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Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: FiLtH on September 29, 2005, 09:20:26 AM
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Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: Whisky58 on September 29, 2005, 10:06:05 AM
Chase-me-Charlie-so-I-can-shoot-you-down.

Doubtful.

Historic interest only imho.

PS Can you let me have a signed copy of that print - a true masterpiece. :)
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 29, 2005, 04:42:10 PM
If there is ever going to be a ToD campaign for the Battle of France, then the Defiant would be a must.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 29, 2005, 04:45:13 PM
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Cant have spaces, or else its smashed together, I had to put periods in mine for it to work. (Sig)

Heres a good site for some amazing stuff. Alot of cool planes like the chog.
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: Noir on September 29, 2005, 04:52:22 PM
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If there is ever going to be a ToD campaign for the Battle of France, then the Defiant would be a must.


wabbit hunting ?
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: hogenbor on September 30, 2005, 06:21:53 AM
The Defiant is uebercool. However, in AH the concept of a turreted fighter will prove to be as flawed as it was in real life.

And if we get the Battle of France, we'll need Fairey Battles too... can you say 'sitting duck?'
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: frank3 on September 30, 2005, 11:58:34 AM
The Defiant squadron scored some kills


but they were surprise kills during their first flights, the 109 pilot thought they were fighters --> easy kill but....*poof* quad .303 spitting out from the rear!

After that, the 109 pilots were more cautionate and attacked them from the front and from beneath

Doubt they will do any good in Aces High, unless with a gunner, but it's hard to shoot with 2 people in 1 plane (due to lag, connection etc.)
Title: Re: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: navajoboy on September 30, 2005, 12:25:35 PM
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the Defiant looks like a ship.  nice try though
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 30, 2005, 12:41:51 PM
How come the retards didn't respond to the HO problem by installing quad hizookas to the defiant?

It would have been like a friggin shark with a lazerbeam attached to its head.
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: frank3 on September 30, 2005, 01:13:20 PM
Or even make it so, that the turret could be aimed forwards, and locked into that position so it can shoot forward (trough the propellor)
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 30, 2005, 01:15:28 PM
That would have required an airhead as a pilot though.

(http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/aircraft_images/main_images/defiant1.jpg)
Title: Will the Defiant ever find a home in AH?
Post by: Greebo on September 30, 2005, 01:43:26 PM
The Defiant was certainly a flawed concept. When it was designed the intention was for it to intercept unescorted bombers flying from Germany, the sudden defeat of the Allies in France wasn't anticipated. In this scenario it could have been fairly effective, formating alongside the bomber formations and hitting them from their blindspots. However its very debatable whether a Hurri or Spit couldn't have done a better job even then.

The RAF also misused it, sending it out over the Channel into Messerschmitt infested skies. After a couple of successful sorties, the LW got the Defiant's measure. Apart from the lack of frontal armament, it had a lousy turnrate, so it could neither outurn or outrun its opponents.

The Defiant formations also tended to overclaim drastically, an inevitable result of 2 or 3 gunners all shooting up the same plane. The resultant inflated kill tallies encouraged the RAF high brass keep it in the front line for too long despite crippling losses. In hindsight they should have withdrawn the Defiants to the North of England so they could have freed up a couple of Hurri or Spit squadrons to the South.