Not bad
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sox62 on September 28, 2005, 10:15:48 PM
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Originally posted by Charon
I found myself agreeing with the new Admiral. Maybe not with her quick use of capital justice, but with her analysis of Galactica and the command and discipline issues that were obvious. Adama does run too loose a ship :)

Charon



Yes,the admiral does run a much tighter ship.

Who wouldn't want an admiral who condones the raping of prisoners?
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Chairboy on September 28, 2005, 10:26:38 PM
You assume that she sees the Cylons as people.   As far as she cares, they are just machines that simulate humanity, so what the interogators were doing wasn't rape any more than you rape a hot apple pie when you get home.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: majic on September 28, 2005, 11:17:42 PM
You really should let that pie cool down a bit.  You know, burns and stuff.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 28, 2005, 11:19:42 PM
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Originally posted by majic
You really should let that pie cool down a bit.  You know, burns and stuff.


ala mode silly..


why else would you have ice cream with pie?
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: majic on September 28, 2005, 11:22:24 PM
Sorry, I'm new at this.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 11:34:23 PM
I'm just curious how one gets "up" for a desert.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Chairboy on September 29, 2005, 12:09:30 AM
Just imagine a nice, luscious, shiny red apple.  A drop of morning dew glistens lightly near the top, and the deep curves beckon you with their sinful, lush roundness...

Oh yeah, that's the stuff.

Wait, what were we talking about again?
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: derelict on September 29, 2005, 07:06:53 AM
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they are just machines that simulate humanity


Raping a human is a "power crime" that deserves a bullet to the back of the head.  Raping a toaster is just..... sick.

A "machine" wouldn't care what you did to it and "rape" is not an appropriate term.  If they really believe they can break "it" down by raping "it", then they are assigning it human values and should justifiably treat "it" as such.

Just my $.02.....YMMV
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Chairboy on September 29, 2005, 08:16:06 AM
Agreed, just trying to figure out how otherwise normal humans might end up doing what the Pegasus crew did.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Sox62 on September 29, 2005, 10:55:56 AM
I guess the point I was trying to make,is who is she to question Adama's judgement?

From the treatment of her prisoner,to the shooting of an officer who refused an order,all I see is an ego maniac.

Anyways,great cliff-hanger.Now we all get to wait until January to see how it plays out.

Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Chairboy on September 29, 2005, 11:39:16 AM
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Originally posted by Sox62
I guess the point I was trying to make,is who is she to question Adama's judgement?
His commanding officer.
Title: BSG Tonight
Post by: Charon on September 29, 2005, 12:01:55 PM
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From the treatment of her prisoner,to the shooting of an officer who refused an order,all I see is an ego maniac.


Not professional behavior, though shooting somebody for gross disobedience of orders (in a mutiny way during combat) can be a judgment call. In the implied scenario perhaps not one calling for immediate action.

But then Adama has a crewman who shot the 1st Cylon Susan without orders (showing a lack of discipline and destroying a potential intelligence source) and got a slap on the wrist, the bickering and fraternizeing and lack of military bearing among the crew members, other disobedience not related to the military coup and an XO that is a disaster by any neutral evaluation with know problems and clear examples of questionable judgement.

There might be a reason Adama is outranked by a much younger officer, and maybe its not that he is some misunderstood Billy Mitchell :) I can live with that as a creative element, with him being a flawed commander that ultimately does more good than evil.

The biggest potential series problem I see is the “Star Trek Away Team Syndrome,” where all the major characters who shouldn’t be doing silly things end up doing silly things to be part of the story -- like the chief going on missions he shouldn’t be allowed to participate in because he is valuable as a shipboard maintenance resource. I have a really hard "suspension of disbelief" time with that, and it killed the promising Enterprise series for me.

Charon