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Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Charon on October 06, 2005, 03:29:32 PM
Excellent coverage of the whole USS Iowa / San Francisco issue here:  USS Iowa (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml) . When at the page, click on the image that reads "Say No Moor"

Charon
Title: Re: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 06, 2005, 03:47:35 PM
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Originally posted by Charon
When at the page, click on the image that reads "Say No Moor"


You would think the politically correct San Francisans would be careful of any prejudice against moors.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Mickey1992 on October 06, 2005, 03:48:13 PM
I saw that last night.  That was hillarious.  If that .... that ..... that .... FREAK were my representative I would move out of his/her/its district pronto.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on October 06, 2005, 04:19:02 PM
I laughed.  And I felt sad that such people can actually get elected to public office.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: GtoRA2 on October 06, 2005, 04:25:59 PM
If that freak show was the real tom ammiano, it is no wonder the city of SF is a dirty digusting **** hole.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Wolfala on October 06, 2005, 04:30:18 PM
The dude crowd surfing gets the brass balls award.

And yea, the other guy needs to jump off a cliff.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 06, 2005, 05:35:33 PM
Hilarious.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: ASTAC on October 06, 2005, 05:46:24 PM
San Fransisco = Unpatriotic ghey Capital of the country..the whole city could drop off the face of the earth and I wouldn't shed a tear..it's sad that the cities that deserve a good disaster don't get one.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Sandman on October 06, 2005, 06:15:05 PM
So... are homosexuality and patriotism mutually exclusive?
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Pooh21 on October 06, 2005, 06:20:47 PM
San Frans brand of gheyness is. Did you hear that freak talk?
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Godzilla on October 06, 2005, 06:26:39 PM
LOL!

I wonder if that Tom Ammiano freak would turn down all millitary assistance in a time of need.

People like that just need to be put down.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Charon on October 06, 2005, 07:33:17 PM
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So... are homosexuality and patriotism mutually exclusive?


Absolutely not. In fact, many have served in the military and in government agencies. I have no doubt there are many, many straight residents in his district who have the exact same viewpoints on the issue. Says more about the city than gays in general. Gays have little choice but to be liberal leaning socially these days, but that guy's far to the left of Nader. My lesbian sister in law would have no problem busting on the guy.

Come on man. The guy is a clown - a clown that got votes, got elected  and has some power. Frankly, his flamboyance is one of his more redeeming features since it distracts from his obvious lack of reasoning skills and critical thought  :) And that is exactly why, for the reasons he stated, USS Iowa was denied a home in S. F .

Charon
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 06, 2005, 07:52:39 PM
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Originally posted by Charon
 Absolutely not. In fact, many have served in the military and in government agencies. I have no doubt there are many, many straight residents in his district who have the exact same viewpoints on the issue. Says more about the city than gays in general. Gays have little choice but to be liberal leaning socially these days, but that guy's to the left of Nader. My lesbian sister in law would have no problem busting on the guy.

Come on man. The guy is a clown - a clown that got votes, got elected  and has some power. Frankly, his flamboyance is one of his more redeeming features since it distracts from his obvious lack of reasoning skills and critical thought  :) And he is exactly why, in no uncertain terms, USS Iowa was denied a home in S. F. and for the reasons he stated.

Charon [/B]


Is she hot?  Pictures...
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Charon on October 06, 2005, 08:06:18 PM
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Is she hot? Pictures...


You don't want to go there :) There are the movies, then there's real life. She is one of the brightest people I know, and a fine writer who has published a few pieces in the Tribune including a good one on Kurt Cobain.

Charon
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: ramzey on October 06, 2005, 08:10:32 PM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
San Fransisco = Unpatriotic ghey Capital of the country..the whole city could drop off the face of the earth and I wouldn't shed a tear..it's sad that the cities that deserve a good disaster don't get one.


how you dare!!!!!!!
do you think your fears against homosexuals are patriotic?
all this hate you carry inside is patriotic too?

you are just miserable person ready to blow up another federal building  beucose of fake racist and hate

i wish you to sink in your own pisses
and me and my sisters will watch it!

 (http://www.pinette.net/chris/flags/gay/gay-rnbw.gif)
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Chairboy on October 06, 2005, 08:22:31 PM
Joke all you want, but equating homosexuality with being unpatriotic is asinine.  Grow up.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: ASTAC on October 06, 2005, 08:40:15 PM
You dumbarses...I wasn't saying it was the gheys that were unpatriotic..I was saying the city in general..maybe I typed it wrong and it sounded that way....and I think that my arguement that it is the ghey capital of the US would be hard to go against..well Key West runs a close 2nd...lighten up guys..

Oh and Ramzey, I don't "hate" anybody..well except for alot of the worthless scum currently running our Government on both sides of the aisle.

Live and let live I say. Though I will admit that I have my own reasons for not agreeing with that lifestyle.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: midnight Target on October 06, 2005, 08:46:53 PM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
San Fransisco = Unpatriotic ghey Capital of the country..the whole city could drop off the face of the earth and I wouldn't shed a tear..it's sad that the cities that deserve a good disaster don't get one.


