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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: hazed- on June 17, 2001, 04:05:00 PM
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With not a mention of when the UK release is due i have finally crumbled and ordered 2 copies of WW2ol today by courier! :D
One for a friend who will be very pleased dont you think? :)
costs a fair bit but i cant be without some form of online war any longer :D
AH will have to stay on hold for a while longer.Those that recommend a break from AH now and then are right!.I sorta miss it now but ive got other games to try for a while like Grand prix legends for serious testing/racing (online) and Action halflife for a touch of madness :D
<S> those i know ,will try AH again in a month or so i think :)
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Operation Flashpoint should be hitting the shelves over there next week. Check it out
:D
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S!
Yep..Operation Flashpoint is released in Finland next week!22.6. or something.Gonna grab my copy of it :)
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Operation Flashpoint?...that is in wich date?...1985?
I like 109s and 190s, not MiG29s, thank you :)
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hey i em a next to go from AH probably no reazon to stay there , DONT wont to fly niki or italian planes i dont wont to fly alied or RAF planes i dont wont to fight with 190 a hog becose 190 was not made for this and hog was not used for this , must be some reason why !
many lw got away Oficialy of corse we can coem back in other calsign if we got tu much bored
i know , is it a whine , ARE u not whin u NOTWHINERS when 190a5 was not corectly set up ?
yes many of you are oportunist , any beter plane is it just what you like , not me !
prek are useles TA suxx you say 190d9 is beter , but still not beter from pony so why to replace for perk instead of pony ?
who care about LW fan customers ?
was OFline about 5 month i payed but not played after 2 years of playing this game , well dont think is it reasin to suport , if they not suport us why to due it ?
will i get ban for that ?
is it a big mounth or just a true ?\
nothing eternal if u not care about it so Pyro HT plzz can u give some Hope for Historical arena where people who prefer soemthing diferent what AH propose now get also the god time ? surely oportunist will never there they will stay in Ma
most off all Online games get some HArdcore arenas and servers where the Gameplay propose hard conditions and biger rewards if Historical arena vorks at that way it wwll be inaf people to use it
once again HT or pyro plz can u give some hope ?
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OK heres a question for the FDBs... how many beers does it take before Minus starts to make sense?
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Understood him :D
He wants a HA, nothing more, nothing less :)
EDIT: No beer needed :D just a fine whine er wine.
[ 06-17-2001: Message edited by: 1776 ]
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From what I understand Operation Flashpoint isn't going to be much of an online game. The netcode isn't so hot. Your supposed to play it offline.
Hans.
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Welp, its still hazy, so I better have another beer.
Gordo
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Gawd, only one thing going on in Ghosth's brain and that's Operation Flashpoint! You're addicted man! ;)
Bring the HA to AH! :D
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Operation Flashpoint netcode is not going to be optimized for the european release, but they are already working on it, since there will be dedicated server support in September.
I got a review copy a couple of days ago and it definitely is inmersive :)
It is not a sim though, and it has simplistic handling for all aerial units... it's still a lot of fun to play.
Daniel, aka Cyrano
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minus... there were a few Hogs in the ETO but the reason there weren't more was due to availability, they were needed in the PAC. If germany wouldn't have folded like a cheap card table under a fat lady then Hogs could have come over from the pac to slaughter german planes.. Be very glad that Hogs were not available. The -1 is a 190a killer and the -4 would make mincemeat of the later 190's. There were U.S. PAC planes in the ETO, f4f's and Hellcats and they easily matched the german planes doing quite well.
The D9 in AH is more than a match for the Mustang IMO but I think perking the Mustang to about 100 perk points would be a good idea. They have nothing but speeed but... I just don't like seeing their cowardly butt's.
lazs
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Matter of fact the Germans captured a RNAF pilot and his ditched F4U in 1944 up in Norway during the attacks on the Tirpitz.
""Corsair JT404 of 1841 squadron. Involved in anti-submarine patrol from HMS Formidable enroute to Scapa after Operation Mascot against the German Battleship Tirpitz, in company with Barracuda of Wing Leader Lt Cdr RS Baker-Falkner. Emergency landing in a field at Sorvag, Hameroy, near Bodo, Norway. The pilot Lt Mattholie taken POW and the aircraft captured. The German authorities made attempts to get the pilot to explain how to fold the wings so as to transport the aircraft to Narvik. Aircraft was ferried by boat for further investigation. It is not known if the Corsair was taken to Germany. This was probably the first Corsair captured by the Germans."
