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Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: MrCoffee on October 02, 2005, 01:40:47 AM
Sadam Hussein, ok mass murderer but wmd is kinda shaky. He wouldnt have even been invaded if it werent for the UN wmd allegations. What do you think?
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Yeager on October 02, 2005, 01:44:27 AM
Hard to say really........

I thought George Sr (aka Whimpy) would have saved us 15 years and 5000 american lives had he supported the Shiia uprsising back in 91
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Nash on October 02, 2005, 01:48:31 AM
lol... I thought mine were obtuse!

(woot, speaking of obtuse - nice edit Yeager. Keeps my track record alive at least.)

j/k Coffee. But "wmd kinda shaky?"

That's like some family wakin' up in San Fran circa 1906 and sayin' "Did you feel that, honey?"
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Leslie on October 02, 2005, 02:18:03 AM
Aren't  mustard gas and nerve gas shells  wmds?  He already used them against Iran in the Iran-Iraq War.

He tried to build a ballistic cannon that would fire a shell 300 miles, and was building a nuclear facility.

His troops torched oil wells in Kuwait in an attempt to destroy the oil fields.  Had those fires not been put out and were still burning today, what would the air be like?

If Saddam wasn't caught with wmds that doesn't mean they weren't there.  Seems foolish to think they weren't, considering Saddam's terrorist record.  One of the worst terrorists in modern times.  Good riddance.




Les
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Yeager on October 02, 2005, 02:21:32 AM
WAIT DAMNIT


I recommend waiting a least 5 minutes before replying to anything I post.  I use live edit.


LOL  :D
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Nash on October 02, 2005, 02:29:34 AM
I've been known to dabble as well. :)
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Sandman on October 02, 2005, 02:33:41 AM
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Originally posted by Leslie

If Saddam wasn't caught with wmds that doesn't mean they weren't there.  Seems foolish to think they weren't, considering Saddam's terrorist record.  One of the worst terrorists in modern times.  Good riddance.

Les


Damn straight. We owe him for bankrolling the 911 attacks.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Nash on October 02, 2005, 02:38:54 AM


Lol you're a bastard, Yeager. :D
Title: Re: defendant Hussein
Post by: Lizard3 on October 02, 2005, 03:07:55 AM
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
but wmd is kinda shaky.  What do you think?


Uh...not shakey at all. No SF here, move along.

He gassed a couple of Kurd villages....what 5000-1000 dead?

He used it on the Iranians as well.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Lizard3 on October 02, 2005, 03:10:36 AM
Saddam 'confesses' crimes

08sep05

IRAQ'S president yesterday said Saddam Hussein had confessed to killings and other crimes during his regime, including the massacre of thousands of Kurds in the late 1980s.

 
 
 
 
 
 
President Jalal Talabani told Iraqi television he had been informed by an investigating judge that he was able to extract confessions about crimes such as executions that the ousted leader had personally ordered.
Asked about specific examples, Mr Talabani, a Kurd, replied, "Anfal", the code name for the 1987-1988 campaign, which his Patriotic Union of Kurdistan maintains led to the deaths of about 182,000 Kurds and the destruction of dozens of Kurdish villages.

Kurds (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16526006%255E663,00.html)
Title: Re: Re: defendant Hussein
Post by: Lizard3 on October 02, 2005, 03:11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Lizard3
Uh...not shakey at all. No SF here, move along.

He gassed a couple of Kurd villages....what 5000-1000 dead?

He used it on the Iranians as well.


Sorry, spoke to soon...180,000 dead kurds.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Leslie on October 02, 2005, 03:14:52 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Damn straight. We owe him for bankrolling the 911 attacks.




Not what I'm talking about.  But thank you for making me aware of this.  If so then another good reason for war.  Saddam was the leader of Iraq and should be held responsible for the actions of the government.




Les
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: -tronski- on October 02, 2005, 03:16:45 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Damn straight. We owe him for bankrolling the 911 attacks.


Hussein bankrolled 911??

