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Title: The End Times...
Post by: Nash on October 02, 2005, 10:49:15 PM
Okay...

Some horrific catastrophe.... and the world goes lights out. Goodnight John, goodnight Suzie.

I don't really give it much thought.... although there was this one day about a year ago when I walked by one of those newspaper boxes, misread a headline, and it was like "OMG that's it. It's all over."

So.... but...  what?... Maybe it's robots gettin' wise, demanding higher pay and shorter hours, and ultimately sayin' ta hell with tha man and deciding to mow everyone down with laser beams.

Or the environment becomes the earth-sized equivalent of some pimply faced teenager's bedroom.... and Mother Nature decides to discipline us with like, the ultimate rolling pin of you're-so-grounded and ps. here's like, a huge flood.

Or a butterfly flaps its wings in Tokyo, someone gets distracted -  drops a coupla yen - and by the time the stock markets re-open on the East coast everyone's suddenly without electricity and you're no longer on speakin' terms with your ATM.

Or the sun is coming up, you're on your daily commute to work, feeling the good vibes coming from your Eric Clapton CD as you pull into the Shell, roll down your window and hear: "Hi Mr. Johnson. About the gas? It's too bad, but we do have a two for one deal on cigarettes if you act now.

(I thought better of writing some Bush/button graf. See? I'm not a monster).

Do you ever think about the end times? Do you think there is really even going to be an end times? If so, do you think it will happen in your lifetime? Or if after that - how far ahead?

And if you do.... do you attribute it to the secular misdeeds of mankind, or a religious foretelling?
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Sandman on October 02, 2005, 10:59:04 PM
Ya know... we've been foretelling the end of the world for as long as we've had a means to communicate.

Hell... the New Testament hit the street some 75 years after JC did his thing on the post and that little tale foretells the end of everything.

Every religion has a creation myth and a destruction myth.

Do I think it's coming anytime soon? I doubt it. I think life is going to get increasingly difficult for our ancestors. I think overcrowding and starvation will be the kicker. If we're lucky, we'll get hit by Dottie before any of that takes place.

And no, I won't attribute the end of the human race to "intelligent design". ;)
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Sandman on October 02, 2005, 11:09:49 PM
Oh... and one last thing...

I've spent more time thinking about my own end than I have the end of the world.

I sometimes wonder what it'll be like. My fear of dying is centered around my family. I have an obligation to them. Other than that, I'm curious. I've suffered a couple of concussions and getting knocked out is rather strange. It's a completely different experience than dreaming. I wonder if death will be like that.

Oh sure... I can hope that I'll become some fantastic creature of pure energy, but I highly doubt it. I think it'll be lights out, party's over.


... but I hope it's more exciting than that.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: moot on October 03, 2005, 01:23:02 AM
I don't think you'll be doing much living or thinking once you're dead, end time or flowerpot.
Live it like you stole it.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Godzilla on October 03, 2005, 01:50:22 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Oh... and one last thing...

I've spent more time thinking about my own end than I have the end of the world.

I sometimes wonder what it'll be like. My fear of dying is centered around my family. I have an obligation to them. Other than that, I'm curious. I've suffered a couple of concussions and getting knocked out is rather strange. It's a completely different experience than dreaming. I wonder if death will be like that.

Oh sure... I can hope that I'll become some fantastic creature of pure energy, but I highly doubt it. I think it'll be lights out, party's over.


... but I hope it's more exciting than that.


Maybe I'm ignorant, but I believe that deep down every human has a primitave, basic understanding that death is probably not the end of us.

I don't know, maybe some people are not curious enough to think about the universe, life and death....but myself, I think those are very interesting things to think about.

I'm not materialistic at all. I believe that being happy and doing what one feels is  right is the proper approach to life. I feel there is something more to existance than just our lives here on earth.

I'm no saint by any means though.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 03, 2005, 02:22:54 AM
If the human kind ceases to exist, it will be the end of our perceivable world. Even if that happens, the world is still there and so are we, in a slightly translated form.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Vulcan on October 03, 2005, 03:43:51 AM
My only wish is that we have a least 24 hours warning so we can ALL GET TOTAL DRUNK AND NAKED!