The F6F and 109's mixed it up in the skies of Norway. 109's lost. F4F's also fought Axis planes in the Med.
Just being historically correct ;)
-Westy
[ 06-18-2001: Message edited by: Westy MOL ]
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minus i see what youre saying mate :)
and i agree there is no reason to keep paying while you are not playing.The only thing you lose is the name but seeing as how ive used a different name for every game ive tried its no biggie.
What ive come to realise lately being away from AH is that ive begun to enjoy some of those old GAMES like half-life and some new SIMULATION type games like GPL and F1GP3.
I have realised the attraction of AH is its complex modelling.the fact its not a pick up and play game was the reason i stuck at it.Im picking up the other games easily and they dont hold my attention as long as AH could, but they are fun.So ive decided when AH adds a new feature of any description, be it an unusual LW plane or some type of gameplay change im going to signup for AH but until then i think it would not help me get the AH buzz back :)
minus take a break play some new stuff.HTC will probably be noting the exit of some longtime customers but it may not be such a problem for them.they no doubt have to try to maintain a level of customers rather than worry about individuals tastes.But im sure if they feel the numbers leaving is a problem they will try to entice them back. :D
i hope so but my guess is 5-6 customers leaving isnt a major concern and they probably put it down to natural burnout.
I appreciate HTC's position , its a business and its got to work for the 'masses'.Not their fault thats just the way it is.
What they have given us is STILL the best online game ive seen.Ive just played it too much :D
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westy... have u read the test done on a captured 190A5 against a Hellcat and Corsair? The 190 lost. Best thing a 190 could do was try to use it's slight climb advantage at some alts to try to escape. Basicaly, the Navy planes could follow anything the 190 did but the 190 couldn't follow anything the Navy planes did. If I was in a 190A and seen a Corsair I would do the prudent thing and bail.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs1:
westy... have u read the test done on a captured 190A5 against a Hellcat and Corsair? The 190 lost. Best thing a 190 could do was try to use it's slight climb advantage at some alts to try to escape. Basicaly, the Navy planes could follow anything the 190 did but the 190 couldn't follow anything the Navy planes did. If I was in a 190A and seen a Corsair I would do the prudent thing and bail.
lazs
Now that's just rediculous... I shoot down several F4Us, either model, in the 190A5 way more than they shoot me down... in low level scissor fights.
Tour17:
AKSWulfe has 6 kills and has been killed 0 times in the fw190A-5 against the F4U-1D.
-SW
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Well, I understand Minus quite well. I also like very much historical match-ups and im not any Luft-46/what-if fan.
Historical arena would be great. I would get my account in no time :) AH is great game but latewar gangbang MA is not for me.
FW 190A was a great plane, IMHO.
[ 06-18-2001: Message edited by: illo ]
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hazed : Good take on that !!!
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Hazed!
come back! we miss ya in the MA bud :D
Hajo
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Minus, your gona whine like a stuck pig in wwiionline. At this point in time, its not a flight sim. Nothing is accurate in plane modelings, FM is very outdated. I think it is exactly like AW-DOS 13 years ago. However it is a very nice Tank Sim and 1st person shooter.
Personally i hate the Plasma Bolts that come out of the guns of the fighters. Flight is in easymode or seems to me to be. Ive found no challenge in flying in wwiionline.
I drop in to grab a Tank and thats it. If they fix the Easymode FM and plamsa guns, i might try flying again, but im far happier here in AH...
Dog out.........
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well ive been playing, game needs 512MB no doubt for the best performance.
I flew a ju87 to 'phillipe' which in itself was tricky, map needs work. But i got there and there was a tank trundleing along the road, so i dived in and bombed him,(killing my rear gunner) i was too low but he went up like a roman candle :)
then a spit turned up and i managed to chase him around and shoot him down!.FM wasnt right but it wasnt 'that' bad either.Ju887 can turn but it loses all its speed but regains it fairly quickly.I couldnt say it was wrong cause i havent flown a RL ju87 but it seemed a little too easy.
the rest of the game is great, if a little unfinished.but hey, it had to start somewhere, and that in itself was an acheivement.
seeyou in there
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SW... glad i gave u a chance to brag but that wasn't my intention. How you or I do in the A5/Hog in a game has nothing to do with how the planes did in real life. My comment was on how Corsairs were superior to A5's IN WWII.
