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Title: What is faster?
Post by: Delirium on October 01, 2005, 07:49:45 AM

What is faster?

An AMD Athlon 64 3200 with a 1 meg cache

OR

A Pentium 4, 3 Gig, 800mhz bus, 1 meg cache

???

Thanks in advance...

Title: What is faster?
Post by: ALF on October 01, 2005, 11:24:17 AM

It depends on what you want to do with the computer....in general:

The Athlon is a bit faster in many games and kicks the Pentiums butt in several games.

The Pentium is faster at encoding audio and video and doing several other none gaming applications like POVRAY and such.

For me it came down to the fact that although I do A LOT...and I mean a CRAPLOAD of video encoding ( I have a secondary puter I use like a tivo, and use my faster primary computer to re-encode the mpeg2 captures into mpeg 4 reducing the size to 1/3 the original).   I can setup my encoding to run whne Im not using my system, sure it takes 1:45 to reencode a 1 hour show, but who cares Im not sitting there watching it.  When Im playing a game, I need the computer to be as fast as possible right then.....so if you play games and arnt rendering an animated 3d render movie full time....its pretty clear IMHO what you should do.

Title: Re: What is faster?
Post by: whels on October 01, 2005, 05:42:29 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Delirium
What is faster?

An AMD Athlon 64 3200 with a 1 meg cache

OR

A Pentium 4, 3 Gig, 800mhz bus, 1 meg cache

???

Thanks in advance...

for gaming the AMD 64 3200 will be faster then the P4 3 gig.

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Krusty on October 01, 2005, 06:34:18 PM

But isn't that only because the AMD runs at a higher FSB than 800MHz? Isn't that AMD chip at 1000MHz FSB?

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Capz on October 01, 2005, 07:53:00 PM

Delirium, I have that same processor...it rocks, and probably blows the P4 out of the water for gaming :)

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Kev367th on October 01, 2005, 08:30:23 PM

Latest A64s with SSE3 there is a lot less of a diff for encoding between them and the P4's.

Krusty - A64's don't have a front side bus. The memory controller is on the CPU.
Latest A64s (once BIOS is redone) will support DDR500 with the modified multipliers. So with HTT you will get 1000 bi-directional.

However you can set the HTT to 1000 now, but essentially you are running 'out of synch'.

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Delirium on October 01, 2005, 10:07:55 PM

Thanks for the input... I guess I'll put my old 3200 into my backup machine instead of using the P4.

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 01, 2005, 11:19:14 PM

How are the AMD Semptron 64s?  Saw that the new ones are coming out finally with the 64bit instructions sets enabled, unlike the A series.


ack-ack

Title: What is faster?
Post by: FTJR on October 01, 2005, 11:22:10 PM

BUT is there a point were all machines are so fast that there is little difference in what the user sees on the screen? ANd have we reached that point?

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Krusty on October 01, 2005, 11:47:08 PM

For the most part, yes. I.e. if something were 50 clock cycles faster out of 1.5 million clock cycles, I guarantee NOBODY would be able to tell the difference :P

Title: What is faster?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on October 02, 2005, 12:07:31 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
How are the AMD Semptron 64s?  Saw that the new ones are coming out finally with the 64bit instructions sets enabled, unlike the A series.


ack-ack

Ack ack, there's a thread in this forum that deals with the Semprons, and a link to a very informative article where they put the A64, the Sepron64, the P4 and the Celeron that does 64 bit all up to a head to head to head to head competition.  As expected, the P4 and A64 swapped off for the top spots, depending on the app. they were testing.  The Sempron64s didnt do too badly.  The Celerons just purely sucked mud down at the bottom.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159758

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Krusty on October 02, 2005, 01:35:57 AM

Celery's for eating, not for computing. :lol

Title: What is faster?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on October 02, 2005, 02:42:59 PM

Umm........lots of fiber and goes great with Peanut Butter?  :)

Title: What is faster?
Post by: buzkill on October 03, 2005, 01:23:42 PM

gives me gas:confused:

Title: What is faster?
Post by: Krusty on October 03, 2005, 02:04:29 PM

gives my sister's PC gas too, apparently :P

(for those that don't know Celery = Celeron)