 Tronsky
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Nash on October 02, 2005, 03:21:13 AM
I don't suppose he confessed to the WTC while he was at it?

oops... different guy.

The problem guys like you have is that.... While your awakening to the plight of the world's citizens is touching - nobody buys it.

All of a sudden you expect us to believe that you've always had a soft spot in your heart for Kurds?

Give me a break. Yer basically using dead Kurds to buffer an insane argument, while expecting us to actually believe that you have ever really cared about dead Kurds.

Pfhhht. No way.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Sandman on October 02, 2005, 03:23:02 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
I don't suppose he confessed to the WTC while he was at it?
 


He should. He did that too.

He also blew up the levees in New Orleans.


When I was in junior high school, someone stole my bicycle off the rack. Cut right through the lock. I don't have any proof, but I think he did that too.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Nash on October 02, 2005, 03:26:17 AM
Heh.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: -tronski- on October 02, 2005, 03:32:49 AM
Bloody hell I thought I'd fallen asleep and missed having to wade through the told you so threads...

 Tronsky
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Lizard3 on October 02, 2005, 03:52:56 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
I don't suppose he confessed to the WTC while he was at it?

oops... different guy.

The problem guys like you have is that.... While your awakening to the plight of the world's citizens is touching - nobody buys it.

All of a sudden you expect us to believe that you've always had a soft spot in your heart for Kurds?

Give me a break. Yer basically using dead Kurds to buffer an insane argument, while expecting us to actually believe that you have ever really cared about dead Kurds.

Pfhhht. No way.


Nash yer touched.  Yeah, thought it was really fluff'n aweful when it first came out.

The issue is weather or not SH is guilty of having/using WMD. The answer to that is an unqualified YES. Just because yer panties are all in a bunch over GW winning the election and therefore anything he has anything to do with is wrong, doesn't mean SH is all shiney now does it. Or does it?
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Delirium on October 02, 2005, 05:23:38 AM
Political agendas aside (if anyone can do that in this forum anymore) and your personal (and often jaded) feelings towards the USA;

I strongly recommend everyone with an interest in WWII watch the proceedings against Hussein.

It will be eerily similar to the Nuremburg in the way Goering attempted to 'swagger' his way out of responsibilty and blame.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Sandman on October 02, 2005, 09:42:31 AM
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Originally posted by Lizard3
Nash yer touched.  Yeah, thought it was really fluff'n aweful when it first came out.

The issue is weather or not SH is guilty of having/using WMD. The answer to that is an unqualified YES.


You bet. Hussein gassed the Kurds in 1988. It makes absolute sense to start doing something about it fourteen years later.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Krusher on October 02, 2005, 09:58:40 AM
As long as this trial takes less time than the show trial they are putting on for Milosavic.

He will probably die of old age long before an actual verdict.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: lazs2 on October 02, 2005, 10:24:55 AM
well sandie... it makes at least as much sense as those nazi hunter guys right?

lazs
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Sandman on October 02, 2005, 10:35:55 AM
The Nazi hunters didn't wait fourteen years to act.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Torque on October 02, 2005, 10:46:13 AM
the anfal campaign was good for american business.
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Hangtime on October 02, 2005, 10:56:09 AM
WMD's were a forgone conclusion. We knew they had 'em.. Bush's daddy was holding the receipt.

Only lasting question is... 'who's got 'em now?'
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Leslie on October 02, 2005, 11:06:48 AM
Iraq has historically been a Soviet satelite country.  I would say they have 'em.



Les
Title: defendant Hussein
Post by: Gunslinger on October 02, 2005, 11:08:07 AM
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Title: Re: defendant Hussein
Post by: Dago on October 02, 2005, 11:15:22 AM
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
Sadam Hussein, ok mass murderer but wmd is kinda shaky. He wouldnt have even been invaded if it werent for the UN wmd allegations. What do you think?


Wow, I am sure glad you brought this up since nobody else has brought up the lack of WMD.  

Really original.