Woohoooooooooooooooo!
Title: The End Times...
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 03, 2005, 05:01:15 AM
Bah it takes four to seven days to get PROPERLY drunk. Talking about .4 level or more. :D
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Hangtime on October 03, 2005, 05:47:43 AM
(http://www.hi.is/~hh/kennsla/tfr2/v03/slotmachine.jpg)

Yah pays yer money, yah takes yer chance.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: lazs2 on October 03, 2005, 08:02:02 AM
You mean what will happen if things get tougher?

probly the loafer wearing taxi riders will have more to worry about than being everyones nanny...  People will have to mind their own business.

as for personal ends... why is it that all the socialists are so worried about their own little lives and are positive that dieing will be not only the end of everything for them but some huge loss to those around them?

lazs
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Ripsnort on October 03, 2005, 08:06:25 AM
About the only time I think about "end time" is when I'm flying...then I begin feeling sorry for the cute women that are sitting near me because I know that if it is inevitable that the plane is gonna crash, that they're going to get groped something fierce by me. :D
Title: The End Times...
Post by: midnight Target on October 03, 2005, 08:08:06 AM
Don't worry lazs.... we'll miss you when you go too.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: lazs2 on October 03, 2005, 08:54:54 AM
miss me or not... it is for you to decide not me.  If we stay alive in peoples thoughts after we die then we have done something for them... that's fine but no big deal.  

you can't let the death of a person ruin your life... Only a very selfish or arrogant person would think that is desirable.

In sandies case... he probly has plenty of insurance... his family will be as well off or better off... they will probly have new opportunities opened up to them by his death.   There will be change.... some probly very good.

why sweat it?

lazs
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Nash on October 03, 2005, 09:00:47 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
"probly the loafer wearing taxi riders...." lazs


Do they even sell loafers anymore? I said "end times," not "olden times."
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Charon on October 03, 2005, 09:07:54 AM
The end of times (for us at least) is only one appropriately sized iron meteorite away. Maybe tomorrow maybe in millions of years -- but it will arrive.

The irony is that we could potentially save the species without even making a huge GDP investment, but we're not making that investment.

Charon
Title: The End Times...
Post by: lazs2 on October 03, 2005, 09:13:38 AM
whatever shoes you think will look good on the sidewalk and impress other denizens of the city nash.  I know how important shoes are to you city boys and girls.  something to talk about or judge a person by...

lazs
Title: The End Times...
Post by: FiLtH on October 03, 2005, 09:59:06 AM
Ripley is right.We will always be here. "You have always been the caretaker Mr.Torrence."

  But instead of being man, our mass maybe converted into a rock. Or if we are lucky we get mixed up in water and feed a future tree.

   I think when it happens it will be rather surprising, as far as the violence, and speed in which it happens.  If Yellowstone suddenly erupted, it would just be a natural part of things. The planet would have no remorse. It just happens. And we are in the way.Same if a large meteor hit. Given enough time, anything can happen. I just hope its quick. I dont want to live in any other kind of world.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Sandman on October 03, 2005, 10:08:23 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
In sandies case... he probly has plenty of insurance... his family will be as well off or better off... they will probly have new opportunities opened up to them by his death.   There will be change.... some probly very good.

why sweat it?
 


We're raised to be responsible adults. It comes with the territory. Maybe it's arrogance to think that my influence on my immediate family doesn't end with my paycheck.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Gh0stFT on October 03, 2005, 10:08:24 AM
it all depends from the point of view.
The Universe is sooo big, who out there in the milkyway
alone would really care if we humans stop to exist ?
does it play any matter if we exist or not? i doub it.

billions & billions of humans allready died since humanrace exist.
Like Sandman said, i think it'll be lights out, party's over.

Ask yourself where was you 2000 years ago? or the last
200 billions years ago?
you never know because you didnt existet, that the
same thing when you die. the next 2000 years and
the next 200 billions years...
To be dead dont hurt, at least it didnt hurt before ;)

thats why we should love & enjoy the given gift "our life".
dont lose it, itl be over, forever.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Yeager on October 03, 2005, 11:42:40 AM
Sand, when you die you will return to the state you were in before you were conceived. You will simply cease to exist.

The reality is that when we die as individuals, the universe ends.
Title: SO LONG AND THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH!!!
Post by: Reschke on October 03, 2005, 11:51:10 AM
I don't think we will have much warning at all. You may get some drunk running around screaming the end is coming but if you do get some warning just cover your bases and be ready for the big bang. Because I think once it starts its going to be over really fast.

