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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: syncrII on October 12, 2005, 05:40:09 AM
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Moin
somethink about the donat map. she is one of the best maps i thing. but the fighter town is a litel problem for it. it tacks many aktion to this place and all other regions a realy quit. I like the maps more were the main target for all people is to hit the enemy and win the rest and not only furbaling at one place. For example i had done a ju 88 mission on sunnday, we had flow with 6 formations about 3 sectors into enemy teretory and we were untached on the complet flight to target and back home because the most people want to fight a senceles fight in fighter town. Thats not nice and it isnt god for the howl gameplay in the MA. I hope that the map creators think about this by building a new map next time. There must be a other way to rise the game fun we dont need furbalplaces we need a great war all around. the small maps are good for it. if the old smal maps were up datet with more spawnpoints i think we were on the right way.
what did you think about the situation?
cu chris3
p.s.: im sorry for my bad spelling
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ROFL.
:O :lol
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Too many ppl want to waste time in senseless fields porking & capturing. Please, disable it, we dont need porking, we need great furball all around ;)
:rofl :rofl
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that was glorious chris, nice post :aok
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makes you ask yourself : why did HT bothered with strat in the first place ! lol
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Originally posted by Noir
makes you ask yourself : why did HT bothered with strat in the first place ! lol
and i ask you is it nice that we dont have anythink realy to do against the other contry, were is the fun if we are unable to hit him hard.
i hate all the wins about porking filds, if you didnt want that your country is under attack go up and devend it but....oh that is to many work for the winers. and why we have still bombers in AH? we dont need it realy anymore.
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Originally posted by syncrII
and i ask you is it nice that we dont have anythink realy to do against the other contry, were is the fun if we are unable to hit him hard.
i hate all the wins about porking filds, if you didnt want that your country is under attack go up and devend it but....oh that is to many work for the winers. and why we have still bombers in AH? we dont need it realy anymore.
This topic is/has been posted to death.
Listen to me and listen carefully ...
Myself and many others DO NOT CARE about winning the WAR.
One more time ... Myself and many others DO NOT CARE about winning the WAR.
We just want to engage in air-to-air combat and what is so wrong with us trying to do just that ?
Why MUST we participate or be FORCED to participate in your silly WAR ?
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Go to the DA then numpty
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Originally posted by Morgorth
Go to the DA then numpty
there *are* bomber fields and plenty of sheds in the DA in a special area set aside just for buffers (and GVers for that matter). just sayin'
:aok
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Myself and many others DO NOT CARE about winning the WAR.
++++jes many but i belive not the most!!
One more time ... Myself and many others DO NOT CARE about winning the WAR.
++++jes many but not the most. the point is if i do something in my live i do it to get some succes and i belive that many others do it the same i belive that thay dont like to do something senseless.
We just want to engage in air-to-air combat and what is so wrong with us trying to do just that ?
++++nothing i do the same, the most time im in a fighter lucking for a nice fight but i always keep in mind that my fighting is needed to get my country forward, Yes it sounds silly for you but for me the succes of my country is the litel price of my fliing. the kills are not so interestening for me but working togther to reach a goal is mor funny than sensles furbaling, try it but i think you are long enough here in. on the other hand if your opinion is forced so hard she is somthing for the dueling arena and nothing for the MA were we still have a war and three countrys. in your opinion it were enough if everyone is his own country and fight against everyone or not?
Why MUST we participate or be FORCED to participate in your silly WAR ?
++++why must we participate in your furbalworld why must we banded to a world were the fliing is senseles?
keep in mind that this war here in AH is the only war in the world who is not silly because we have a big comunity and we have frinds on all sides and we are doing alot togther in your furbal world there is no place to do somthing together no missions are needed no big bombraid no sneeking noe missions no tankbadels for a town nothing like that but these thinks are part of the fun of this funny war.
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troll
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jes many but i belive not the most!!
So what !!! The "many" of us are doing what WE want to do. Just cause we may not be the MOST does not lessen what are goals are.
the kills are not so interestening for me but working togther to reach a goal is mor funny than sensles furbaling, try it but i think you are long enough here in.
