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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: AutoPilot on October 05, 2005, 02:31:49 PM
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How about adding an option for Napalm.
It was used in late war but still would be cool.
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I dont think fire is useful enough in a world where you need 1000 pounders to take anything down worth killing...
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Napalm can be alot more useful against tanks than bombs, not to mention using it against buildings at a town.
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How does napalm count as a P-38 add on?
It was mostly used, during WWII, by F4Us and F6Fs as I recall, with some use by Typhoons as well.
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Don't forget the mossies of 100 Group, Karnak.
:D
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I was not aware that the Mossies of 100 Group used napalm.
Can you tell me some about their use of it?
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Heya:
I think beginning in March '45, the NF.30s (and, IIRC, the FB.VIs of 23 Sqn and 515 Sqn) of 100 Group Bomber Command began to carry napalm in the 100-gallon droptanks. The raids were all concentrated on LW airfields.
The ops were referred to as "Firebash" - apparently the idea came up in a conversation between W/C Winn and an American officer who happened to share a train compartment!
There are some good descriptions of the raids in "Confounding the Reich".
Cheers,
Scherf
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Yes, that matches what I just looked up in my books, although I didn't have the names of the RAF and USAAF officers involved the train compartment matches. My book says the first use of napalm by 100 group was on 18 August, 1945 and napalm is only mentioned a few times on the one page of the book. It is interesting, but more of a footnote really.
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How does napalm count as a P-38 add on?
P-38s used it pretty heavily during the Philippines campaign with their extra large drop tanks, as I recall. Used it in other PTO areas of operations such as Indonesia during the same period.
During the spring of 1945, the 49th Fighter Group occupied Clark Field and were concentrating on providing ground support roles. They were particularly effective in delivering napalm bombs which devastated enemy installations, which made an invasion of the Luzon unnecessary.
Apparently they used in in Europe as well, starting in 1944 at St Lo.
Charon
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Originally posted by Charon
P-38s used it pretty heavily during the Philippines campaign with their extra large drop tanks, as I recall. Used it in other PTO areas of operations such as Indonesia during the same period.
That still doesn't make it a P-38 addon. A P-38 addon, and what I was expecting to see in the thread, would be something like the gun pods. Something specific to the P-38. Not something that the F4U, F6F, Mossie, P-38 and Typhoon all used. This would be better titled as "Can we have napalm please?"
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so we gonna need bambo villages and paper japanisee towns too?
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Napalm should be EXCEPTIONALLY effective on open top GV's, the rest it would take time to cook.
I agree, napalm ain't just for P-38's.
I would like to see 2K bombs added, and the P-38 could take two of them. I think the P-47 and the F4U could as well.
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It wouldn't matter if the vehicle were open topped or not. WWII tanks were not sealed, so all the air would get sucked out and some fire would get in regardless.
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Agreed, but a nice coating of napalm would make VERY quick work of the guys in the open areas of M-3's, M-8's, M-16's, and Osti's.
Buttoned up tanks might actually survive if they weren't in the middle of the burn pattern and thoroughly covered, but rather were on the edge and got splashed.
Even a half decent SPLASH of napalm on an open vehicle will cover the occupants, regardless of whether it uses up the oxygen. Get SOME on a buttoned up enclosed vehicle and if it didn't cause something to cook off, it might not knock it out.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Napalm should be EXCEPTIONALLY effective on open top GV's, the rest it would take time to cook.
I agree, napalm ain't just for P-38's.
I would like to see 2K bombs added, and the P-38 could take two of them. I think the P-47 and the F4U could as well.
Have you ever tried to get a P47 off the ground with 2 thousand pounders and a centerline 500 - let alone 2 two thousand pounders, rockets and a center bomb. It makes a pregnant yak look slim.
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Have you ever tried to get a P47 off the ground with 2 thousand pounders and a centerline 500 - let alone 2 two thousand pounders, rockets and a center bomb. It makes a pregnant yak look slim.
As a matter of fact, I have the P-47D-40 set up with the full load of ordnance, maximum ammo, and 75% fuel as one of my two standard attack planes. I very rarely take less. I take the P-38L-5-Lo with 50% fuel, full ammo, 2 1K bombs and 10 rockets as well.
You have to choose the runway carefully with the P-47, and you have to watch your fuel, as it sucks it down rapidly, but I do okay in it. If the trip is long or the area busy, I take the P-38L for range and climb.
Off a CV, I take the full ordnance and ammo on the F4U of my choice as well, with 50%, sometimes 75%. I find the F4U-4 gets off the CV easier, but I like the C Hog guns a lot (my gunnery sucks, Delirium got a bunch of kills finishing off guys I was setting up on but not killing tonight, LOL). I'm not sure you could get the F4U off a CV with 2 2K bombs, that'd be tough. The F4U-4 might do it with 50% fuel.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Napalm should be EXCEPTIONALLY effective on open top GV's, the rest it would take time to cook.
for open gv's short burst of .303 should be enough, richochets should melt crew for salad
but not in AH ;)
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Napalm is not nice. There are many people who are offended by its use. It may be banned by some countries and cultures. So we should not use it ,it is just not nice...
LOL
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Originally posted by Nosara
Napalm is not nice. There are many people who are offended by its use. It may be banned by some countries and cultures. So we should not use it ,it is just not nice...
LOL
Napalm, fun for the whole communist family!