BTW I just saw Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy this past week and it was one of the stupidest movies I have seen in a long time....I thought it was funny but overall rather stupid.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: BluKitty on October 03, 2005, 12:24:57 PM
I'm glad too see some more money speant on Nasa and further moon missions et cetra.......
We don't need to be tied to this wonderful little rock we call Earth forever..... we just have to use our heads.... and spend lifetimes of effort.

But we can move beyond being mortally tied to earth as well as furthering protection from the inevitable asteriod.... sure it's not going to happen tommow or likely in 100 generations.... It doesn't mean that we stop exploreing .. stop pushing the boundries.... otherwise we don't complete lifes contract, to expand, explore and spread life.  We humans are the seed of this planet.  Birds just couldn't fly high enough :D
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Skuzzy on October 03, 2005, 02:56:55 PM
There are several things which oculd end our little journey.

1)  Hit by another body drifting around in space.  This is a crap shoot, but could happen.

2)  The more likely scenario is the departure of the Moon from its orbit of Earth.  It will happen and is happening now.  The Moon does more than cause the tides to come to and fro.
It stabilizes Earth's rotation.  Without it, the Earth would rotate much like Mars (and several other planets in the solar system), all about a variable axis.  SOme months the current Poles would be 90 degrees from thier rotation, other times, -90 degrees, and still other times 180 degrees out of current rotation phase.
A tipsy, out of balance, top is what it amounts to.

Nothing will stop this, short of another disaster bringing about the end of Earth.

The end brought about from the Moon's departure would be fairly slow for mankind, but no one would survive.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Yeager on October 03, 2005, 03:19:01 PM
Our NASA mission!  to send giant booster rockets to the Dark side of the Moon and then to shoot them at just the right amount of thrust in just the perfect direction for precisely the perfect amount of time!  Only then will we avert global catastrophy!
Title: Re: The End Times...
Post by: Rude on October 03, 2005, 04:28:10 PM
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Originally posted by Nash
Okay...

Some horrific catastrophe.... and the world goes lights out. Goodnight John, goodnight Suzie.

I don't really give it much thought.... although there was this one day about a year ago when I walked by one of those newspaper boxes, misread a headline, and it was like "OMG that's it. It's all over."

So.... but...  what?... Maybe it's robots gettin' wise, demanding higher pay and shorter hours, and ultimately sayin' ta hell with tha man and deciding to mow everyone down with laser beams.

Or the environment becomes the earth-sized equivalent of some pimply faced teenager's bedroom.... and Mother Nature decides to discipline us with like, the ultimate rolling pin of you're-so-grounded and ps. here's like, a huge flood.

Or a butterfly flaps its wings in Tokyo, someone gets distracted -  drops a coupla yen - and by the time the stock markets re-open on the East coast everyone's suddenly without electricity and you're no longer on speakin' terms with your ATM.

Or the sun is coming up, you're on your daily commute to work, feeling the good vibes coming from your Eric Clapton CD as you pull into the Shell, roll down your window and hear: "Hi Mr. Johnson. About the gas? It's too bad, but we do have a two for one deal on cigarettes if you act now.

(I thought better of writing some Bush/button graf. See? I'm not a monster).

Do you ever think about the end times? Do you think there is really even going to be an end times? If so, do you think it will happen in your lifetime? Or if after that - how far ahead?

And if you do.... do you attribute it to the secular misdeeds of mankind, or a religious foretelling?


Not too pallitable for non-believers, but I believe in the bible as God's written word. Won't be pretty.
Title: Re: Re: The End Times...
Post by: Pooh21 on October 03, 2005, 04:37:07 PM
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Originally posted by Rude
Not too pallitable for non-believers, but I believe in the bible as God's written word. Won't be pretty.


Still would be amusing to see the average shrill whiny atheist, squealing like a pig " I dont believe!" When the Four Horsemen come galloping in the sky over the horizon.


Still think it is a meteor that will do it.
Or in some freak turn of events Boroda becoming Russias PM, then hitting the button as the ultimate O'club debate winner.


As long as I have enough time to say goodbye to my family, access to a Catholic priest fer confession, a bottle of rum, and Angelina Jolie, all close at hand, I will be very happy when it happens
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Gunthr on October 03, 2005, 08:01:30 PM
I think its possible to have an end to everything as we know it, although a total extinction of humans seems far fetched...

I'm thinking about things like the decreasing effectiveness of antibiotics - fewer and fewer left in our tool box due to resistence devoloping in various infectious bacterium.  More than that, the swift mutation of viruses these days... flesh eating necrosis, immune sytem attacks, hemmoragic internal bleeding from a hundred different places in the body, all spread by various animals, birds and human activity.  (Seems like a lot of it originates in Africa???)  We've had plagues before that decimated a good percentage of the world's population.