Funny, last time I was there I visited a WW2 era sub and the last surviving Liberty ship... both on fisherman's warf.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Gunslinger on October 06, 2005, 10:18:11 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Joke all you want, but equating homosexuality with being unpatriotic is asinine.  Grow up.


Rant all you want.....but to think anyone is actually equating homosexuality with being unpatriotic is asnine.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Gunslinger on October 06, 2005, 10:19:05 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Funny, last time I was there I visited a WW2 era sub and the last surviving Liberty ship... both on fisherman's warf.


yea then why don't they want the Iowa after spending millions of dollars to get it there?
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 06, 2005, 10:22:46 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Funny, last time I was there I visited a WW2 era sub and the last surviving Liberty ship... both on fisherman's warf.


Those were put in place before the latest round of San Francisco insanity like their current attempt to outlaw gunstores and handguns in the city.

What's clear now is that the city leaders voted to ban the USS Iowa from display in the city.  Thats where we stand today.

Now I have no idea if that was actually the real SF city councilman Tom Ammiano saying those things (though it sure looked and sounded like him)  in the Jon Stewart interview of it was a fake or edited thing but if it is real then we have what you see.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Gaylord on October 06, 2005, 11:19:56 PM
As a San Franciscian I want to go on record right now of saying I just love the Navy, and its Sailors- especially since they started wearing those cute little bell bottom  pants again- and if the Navy and San Francisco can work this out and we should become the home port of the Iowa I will be on the pier every night to offer whatever comfort I can to the poor, lonely, homesick sailors- emotionally, spiritually and physically- until the Shore Patrol runs me off like they did in Long Beach.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: AdmRose on October 06, 2005, 11:49:39 PM
I think the only solution is to use the Iowa's guns on San Francisco. Any objections?
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Dune on October 06, 2005, 11:58:48 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Funny, last time I was there I visited a WW2 era sub and the last surviving Liberty ship... both on fisherman's warf.


Actually, I believe the Liberty ship is on the Oakland side next to the USS Hornet.

And Ammiano is a hoot.  Always has been.  In 1978 Dan White killed SF's mayor and one the supervisor's, Harvey Milk.  The infamous "Twinkie Defense" killings.  IIRC, Milk was the first openly gay supervisor SF had.  Ammiano, who is also very gay, ran as his philosophical heir and has been a fixture of SF politics for quite some time.  When I was there for law school he ran against Willie Brown for mayor.  Boy did the nastiness fly then.

They hated each other almost as much as Brown and Hallinan.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Sixpence on October 07, 2005, 12:57:46 AM
I wish they would bring it here and put it with the Massachusetts

http://www.battleshipcove.org/bb59-history.htm
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on October 07, 2005, 02:03:52 AM
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Originally posted by Gaylord
As a San Franciscian I want to go on record right now of saying I just love the Navy, and its Sailors- especially since they started wearing those cute little bell bottom  pants again- and if the Navy and San Francisco can work this out and we should become the home port of the Iowa I will be on the pier every night to offer whatever comfort I can to the poor, lonely, homesick sailors- emotionally, spiritually and physically- until the Shore Patrol runs me off like they did in Long Beach.



:huh
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Sandman on October 07, 2005, 02:10:31 AM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
You dumbarses...I wasn't saying it was the gheys that were unpatriotic..I was saying the city in general..maybe I typed it wrong and it sounded that way....and I think that my arguement that it is the ghey capital of the US would be hard to go against..well Key West runs a close 2nd...lighten up guys..

Oh and Ramzey, I don't "hate" anybody..well except for alot of the worthless scum currently running our Government on both sides of the aisle.

Live and let live I say. Though I will admit that I have my own reasons for not agreeing with that lifestyle.


I deserve some credit. That was a well played hijack IMHO. :cool:
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: midnight Target on October 07, 2005, 08:12:36 AM
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Originally posted by Dune
Actually, I believe the Liberty ship is on the Oakland side next to the USS Hornet.
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It was parked right behind the Pampanito when I was there in August. Its been there for at least a year.
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: FUNKED1 on October 07, 2005, 08:51:31 AM
San Francisco - "America's Anus"
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on October 07, 2005, 08:57:30 AM
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Originally posted by Gaylord
As a San Franciscian I want to go on record right now of saying I just love the Navy, and its Sailors- especially since they started wearing those cute little bell bottom  pants again- and if the Navy and San Francisco can work this out and we should become the home port of the Iowa I will be on the pier every night to offer whatever comfort I can to the poor, lonely, homesick sailors- emotionally, spiritually and physically- until the Shore Patrol runs me off like they did in Long Beach.


studmuffin!
-SW
Title: USS Iowa S.F Controversy
Post by: Dune on October 07, 2005, 09:23:50 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
It was parked right behind the Pampanito when I was there in August. Its been there for at least a year.


Well...it has been 4 years since I was last there and since ships do move....