Senseless ?!?!? to you maybe ... not me and the others that ENJOY that facet of the game. My goal is to engage and have the fight of my life ... sweaty palms, heart beating like mad ... and hopefully come out as the victor at the end.
syncrII ... I have been flying AH for over 4 years now. At the beginning and for two years following I was a proud member of the MAW (still am proud that I was a MAW). I have bombed/jaboed/de-acked/straffed/gooned more in the two years than most do in a lifetime playing this game. Believe me when I tell you ... I am "long enough here in".
why must we participate in your furbalworld why must we banded to a world were the fliing is senseles?
Please show me screen shots and/or post on this board where a "furballer" or "furballers" have asked the toolshed warriors to "participate in your furbalworld" ... we don't ask for participation ... you either want to do it or you don't ... just don't come pee in our pool cause we aren't paying attention to your "we must win the virtual war" crap.
Again ... you use the word "senseless". To you maybe ... to us ... its not senseless. Also, who appointed you to be the "decider" on what is and what is not "senseless". Don't be so freaking arrogant.
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Originally posted by Morgorth
Go to the DA then numpty
Why don't you take a big drink of my nose !!!
Take your "numpty" crap elsewhere.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Why don't you take a big drink of my nose !!!
ooooo burn!
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Chris...
you said you do not care to furball, nor do you want unopposed offenses.
what stops you from simply announcing your intentions to hit base XXX over Ch200? I'm sure that will create some opposition for you (unless by opposition you mean "vulchees").
by announcing your intentions to the opposing side, it forces your "mission" to be executed properly, using appropriate tactics and disciplne (excuse me while i double over with laughter here) - if the enemy wants to successfully oppose your offense, they'd need to do the same.
the fact there is a "FT" area on the map should have no bearin gon your style of game play. no one in the FT factions have ever harangued the toolshed factions to come and join the furball.
just sayin'
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Originally posted by jaxxo
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Don't think so. Looks like this guy is mostly GV guy. GV is fun sometimes but it really differs from furball.
You, guys, won't understand each other.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
... we don't ask for participation ... you either want to do it or you don't ... just don't come pee in our pool cause we aren't paying attention to your "we must win the virtual war" crap.
Exactly.
Well said, Slap.
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"it isnt god for the howl gameplay"
I agree 100%
....... troll.
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trolls
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ok, i feel a litel bit mis understod.
in the beginning i told you about the new map and the fighter area and want to explain my afraidnes that these furball places have a bad influence at the gameplay because thay dreag to many people away from the "real batelfild". Ok maybe it is a time proble because the most time im online in germany not many people are online if there are nearly 500 people are only it is at my home 5 o clock in the morning by this numbers there is no broblem im sure.
but the other thing is that i miss the old gameplay with all his tactical abilitis i cant understand why it was changed and im sad that Aces high becomes more and more stail like an egoshoter and AH was always more than that. im in now since 4-5 years and i love this game i had dreamed of a game like this since i was a child and now im afraid about the future of aces high. but in real life it is the same people want to use always the easyest way and this staile comes now step by step to AH too.
to shane nice idea with channel 200 but it is not the same.
cu chris3
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OMG the voice in my head now has a broken german accent!!!!! :O
I believe I have now lost the capability to spell certain words and basic math.
Am thinkink to bring back towns of fighter! :noid
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even though I do not fully agree here with chris, I can't see why some people mean they start to make fun of this thread by jumping on him because of of his spelling.
Myself and many others DO NOT CARE about winning the WAR.
So what? Some people do :rolleyes: And some people, including me, don't care what you do not care about, slapshot.
I wonder if those can of people is showing the same arrogance in RL, if they have one :rolleyes:
On Topic:
I don't see the whole thing to dramatic, we have plenty of maps in AH2. Each has it's own uniqe character.
regards
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Howitzer that's quite uncalled for, not only is it an attack on chris but it seems to be an attack on everybody who's german/have german accent.
Where are you from anyway considering you think your english stands out so much it gives you the right to mock anyone like this?
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Howitzer that's quite uncalled for, not only is it an attack on chris but it seems to be an attack on everybody who's german/have german accent.
Where are you from anyway considering you think your english stands out so much it gives you the right to mock anyone like this?
I dunno where he is...but if he's putting money on my Mother's nightstand then he must like a full Depends diaper and tappin' 82 year old Poon.
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so what the guy is saying is...
If you give people a chioce then.....
They won't play with him so... you have to take away all choice so that people will play the way he wants.
I've heard it before... it doesn't sound any better with a german accent.... maybe worse...