I also believe that the relationship exists in AH but the Hog does need a little work. As F4UDOA proved, it doesn't quite hit it's stats but... Even so, I believe equal pilots in AH would do better in the Hog than the A5.
I am mediocre but I have no trouble killing A5's with the Hog. fortunately, I don't ever run into virtual pilots of your awesome and self proclaimed skill. the ones I run into appear to be as mediocre as myself and so the results more match what should happen.
lazs
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Lazs, I was trying to prove a point. I guess it was hard to understand.
Basing how planes should fly versus each other based on past examples (in actual WW2) holds about as much water as saying "I am the best in Aces High, therefore I believe I could shoot down any WWII pilot if I flew in WWII."
Going on past examples, you'd think the P51D was the most awesome dogfighter... but it went up against bomber destroyers and lesser abilitied pilots. (nearing the end of the war, mostly inexperienced/newbie pilots and planes built to just destroy bombers not dogfight)
Fact of the matter is, despite what historical documents and pilot's diaries might indicate... the machine is only 30% of the equation, the man is the other 70%...
That was my point.
-SW
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SW... I beg to differ. i believe that the only difference is that we have more hours in our virtual machines. A mediocre pilot is still a mediocre pilot comparitively speaking.
It is the plane. to a large extent. But... if you use the plane in a way (the MA) that it was not normally used... The P51 is an example, then you will get skewed results.
Just like in WWII there are stars in AH.... guys like drex but... you and I are not in that league. You and I can pick our fights and do well against slightly superior or slightly inferior planes interchangably so long as the pilots are as mediocre or worse than us. Point is... you are allways better off in a hog than a 190A in AH just as you would have been in WWII. What you/we do after that is unimportant and not germain.
lazs
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S> those i know ,will try AH again in a month or so i think
Try?
Would it not have been easier to entitle your post "I tried WWIIOL, Im coming back to AH." Simple.
Or if your staying with the original post title, just say, "Im a retard, WWIIOL sucks bellybutton and I want to fly AH cause it's a blast? WTG HTC for a damn fine product."
You guys will leave AH in a FLAMING wreck of negative emotions and critical rhetoric, but sneak back in as if HTC should be grateful you "try" what you love to play.
Blah.
[ 06-23-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]
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creamo ...let me phrase this right, i dont want to appear too rude...
diddly off you gay boy reno rent boy :D
oops sorry, seems my rudeness limiter is broken.
1. NEVER claimed WW2ol was better than or equal to AH
2. i left AH for reasons i stated, not to play ww2ol.It was not released in UK and i only just decided to order it a week ago.
3. i dont intend to return until new features are added, the 'month or so' was a guess at when 1.08 may arrive.
Would it not have been easier to entitle your post "I tried WWIIOL, Im coming back to AH." Simple.
er no creampuff, dont get your easy anal access knickers in a twist.WW2ol is a different game and by all accounts a great one that is in an early beta like state.
AH was not always the perfect game either, and offered nothing much more when it went to subscription in terms of actual 'game' and models(number of units).It had a much better infrastructure, servers, stability and less demands on the system but i happen to have a system that can run it(WW2ol) and run it well so why should i be bothered?
AH has had my money for almost 2 years.Thats $720? mmm WW2ol has cost me $40 so far and at the moment is free to use.where is the so called rip off? In 2 years time after i have subscribed for $240 MAX will the game be improved you think? refined the way AH has been? more units like AH? i think it will.
BUT seeing as how you never subscribe creamo this isnt something you think about is it?
if WW2ol offered free H2H i think you'd use it and love it.
simple? i think we all know whos simple round here creampuff.Hes wearing 'boy toy' t-shirts has a sore bellybutton and goes by the name of creamo. :)
[ 06-24-2001: Message edited by: hazed- ]
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diddly off you gay boy reno rent boy
Blahahahahahahah!!!!! That is definately an "Animal" quote!
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then animal may have been right :D
for ONCE ;) (joke Animal :D)
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Originally posted by lazs1:
Just like in WWII there are stars in AH.... guys like drex but... you and I are not in that league.
