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Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Chairboy on October 01, 2005, 06:43:04 PM
http://cbs5.com/californiawire/CA--FBI-Carjacking-kn/resources_news_html
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Xargos on October 01, 2005, 06:47:27 PM
LOL...Too bad they didn't kill all four of them.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Dago on October 01, 2005, 09:01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Xargos
LOL...Too bad they didn't kill all four of them.


Agreed.  

I wonder how many of us "racists" think "probably black" automatically?
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: MrCoffee on October 01, 2005, 09:38:57 PM
haha dam carjacking terrorists.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: midnight Target on October 01, 2005, 10:20:05 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Agreed.  

I wonder how many of us "racists" think "probably black" automatically?


Probably all of you.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Pooh21 on October 01, 2005, 10:25:46 PM
I thought Canadian, eh?
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Sandman on October 01, 2005, 10:27:20 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Probably all of you.


Guilty as charged. I had to go back and re-read the article, but yeah... I made that assumption.

Something for me to work on.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Dago on October 01, 2005, 10:32:35 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Probably all of you.


And when you mentally pictured this incident in your mind, what color where the bad guys?

And be honest.


dago
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: SOB on October 01, 2005, 10:36:37 PM
Do you mentally picture every bad person you hear about as black?  Or do you picture some of them as latino?
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Sandman on October 01, 2005, 10:46:54 PM
I don't picture pale skinned red-heads, if that's what you mean.

That, nor big men with fish in their pants. ;)
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on October 01, 2005, 10:50:06 PM
I honestly didn't even think about color. I.Q.? Sure. Color? Nah. Thugs come in all sorts of colors.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Xargos on October 01, 2005, 10:55:06 PM
The last guy who tried to break into my house was white and I had no problem with shooting him.  I'm tired of this BS about race being the only reason us whites want criminals to be punished.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 01, 2005, 11:00:01 PM
MT, what race did the suspects actually turn out to be?
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Sandman on October 01, 2005, 11:00:04 PM
Nice strawman, Xargos. See if anyone bites.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Debonair on October 02, 2005, 03:59:52 AM
I think it was intelligent to design the armed FBI agents into that vehicle
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: lazs2 on October 02, 2005, 09:40:15 AM
but... but... I thought that it was allways best to just give the criminal whatever he wants and beg for him to not hurt you?

The Fibie not taking their own advice?

lazs
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Dago on October 02, 2005, 10:00:22 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
but... but... I thought that it was allways best to just give the criminal whatever he wants and beg for him to not hurt you?

The Fibie not taking their own advice?

lazs


Except in Florida, where first you "pop a cap on his ass", then ask questions later.  :D :aok :D :aok

I hope with all my heart I never have to shoot anyone, and if an intruder breaks into my house, I would give him one chance to surrender and lay down, if he didnt immediately comply, I would not hesitate to protect my family and myself with lethal force.

dago
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: midnight Target on October 02, 2005, 10:18:30 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
MT, what race did the suspects actually turn out to be?


Not a clue. But please read the question I answered...

"How many of us racists" ...........

My answer was all of you (racists). Get it.. it was aimed at racists... see how the English language works?
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: gofaster on October 02, 2005, 10:18:47 PM
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Originally posted by Debonair
I think it was intelligent to design the armed FBI agents into that vehicle


LOL! Nice subliminal! And timely!

Here's the story, before it gets pulled.

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Man killed in alleged carjacking attempt of FBI agents
Man killed in alleged carjacking attempt of FBI agents
Saturday October 01, 2005
LOS ANGELES (AP) One man was shot to death and another wounded after they allegedly attempted a carjacking against two FBI agents who were conducting surveillance, officials said.

The FBI agents apparently were targeted randomly and the incident remains under investigation.

FBI officials Friday declined to identify the slain suspect pending the notification of his relatives. The identity of the wounded suspect also was being withheld, along with the names of two others who were arrested because they are minors.

Both agents were assigned to the FBI's Los Angeles field office. The agency did not disclose their names.