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Howitzer that's quite uncalled for, not only is it an attack on chris but it seems to be an attack on everybody who's german/have german accent.
I quite agree. For a person to post in a non native language, knowing his English spelling is not perfect which he even apologized for must be commended. Perhaps you don't like the message he is conveying but to make fun of his spelling is low.
Perhaps if he posted with a lot of l33t QUAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stuff you would find it more acceptable to you.
Aces High rules require that the postings be in English. I'm sure if he could post in German his spelling of German would be better than Howitzers.
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Originally posted by maik
even though I do not fully agree here with chris, I can't see why some people mean they start to make fun of this thread by jumping on him because of of his spelling.
So what? Some people do :rolleyes: And some people, including me, don't care what you do not care about, slapshot.
I wonder if those can of people is showing the same arrogance in RL, if they have one :rolleyes:
On Topic:
I don't see the whole thing to dramatic, we have plenty of maps in AH2. Each has it's own uniqe character.
regards
Well ... I don't care that you don't care than I don't care ... problem is ... he CARES about how I like to have fun in this game and wants to see it come to an end.
He thinks that furballin is a waste ... we'll excuse me ... It's the only part of this game that keeps bringing me back and for $14.95 a month, I am entitled to voice my opinion (just like he did) when he seeks to eliminate or trash my idea of fun.
Point here is .... you go do your thing ... WIN THE WAR ... and leave me alone to do my thing ... AIR-TO-AIR COMBAT.
Drag up every single post that I have ever put on this BBS and see if you can find a post where I ask that the "WIN THE WAR" aspect of this game be eliminated. Find a post where I say ... WINNING THE WAR is a waste of resources - we need more people furballlin'. Guess what ... you won't find a single one.
You want to WIN THE WAR ... knock yourself out.
You want to FURBALL ... knock yourself out.
If you don't want to FURBALL ... thats fine with me ... just don't mock or degrade how I want to play this game.
My opinion is not arrogance ... its a fediddlein opinion ... simple as that.
If there is any arrogance displayed in this thread its from syncrII, thinking that his beloved style of gameplay is better or more important than mine or those Euros' who choose to furball and not play "WIN THE WAR'
Tuff watermelon that things aren't going full bore in German prime time ... yet still he wants to downplay the gameplay of his fellow Europeans that do play the same time as him.
syncrII ... what you need and really want is the up and coming TOD version of this game. Until that is released ... don't try to pee in my pool and I promise I won't pee in yours.
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OK!, Not that this horse hasn't been beaten and re-beaten to death, but SLAPSHOT, If you want to Furball, and not participate in " ...your silly war..." then go to the DA. Don't make everyone who DOES want to win the war (on all sides of the map) suffer. Don't get me wrong, vulching when taking a base is a viable tactic, keeping the enemy down while taking the field. But when a furballer is at a field, and when asked to help in the taking of the field refuses, or when the furballers start crying because a bomber came and dropped the Ftr hangars (as he should when taking a field) that ruins the game for everyone, furballers and real estate takers alike.
So if it's strickly furballing you want to do...FINE...grab some of your furballing bretheren and head to the DA. This benifits both sides, you don't have to worry about the Ftr hangars being dropped, and the people who are trying to win the war don't have to hear the whining or get their prettythang shot off from lack of help.
Just my opinion, which is like an prettythang hole, everyone has one.
But lighten up on chris3, he's one of the better players and deserves more repect!
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..."Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid....", John Wayne as Sgt D.L. Stryker (Sands of Iwo Jima).
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LOL well that's funny cus I am 100% German, just born in the US. Its just a joke and not a knock on Chris there. Good lord you guys are high strung. I like fighter town but everyone is entitled to their opinion, german or not.
I'm not sure where the bashing on my spelling comes in to play, but I'm sure you have your reasons. I'm also sure that chris appreciates all the time you guys are putting in to defend him. You both should pat yourselves on the back because you are the self proclaimed liberators of AH BBS rights!!!! Wooohooo go you!
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Originally posted by NAVCAD
OK!, Not that this horse hasn't been beaten and re-beaten to death, but SLAPSHOT, If you want to Furball, and not participate in " ...your silly war..." then go to the DA. Don't make everyone who DOES want to win the war (on all sides of the map) suffer. Don't get me wrong, vulching when taking a base is a viable tactic, keeping the enemy down while taking the field. But when a furballer is at a field, and when asked to help in the taking of the field refuses, or when the furballers start crying because a bomber came and dropped the Ftr hangars (as he should when taking a field) that ruins the game for everyone, furballers and real estate takers alike.