Lazs, we have never or maybe once or twice fought.. so you really don't know how well I can fly. A tour or two ago I got into a knife fight with Drex in his F6F vs me in 190A5. He got me when I decided to dive away, but I held him off for atleast 10 minutes.
I may not be as good as Drex, but I'm atleast on his level.
-SW
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Seawulfe, you're hijacking this post.
Go start a different one called "Apart from Drex I am the best damn pilot here!"
You have my vote, i'm in utter awe LOL... oooh can I touch you? :p
Snorkey
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Originally posted by Li`l Snorkey:
You have my vote, i'm in utter awe LOL... oooh can I touch you? :p
Snorkey
Uhm... where?? <wink> <wink>
-SW
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sw... you and i are mediocre and not in the same league as drex. the only difference between us is that you don't know it or won't admit it. all anyone knows about your skill is what you say (over and over and ove..). I have "fought" drex in fun and held him off for what seemed like 10 minutes. i don't believe any of us have had 10 minute fights. Those 10 minute fights were more like 3 minutes at best.
I watch drex rack up 9 kill sorties in a P47 in knife fights agains even or superior numbers. I fly a better plane on the same sortie and am lucky to get 2 or three. I bet you do more like me than him. Except for you... I have never heard anyone say how good you were. I'm sure people tell you on 1 or in private when you do something pretty good... same happens to me. The few times we have run into each other in the arena, I recall thinking that you were very competent (read dangerous) just like so many others... when I practice against the likes of drex... it is frightening.
I have never heard drex brag. I have heard a lot of people brag for him. Contrast that with the way you do it. To say that you are on the same level as drex is.... delusional. I'm sure you lost a lot of respect over that statement.
lazs
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I'm positive Lazs... no one had respect for me anyway.
Although to say I'm the same as you in regards to ability.. well that's just laughable.
-SW
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guys been drinking too much of that girlie drink err what do they call this? Ahhh Mikes Hard lemonade! :D
Actually, im drinking my girlfriends drink...T-minus 60 seconds till bikini time, and shes on my dock, for the both of us. Thinking i might post some pics.. :eek:
LaVa
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this is like 2 posts in one...laz1 and SW discussing their ability as pilots is like some sort of comedy sketch running in the background :).
lava i have just rated you 5 stars :D NOW ABOUT THOSE PICTURES OF YOUR GIRLFRIEND :p
little update on WW2ol...It has a long way to go before its running right it seems, again you soon desire new planes/tanks/guns etc but the base capturing is definately more fun and requires more effort.The stuka is a great plane but having only 1 bomb is a shame.Flying miles to drop 1 bomb then be essentially a sitting duck with pea shooters isnt very cool :D but the bomb blast effect is fantastic, i was killed by one from what seemed like 100's of yards when i was running on foot and it was brilliant, it really felt like something powerfull just went off near you heheh.jury is still deliberateing but im impressed with most of it.New patch seemed to slow my fps a touch :(
and this is where the game is unacceptable really,
I have a 900 athlon, 512MB, GF2MX and im getting some pretty piss poor fps readings at times.seems it needs some code optimising.
hasnt put me off yet though ;)
<G>
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o yeah buddy its on NOW!
i have 4 snapsshots, for better or for worst we will see how these turn out!! :)
Im on my lapdog without any of my editing watermelon so i might havew to wait till i run these thru adobe's "I hope for better days" program..LOL ok im laughiung here!!.
Anyway, when i get back home ill need some place to put these gems. "loser with no site."
Thanks hazed
LaVa
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"I'm positive Lazs... no one had respect for me anyway."
well.... don't know how positive that is but... without meeting or even knowing much about the people here... How can anyone geive or expect respect?
"Although to say I'm the same as you in regards to ability.. well that's just laughable.
-SW"
No really... your not that bad. On a good day you really are as mediocre as me.
lazs
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S! Lazs, see you in the virtual skies. :)
-SW
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SW is a hell of a stick very good indeed. Lazs is a nightmare in a furball he knows the dynamics of what is going around him at all times, and his ability to survive and kill is quite awesome to watch.
Being on par with any of you two would be a great accomplishment. but again lazs' definition of mediocre might be different then mine.
I think you two should wing up sometime.
Drex
[ 06-28-2001: Message edited by: Drex ]
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I don't remember a sortie with Wulfe around that we didn't clean up on.