The bureau said in a statement that the two agents were in a parked vehicle in Reseda during an investigation of a violation of the Hobbs Act, which concerns extortion and robbery.

The agents were ``accosted by four young male subjects, at least one of whom was armed'' about midnight and an altercation ensued when the four suspects allegedly tried to take the agents' vehicle, FBI officials said.

Authorities did not say how many shots were fired or how many individuals had guns.

The wounded suspect was hospitalized in stable condition. The other two suspects were in the custody of the Los Angeles Police Department.

FBI officials said a special team will investigate the shooting while local officials will consider criminal charges against the suspects.


(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: usuqa_mdiq on October 02, 2005, 11:48:23 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Agreed.  

I wonder how many of us "racists" think "probably black" automatically?


 or mexicans..
could have been bankers trying to repo a vehicle?
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Hangtime on October 03, 2005, 04:49:51 AM
I was born and raised in Reseda. Used to be a real nice quiet suburban town in the western San Fernando Valley. Rainbird sprinklers in the morning, riding my bike tossing papers, my dog tagging alongside. Can't recall a single violent crime in the area as a kid.

Oh well.

Lock 'n Load, Holmes. Gotta packa gang bangers to pop up on Ventura Blvd....
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: lazs2 on October 03, 2005, 08:05:40 AM
car jacking is not a crime that white crooks seem fond of.

lazs
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Dago on October 03, 2005, 09:02:46 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Not a clue. But please read the question I answered...

"How many of us racists" ...........

My answer was all of you (racists). Get it.. it was aimed at racists... see how the English language works?


I guess MT doesnt want to answer my question, and I am sure it is because he knows his answer would be the same as mine, he first thought "black".

He doesnt want to admit that:

1) Majority of carjackers are black

2) He is only human and assumes the same thing as the rest of us

dago
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: BTW on October 03, 2005, 09:09:41 AM
>>*Victims identified the offenders' race as white in 32% of all
carjackings, black in 49%, and Asian or American Indian in 6%.
<<

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/c.txt
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Chairboy on October 03, 2005, 09:34:26 AM
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*Men were more likely than women (.3 per 1,000 compared to .1
per 1,000) and blacks were more likely than whites (.4 and .2
respectively) to be victimized by carjacking.  Persons age 35
or older were less likely than younger people to become
carjacking victims.
TWICE as likely to be carjacked if you're black?  That sucks.

I hate racial associations like this, it reinforces unrelated stereotypes through association, not to mention that it's really sad.  It's too bad that the hardcore "Gangsta rap" musicians don't face the same stigma in their community that white supremecist bands do in theirs.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: midnight Target on October 03, 2005, 10:02:37 AM
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Originally posted by Dago
And when you mentally pictured this incident in your mind, what color where the bad guys?

And be honest.


dago


Been a while since I've visited Reseda, but last I was there it was pretty much white / maybe some mexican population. Reseda always meant white punks to me.

shrugs... there you go.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: BTW on October 03, 2005, 11:13:44 AM
Reseda brings Tom Petty to mind (Free Falling) . There ya go - Tom Petty is the car jacker:rolleyes:
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: ATA on October 03, 2005, 11:19:28 AM
Whell if they were black,they will let them go(couse they black),
and they gonna fire the guy who shot one of them(if the dead guy were black of course).
C'mon people,cant forget OJ Simpson.
BTW i never had a problem with blacks untill i moved to USA.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: Rude on October 03, 2005, 05:01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Guilty as charged. I had to go back and re-read the article, but yeah... I made that assumption.

Something for me to work on.


Nothing for you to be sorry about....if you had summised they were black due to an inborn hatred you have of African Americans, then yes, you would have alot to work on.

Reality is this...not too many rich suburban middle schoolers out carjacking at gunpoint...it's a simple statistics thingie.

I honestly didn't give it a thought as I read the article...black or white is irrelevant....lawbreakers and a threat to innocent people is the real issue...time to toughen our laws and enforce the ones currently on the books.
Title: Darwin thins the herd
Post by: midnight Target on October 03, 2005, 05:18:50 PM
Hey there Mr. Rude. Where you been hiding?