Animal populations that reproduce to the point of cramping themselves have historically secumbed to some mechanism that drastically reduces thier numbers... maybe even nuclear war.   I sometimes wonder if religeous predictions of endtimes refers to this kind of thing.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: storch on October 03, 2005, 10:17:06 PM
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Originally posted by Gunthr
I think its possible to have an end to everything as we know it, although a total extinction of humans seems far fetched...

I'm thinking about things like the decreasing effectiveness of antibiotics - fewer and fewer left in our tool box due to resistence devoloping in various infectious bacterium.  More than that, the swift mutation of viruses these days... flesh eating necrosis, immune sytem attacks, hemmoragic internal bleeding from a hundred different places in the body, all spread by various animals, birds and human activity.  (Seems like a lot of it originates in Africa???)  We've had plagues before that decimated a good percentage of the world's population.

Animal populations that reproduce to the point of cramping themselves have historically secumbed to some mechanism that drastically reduces thier numbers... maybe even nuclear war.   I sometimes wonder if religeous predictions of endtimes refers to this kind of thing.
as recently as 1918 when a global outbreak of influenza was estimated to have claimed more lives than the 1914-18 conflict did.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Toad on October 03, 2005, 11:00:38 PM
On this astral plane, the "end of times" is when your particular ticket gets punched. After that it's some "new time". It may be a new time with a conscious existence for you or it may just be "Boom, boom boom.. out go the lights" depending on which or how many of the various theories are actually correct.

Now, whether or not your ticket gets punched simultaneously with the other ~6.5 billion passengers on Spaceship Earth really doesn't matter, does it?

I mean, if your ticket gets punched, how worried are you going to be after that no matter what, if anything, comes next?

So... do I worry about it? Nope. Most likely I'll get my ticket punched long before humankind gets waxed in toto. So you guys will just have to muddle along anyway. I'm out of the game.

If by chance we all go poof... we're all out of the game.

No worries, mate.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 03, 2005, 11:07:06 PM
It's very hard to predict the outcome of the future when people are concerned.

Who would have thought that the century which gave us the worst wars, the most devestating weapons and some of worst global disease pandemics would also give us the greatest explosion in global knowledge, wealth, quality of life, life expextancy and population in some 2000 years.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Sandman on October 03, 2005, 11:25:14 PM
I'm tired so I'm probably a bit slow... Sentucy?
Title: The End Times...
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 03, 2005, 11:26:40 PM
And I'm a bit retarded - the word is century...

:D
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Sandman on October 03, 2005, 11:28:39 PM
Doh... I'm going to bed. I should have seen that.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 03, 2005, 11:38:28 PM
If the end comes, the first thing I am going to do is get on this BBS and post my thoughts about it.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Hangtime on October 03, 2005, 11:46:51 PM
Yup.



Wheeelp, here's ta hopin there's enuff time ta say 'Told yah!' before the big finish.

Cheers!
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Toad on October 03, 2005, 11:47:24 PM
Jeebus, Holden.. that's leaving things a bit late, innit?

Go ahead.. post now and then you can spend your final minutes on something you'll enjoy a lot more.

:)
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 03, 2005, 11:55:05 PM
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originally posted by Toad
Jeebus, Holden.. that's leaving things a bit late, innit?


Well, if I had any warning, my post would be about group sex while skydiving over Tahiti.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Toad on October 03, 2005, 11:56:29 PM
At 32 fps/ps it's going to be a short session no matter how high up you start..

Oh, wait... you must be figuring on using the chutes early....
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Hangtime on October 04, 2005, 12:34:15 AM
"when you see the flash, pull on THIS."
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Geary420 on October 04, 2005, 06:08:08 AM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Bah it takes four to seven days to get PROPERLY drunk. Talking about .4 level or more. :D


Apparently you weren't at Oktoberfest with us on Sat. Night :)  But then again maybe you were... Do you know by chance what I did to get those Mardi Gras beads???
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Rolex on October 04, 2005, 06:37:51 AM
A university president was starting to nod off as he sat through a speech by an astromoner. The astronomer was going through the timeline for our sun - the ordinary star that gives us life. He said that even if we don't kill ourselves off, the sun will, when it begins to die in about 5 billion years.

