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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wilbus on October 01, 2005, 07:07:04 AM
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Please :)
I know some planes have been remade already, such as the P51 but even the P51 cockpit is not up to the Fw190 standard.
The 190 cockpits really are those that gives you the best immersion and realistic feeling. While some planes such as the P51's have been updated someone forgot to modell every bar in the canopy (and other things) to 3D.
Fw 190 cockpits is what should set the standard.
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Hi Wilbuz, how are you today? When are you going to send some blonde Swedish hotties my way? :D
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Will never happen furball.
While Wilbuz might share a kill now & then he keeps all the girls strickly to himself.
BTW Wilbuz keep that little black book up to date. You could probably sell it on ebay in a year or so for a healthy sum.!
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Ghosth is right Furball, I will never send you any Swedish girls to you. They are mine and all mine ;)
LoL Ghosth, yeah, we'll see ;)
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Wilbuz, I'm not entirely convinced the 190s have 3D cockpit frames. Rather, I think the person that did the cockpit textured the interior skin to LOOK like 3d on a 2D surface. Try as I might, move the head position around, zoom in and out, I can't see any depth on them. I think it's a trick of the texturing.
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Just did Krusty, both from inside and outside and all the bars in the front of the 190 (pretty much all there are part from the top one) are 3D.
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I'm sure HTC is working their bellybutton off with remodelling, but you cannot just demand that they remodell all cockpits immediately
I bet one cockpit takes alot of time to make
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Yes Yes Frank I know and I don't demand anything :)
But like I said, even the planes remodelled before the 190's aren't up to 190 standard IMO.
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I think every plane will get better as HTC remodels them. Planes like the KI84 could use some updated cockpit skinning though, the bars in that are definately the worst of all the new models. But again, this is probably because it was the first of the new models to come out.
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On the contrary, I vote for redoing the 190 cockpit frames to match the P51s. The 190's frames yield an unduely restrictive view. I used to use the 190A a lot, and no longer do.
Just my opinion. :-)
(BTW, please don't make gameplay suggestions; I am familiar with the various methods for looking around canopy bars in AH).
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Im sure it's just a matter of time, everything probably gets remodelled, HTC seems to get the hang of it!
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Of course everything gets remodelled. That is not what I am asking for. What I would like to see is that the planes that get remodelled are done so after the 190 standards.
The P47's and P51's were remodelled AFTER the 190's were yet they don't have as good looking cockpits. The P51 still have 2D bars.
And yes the 190 bars are in the way but they also give you a far better immersion IMO :)
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Wilbus,
Immersion for screen shots, maybe. But not immersion for dogfighting. Makes deflection shooting (which is already difficult as it should be) almost impossible from certain angles.
The problem with using actual thicknesses for cockpit canopies in AH is the "fisheye lens" effect they use to compensate for the small size of the computer screen. This effect gives us a more realistic field of view, but it also magnifies canopy bars in proportion. I always felt that the 2-D canopy bars in most current planes was a reasonable workaround for this visibility issue. I was greatly relieved when the new 51s returned to the 2D bars, hoping this was intentional.
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Rgr you may be right, and the deflection shooting is far more difficult in 190's now then in pretty much any other plane. Possibly the worst forward view in AH now.
But I still like the immersion, only plane that feels more like a plane IMO thanks to cockpits. 109's are nice aswell.
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OMFG?!?!?!
MY LIGHTNING AND JUGS HAVE SPECIAL-190 TREATMENT
:cry :furious
:D
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Originally posted by Wilbus
know some planes have been remade already, such as the P51 but even the P51 cockpit is not up to the Fw190 standard.
New Ami planes "standard" is much better for the pilot than 190 or new 109 thick bars. I doubt they will touch any of them :rolleyes:
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"Standard" "Ami" plane cockpit :
(http://www.dangreve.com/51.jpg)
"Standard" "Luft-weenie" cockpit:
(http://www.dangreve.com/1091.jpg)
(http://www.dangreve.com/1092.jpg)
Who's designer screwed up and gave the crappier view?
BTW - can really see how small the 109 cockpit was in the middle picture in relationship to the pilot.
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Please :)
IFw 190 cockpits is what should set the standard.
Fixing cockpits only,would be like giving a vitamin to a dead horse
Lancs are faster @high alt,and climb higher than most of Fw190s, 109s Why did they send them in the night? same with most bombers, don't think to catch them at 20k+
The german canons damage are a sad joke, comparing with all other 20mm
+++ turn,roll, lop, acceleration ,damage is unfair modeled on most of german planes
imop, the whole flight model on german planes need a tune up
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Waffle, I wouldn't go as far as calling those standard ami cockpits. P38's sucked, birdcage canopys were common etc. But that isn't the point. Why show the standard "german" cockpit on pictures of a 109 in a 190 thread? Not too clever ;)
Second, that is not what the thread is about so stop trying to hijack.
What I wanted was all cockpits to look as nice as 190 cockpits, I don't think even the newly redone planes look as good. This includes the 3D bars.
So again, please don't try to hijack.
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my comment was in response to the comment above that... a hijack on top of hijack :) Case being the canopies on the 47s and P51s were alot thinner than the 109s / 190s.
Originally posted by MANDO
New Ami planes "standard" is much better for the pilot than 190 or new 109 thick bars. I doubt they will touch any of them :rolleyes:
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(http://www.dangreve.com/51.jpg)
that forward horizontal bar looks like it is right in the pilots LOS, is it because he has his seat cranked up?
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RgR Waffle.
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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
[B(http://www.dangreve.com/1092.jpg)[/B]
What's this version of the 109? It seems to have lost it's middle-bar on the side of the canopy?
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"Erla" canopy Frank, often misstaken for "Galland Hood" in books.
This was starting to be equiped on G6's and became more and more common.
This is the same canopy as our G10 and G6 in AH2 has got, and the G14 and K4 will have after the "remake".