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Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: Pepino on January 19, 2001, 06:50:00 AM
Do you want engine to die when Wep is abused?
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: RAM on January 19, 2001, 06:58:00 AM
not immediatly, overheated engines tended to lose some power first.

with that modelled, definitely, yes.
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: Naso on January 19, 2001, 07:03:00 AM
With some warning, yes
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: straffo on January 19, 2001, 07:35:00 AM
YES sure (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: lazs on January 19, 2001, 08:32:00 AM
Only if it happened after about 15 minutes of use since U.S. planes routinely ran their water tanks dry with no harmful effects.  Even overstressed german engines could run that long on water or nitrous.  Otherwise..

NO.
lazs


Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: funked on January 19, 2001, 09:36:00 AM
No, because abusing WEP would not geneally destroy an engine in the short term.  The long term effects on engine life were the real issue.
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: mrfish on January 19, 2001, 09:52:00 AM
no
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: Swoop on January 19, 2001, 10:09:00 AM
definately yes.

but here's how:


WEP shouldnt switch itself off.......instead the engine should just get hotter and hotter and hotter......you'll eventually (and I'm not talking a mere 10 minutes here) start to hear a ringing sound as things start to melt.......then a gradual power fade until, finally, something important melts.....and either the engine suddenly seizes or a barrel gets fouled by a lump of molten piston ring or whatever......and then detonation occurs.


Swoop


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Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: ZOSO on January 19, 2001, 10:22:00 AM
Wow Swoop, sounds good!
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: Karnak on January 19, 2001, 01:04:00 PM
Yes, as Swoop says.  It would give a purpose for the Tempature gauge.

EAW handled it this way.  More or less.

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Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: -duma- on January 19, 2001, 01:08:00 PM
No, because it just allows people to game the game running their engines at WEP up to the exact point just before engine degradation, whereas in real life they'd want to save their engines.
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: popeye on January 19, 2001, 01:20:00 PM
What Swoop said.
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: TheWobble on January 19, 2001, 02:07:00 PM
ya need some kind of warning for the wep..

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Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: Robert on January 19, 2001, 02:11:00 PM
I'm all for something different when it comes to the engine. Riding around with 100% throttle and what seems to be unlimited wep seemd kinda funny.

RWY
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: MiG Eater on January 19, 2001, 02:23:00 PM
A qualified No.

Since the WEP system uses an alcohol/water mixture for cooling purposes at high power, parts won't start "melting off of the engine" until the reservoir runs dry.  Even then, in AH, your power automatically goes back to mil setting if the throttle is still full forward.  The WEP system doesn't add power in an airplane per se, it keeps the engine cool.  When the pilot pushes the throttle through a safety wired gate on the throttle quadrant, the extra throw allows additional manifold pressure and the resultant increase in power.

OTH

Extended use of nitrous oxide injection systems, as modeled in some LW airplanes, does directly add power by injecting a combustable gas in with the fuel/air mixture.  The cooling effects are less than the US WEP and LW alcohol/water injection systems and may warrant a Yes.


MiG

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Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: SKurj on January 19, 2001, 06:43:00 PM
NO

AKskurj
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: paintmaw on January 19, 2001, 07:46:00 PM
NO!!!
and head gasket would go first , or a valve , exhaust valve most likely
Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: Daff on January 19, 2001, 07:59:00 PM
On the P-47's, the MAP would automaticly return to normal max power when the watertank ran dry.

Daff

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Title: W.E.P. - Poll
Post by: Voss on January 19, 2001, 08:49:00 PM
I would prefer it stays as is. Constant change can be confusing.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Otherwise, should there be a change, rearming and refueling should not reset wear.

Voss 13th T.A.S.