The president bolted upright and said, "What did you say? When will this happen?"

"In about 5 billion years from now," the astronomer answered.

"Oh, thank God," the president said, "I thought you said 5 million years..."
Title: The End Times...
Post by: lazs2 on October 04, 2005, 08:28:19 AM
do you guys really worry about this stuff?   Must be nice to have room to worry about the end of the world.

How bout you worry about that cholesterol or diabetes or that history of cancer in your family?

lazs
Title: The End Times...
Post by: john9001 on October 04, 2005, 10:46:02 AM
What? me worry?
Title: The End Times...
Post by: boxboy28 on October 04, 2005, 11:50:35 AM
Fun stupid rant!  or is it............


As far as an astroid, comet other heavenly body,  we wont all parish!  Too many  people aleady living under ground + all the safe havens for the gov.s of the worlds figure heads.  

Scary thought only they survive! whos gonna fight for them then?

Someday (LOL hopefully soon) i too will burrow in and buils my own little castle under the earths crust. Hermetically seals doors and window with a air purifying system and blast covers for each link to the out side world. A

After the blinding flash ans seering heat is gone ill go out and pick up all the cooked animal remains and put them in my natural earthen celler/freezer/cooler/  and have pleanty to ride it out.  Not to mention the pure deel well water from under the earthes crust.


But if we fall into the sun or it explodes  we all gonna get cooked eventually.



LOL OK  stupid rant off.:noid
Title: The End Times...
Post by: GreenCloud on October 04, 2005, 01:00:57 PM
i hope to see some looters

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/842_1128448794_shorty.jpg)
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Toad on October 04, 2005, 02:52:43 PM
BGB, you look a whole lot better than I ever suspected.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Seagoon on October 04, 2005, 04:25:56 PM
Hi Gents,

Figures this would be the first thread I'd post in after coming back from vacation, eh?

Looks like I'm one of the few members of the board not worrying about the end of the world (quite looking forward to it actually).

And no, I don't believe the world will end via a meteor, a plague, a nuclear, chemical, or biological exchange, or with apologies to the late Douglas Adams, the "coming of the great white handkerchief."

Rather, I believe that the Second Coming of Christ will be the end of what Paul called "this present evil age," and that following the final judgment there will be "a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away" where death, corruption, tears, sorrow and all the consequences of sin will no longer have any place.

Incidentally, the very fact that the world hasn't already ended via any of the apocalyptic scenarios already mentioned (particularly nuclear exchange) always seemed to me to be a great evidence of the hand of Divine Providence at work in history.

Does anyone really think that the reason Kruschev blinked and that the Indians and Pakistanis, Israelis and Arabs, haven't lobbed nukes at one another is due to the common sense and innate goodwill of man?
Title: The End Times...
Post by: midnight Target on October 04, 2005, 04:41:58 PM
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Does anyone really think that the reason Kruschev blinked and that the Indians and Pakistanis, Israelis and Arabs, haven't lobbed nukes at one another is due to the common sense and innate goodwill of man?


So our only two choices are "innate goodwill" or "divine intervention"?

Kinda stacking the deck there aintcha?
Title: The End Times...
Post by: boxboy28 on October 04, 2005, 05:11:52 PM
Seagoon, i respect you very much, its not always god will.  Its Mostly FEAR OF GOD  that stops you , i , them , isreali, Pakastani, Indiani, Ameriacn, Russian  and all the other "I and AN's"   from sending any any where.  
Nuclear weapons have always been a weapon of deturance.   Not of 1st strike.
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Pooh21 on October 04, 2005, 05:20:25 PM
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Originally posted by Geary420
Apparently you weren't at Oktoberfest with us on Sat. Night :)  But then again maybe you were... Do you know by chance what I did to get those Mardi Gras beads???
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Gunthr on October 04, 2005, 06:47:54 PM
Seagoon,

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Does anyone really think that the reason Kruschev blinked and that the Indians and Pakistanis, Israelis and Arabs, haven't lobbed nukes at one another is due to the common sense and innate goodwill of man? - SG



__________________

It doesn't necessarily follow that it is the hand of God.  God has allowed all kinds of awful things to happen.  God has already allowed huge decimations of populations, so why wouldn't he allow a nuclear war?  Are you suggesting that God is waiting for something to happen before the end of the world can begin?
Title: The End Times...
Post by: Hangtime on October 04, 2005, 07:13:12 PM
*warning!!* (flings arms in air) *danger!!*