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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: easymo on September 21, 2001, 06:26:00 PM
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I was just channel serfing. Looking for news. I happen to land on MTV. Some "artist" we singing a retreaded version of, Whats Going On. A blatantly, anti war protest song, from the bad old days. For the first time since this started, I feel discouraged.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
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I believe Bono of U2 re-recorded "What's Going On?".
Their initial intention was to release the song to raise funds for the fight against aids.
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No. This was a collection of people.
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Originally posted by easymo:
I was just channel serfing. Looking for news. I happen to land on MTV. Some "artist" we singing a retreaded version of, Whats Going On. A blatantly, anti war protest song, from the bad old days. For the first time since this started, I feel discouraged.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
Oh do you? Gee that's tragic...
War is bad, man. Who cares if someone's singing an anti-war song? It certainly echoes my sentiments. Right now I have a friend seriously considering naval service, in part ot avoid being drafted into the ground forces in case it ever comes to that.
These are scary times, and there's a lot hanging in the balance. War would upset that balance.
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Hey! ispar. diddly off.
Over looking the obvious insult to the United States Navy, for a moment. Your friends attempt at cowardice makes no sense in the face of what happend aboard the USS Cole.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
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Originally posted by easymo:
No. This was a collection of people.
I believe Bono was the producer and yes, it was a group of artists.
http://www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2001/09/20/bono/index.html (http://www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2001/09/20/bono/index.html)
Oh... and Easymo, I know quite a few people that I served with in the Navy that joined during the Vietnam war rather than take the chance at being drafted by the Army. No doubt about it, our life expectancy at sea is better than that of the guy in the trenches.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Sandman_SBM ]
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Got Easymo's back on this one.
"War is bad" indeed. So is having ten thousand civialians murdered Ispar. What course of action would you suggest? Holding hands and singing?
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MTV is the poison of my generation.
It has drained most from spirituality and individuality, turning them into drones who must follow the "cool" herd. Removing what makes them individuals, and turning them into customers.
Welcome to my pitiful generation. Most of you are lucky to not have lived it. Sometimes I put MTV, and I can only feel sadness at the emptyness of their faces.
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Continuing my earlier post...
It's a different man that can look another in the eye and kill him. Not every man is up to this one grisly task but many can serve the interests of this country and the military. It's not cowardice to be aware of your limitations.
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That brought a tear to my eye, Animal. It really did. ;)
Welcome to my pitiful generation... Sometimes I put MTV, and I can only feel sadness at the emptyness of their faces.
You are taking the piss, surely?
You heard it here first - MTV is the root of all evil! Destroy that heinous soul corrupting influence!
'What's going on' is an excellent tune by the way. The new version isn't too rough either.
On a side note, what's with the melodramatic, sound-bite ridden crap posted on these boards recently? It's like a think tank for some league of two-bit journalists.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Dowding ]
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Originally posted by Animal:
MTV is the poison of my generation.
It has drained most from spirituality and individuality, turning them into drones who must follow the "cool" herd. Removing what makes them individuals, and turning them into customers.
Welcome to my pitiful generation. Most of you are lucky to not have lived it. Sometimes I put MTV, and I can only feel sadness at the emptyness of their faces.
this one sees the light. exhalt and annoint him ;)
in fact it's the first semi-legible thing animal has ever said other than the fact that he's attracted to ricky martin in a way that 'hurts' (in his language).
i remember when mtv played music videos.
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Dowding,
hehe, of course. you have no idea what i'm talking about :)
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Animal ]
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Shut yer gahddamn, traps ladies! Save it for the Naz...er terrorists. The one I love is "Take your anger and focus it". I work in tech support, should I focus it on the clients? Might get me fired. May relieve some stress though. Can I focus it on my cat? Wife won't like that.
For the record easymo, litte of this applies to you, or anyone else that has or is serving in their countries military. You've "been there, done that". I suppose I'm getting sick of geeks that are going to be sitting on the chesterfield, watching the conflict on CNN, try and sound like a Regimental Sgt. Major, or some toejam.
When it comes to meaningless, patriotic slogans, I'm not a huge fan.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Thrawn ]
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Draft...??? That reminds me of J Candy in Stripes saying he enlisted to avoid the draft...!! ROTFL!! Jesus... I hope they give him a broom and MAYBE a floor buffer.
xBAT
Draft...LOL Good Lordy... I think I almost pissed myself.
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Originally posted by easymo:
Hey! ispar. diddly off.
Over looking the obvious insult to the United States Navy, for a moment. Your friends attempt at cowardice makes no sense in the face of what happend aboard the USS Cole.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
Nope, but then it isn't exactly cowardice. He simply doesn't want to serve in the ground troops. I think that the fact that one of the positions he is interested in is the emergency personnel on board ship speaks for itself about his "cowardice." The other two? Technician or pilot. He has the brains, and he has the balls for either. I suggest you do not slander my friends before you really understand their motivations.
Avoiding Army service is hardly cowardice. If he were a coward, he would run away to Canada, wouldn't he? Of course, not all those who run to Canada are cowards, but that's a different argument. He wants to serve; he wants to help. He doesn't want to serve in the Army. Simple as that.
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There was never a doubt that the citizenry would divide on this issue. This is the USA, after all. Check the news from Berkley and Cambridge; the same gardens are growing the same crops that they did in the 60's and early 70's.
The difference is that this time the enemy is here among us.
Instead of watching newsreels from 10,000 miles away, the smoke, fire and stench of death will be in their own neighboorhoods eventually. You know they're talking about the smell in New York right now. You think that's from flowers? Or is it from 6000 decaying bodies?
This is the beginning, not the end. Get used to the Berkley crowd. They'll be there every step of the way until we win. When we do, they'll then be the ones feeling morally superior for not participating.
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Toad, I say draft their posteriers!! No student exemptions this time around. Fairness to all :) We don't want to start any profiling,right? Draft all three sexes :)
We need people to clean the latrines!! Besides the Army will finally teach them to read :)
They are nothing more then a bunch of Munchkin poop eaters!!!
[ 09-22-2001: Message edited by: 1776 ]
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Originally posted by ispar:
Nope, but then it isn't exactly cowardice. He simply doesn't want to serve in the ground troops. I think that the fact that one of the positions he is interested in is the emergency personnel on board ship speaks for itself about his "cowardice."
By "emergency personnel" I take it you mean he wants to be a medic on ships. If that's the case, let me help you clue him in on one thing the recruiters might fail to mention. Only a small percentage of Navy hospital corpsman actually go to ships. Where do the rest go??? Marine Corps infantry units. ;)
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Originally posted by Sancho:
By "emergency personnel" I take it you mean he wants to be a medic on ships. If that's the case, let me help you clue him in on one thing the recruiters might fail to mention. Only a small percentage of Navy hospital corpsman actually go to ships. Where do the rest go??? Marine Corps infantry units. ;)
No, I mean Damage Control and boarding personnel. Hell of a tough job, too.