I also don't remember a sortie where Drex and Lazs were winging where the same wasn't done.
Of course, I don't ever remember bumping into drex and lazs while winging with wulfie ;)
BTW.. last night highlighted the "those around you" scenario. While fighting with 1 or 2 pilots I'm familiar with, we were unbeatable. I made the mistake of moving to 10 wich must have had a "newbies fly here" sign up for the Bish... fricking BKs were cleaning up. I was amazed at how many countrymates were willing to follow a low 190 all the way back to P14... knowing there were 2 enemy fighters just waiting for them there. Then.. they dragged south from there when engaged. Its always fun to look at two higher inbound cons when 4 of your countrymates are engaged with one fighter on the deck.
<S> to those that know how to fly and fight smart.. even if they don't know ACM.
AKDejaVu
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roadkill drex. you don't know anything about flight sims.
yep deja... if the bks win they musta had a huge advantage.
lazs
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YES YES YOU ARE ALL GREAT YADA YADA YADA :D
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yep deja... if the bks win they musta had a huge advantage.
What part of a 3:5 gives you the implies you had the advantage? I'm just disappointed 4 people would always chose to focus on one of you. Its much nicer to fly with people that know better... wouldn't you agree?
AKDejaVu
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:D
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/wwiiol/stuka1.jpg)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/wwiiol/stuka2.jpg)
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18FPS with that detail?
Top of the line or not... that's some severely loopy and/or bad code.
-SW
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Hehe SW you see only what you want to see ;)
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"...Hehe SW you see only what you want to see...".
Conversely, you don't see what you don't want to see.
I'm trying out WWIIOnline myself and it shows great potential, but it's graphics are abysmal in this day and age. Your screenshot is quite accurate, it shows how grainy it actually is. WWIIOnline has other things going for it, but if you're trying to sell people on the game, posting screenshots is not the way to go.
bowser
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What am I supposed to be looking for? The graphics look almost on par with EAW. I see two Stukas looping, with what appears to be a single bomb inbetween the landing gear.
I see very low FPS with those poor graphics.
What am I supposed to see?
-SW
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There is a funny paradox within the release of WW2OL..
It came out 1 year too early, yet 2 years too late. Go figure.
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Cheerleaders here, cheerleaders there, bloody cheerleaders everywhere. :)
I'll just say this.
Some of the players that used to absolutely HAMMER HTC unceasingly for minor "bugs", technical problems or percieved problems in the FM in AH now come back here to convince everyone that another game is the "greatest thing since sliced bread".
Yet when I check public and other less public forums for another game I don't see those same people complaining about problems that are FAR GREATER, more numerous and much more glaring than anything HTC ever provided for public use...even in the EARLIEST stages of the _really_ free AH beta.
Seems a bit inconsistent to me. But entertaining to see the roles reversed.
Rah-Rah-RAH! anyone?
:D
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There's more in those pics... I meant:
-Two AH players in -39 planes.
-Two Stukas supporting infantry and panzers.
-Stuka pilot yelling "Spit!" (Not 109 or Nik ;))
And this rolls 24/7 :)
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Agreed Toad. :D
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Originally posted by Staga:
There's more in those pics... I meant:
-Two AH players in -39 planes.
-Two Stukas supporting infantry and panzers.
-Stuka pilot yelling "Spit!" (Not 109 or Nik ;))
And this rolls 24/7 :)
And if it was my friend flying the Spit, you'd be saying "hey, where'd the Spit go???" After the 112 patch came out, he can't play more than 5-10 minutes before it freezes on him. He was gunning for my tank and got disconnected, and it flipped my tank! either that or I hit a pebble on the road... :rolleyes:
SW sees only what he wants to see... You don't see what you don't want to see... I don't see what I WANT to see!!! (read in: some consistent performance from the game, for them to put in the rank and supply structures which might actually get the game outta quake mode, for the CPs to work like they're supposed to so both sides don't take over a base deep in enemy territory by skirting past everyone then start launching attacks from two directions, for them to integrate the worlds into one world like they claimed to be able to do so the war might actually expand outside the little itty bitty area we have now, for all those airbases in England to work so we can launch long range bomber strikes, etc etc etc) The game is fun at times, but that's about it. They better keep letting us play online for free (after the $40 initial fee of course) until they get most of the problems worked out.