So if it's strickly furballing you want to do...FINE...grab some of your furballing bretheren and head to the DA. This benifits both sides, you don't have to worry about the Ftr hangars being dropped, and the people who are trying to win the war don't have to hear the whining or get their prettythang shot off from lack of help.
Just my opinion, which is like an prettythang hole, everyone has one.
But lighten up on chris3, he's one of the better players and deserves more repect!
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..."Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid....", John Wayne as Sgt D.L. Stryker (Sands of Iwo Jima).
NAVCAD ... guess your just another dim light bulb that can't cast enough light to see the forest thru the trees.
There is no need for me to go to the DA. The MA can handle both styles of gameplay without causing angst and grief between the two.
How in hells bells have I tried to make "make everyone who DOES want to win the war (on all sides of the map) suffer" ? Please explain that to me.
Myself, and plenty of others CHOOSE to furball (AIR-TO-AIR COMBAT). When this takes place in the center lake of the new "Donut" map, how is our participation in that activity causing you to suffer ? Can't wait to see your answer on this one.
Maybe when you play this game long enough ... you'll understand but just for ha-ha's let me clue you in.
A 256 x 256 map is up ... there is a raging furball betwee 2 bases ... key here is the number 2.
Now ... there are hundreds of other bases/choices on the map that can be squashed by the toolshedders ... the whole war, on any map, can be won by any side WITHOUT taking either of these bases.
So, why would you/they then choose to interrupt the furball that is raging between 2 bases. I'll tell ya ... because your ilk can't stand the thought of those that are participating in the furball, aren't playing your precious WIN THE WAR. It's supposedly a waste of resources that could be used to WIN THE WAR. This is call "griefing". Those that go out of their way to spoil/ruin the enjoyment of others. Tell me how furballers "grief" the WIN THE WAR faction of this game. How do we spoil/interrupt your idea of fun when all of us are doing our thing in the center lake on the "Donut" map or furballin between two fields ?
One more time ... I DONT GIVE A RATS ARSE WHO WINS THE WAR !!! and as long as I pay my $14.95 a month ... I am entitled to feel/play the way I choose. Where is it stated anywhere in the Aces High world that I MUST participate in your efforts ... where has HiTech or any representative of his company stated that inorder to play this game you MUST bomb/JABO/capture ? Let me save you some time ... you'll never find it. This game was designed with and for CHOICE and the choice is up to the subscriber.
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NAVCAD,
It's not reasonable to suggest that furballers be restricted to the DA. Show some tolerance here.
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Originally posted by NAVCAD
OK!, Not that this horse hasn't been beaten and re-beaten to death, but SLAPSHOT, If you want to Furball, and not participate in " ...your silly war..." then go to the DA. Don't make everyone who DOES want to win the war (on all sides of the map) suffer. Don't get me wrong, vulching when taking a base is a viable tactic, keeping the enemy down while taking the field. But when a furballer is at a field, and when asked to help in the taking of the field refuses, or when the furballers start crying because a bomber came and dropped the Ftr hangars (as he should when taking a field) that ruins the game for everyone, furballers and real estate takers alike.
So if it's strickly furballing you want to do...FINE...grab some of your furballing bretheren and head to the DA. This benifits both sides, you don't have to worry about the Ftr hangars being dropped, and the people who are trying to win the war don't have to hear the whining or get their prettythang shot off from lack of help.
NACCAD, in your enlightened reality please tell me how Slapshot or any of the others who do not want to participate in your WIN THE WAR strategy are making you suffer? Is it because we are not HELPING you? Well, tough chit, little man. As far as refusing to help take a field, so what. If you want the field bring enough of your own people and DO IT RIGHT! I have seen so much total ineptitude when it comes to taking bases that why should I help you if you can't organize it properly. IT AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE!
As far as dropping the FHs, It's not necessary to do that to take a field. Only no skilled dweebs need to kill the FHs to take a base. The Unforgiven take bases all the time w/out dropping FHs. Sometimes we take bases without dropping ANYTHING except the town.
As far as your prettythang, that's your responsibility, not mine. Again, bring enough people, maintain CAP. Many a time I have watched these same people who whine that they are not getting help chase a con miles away from a base and lose CAP. Is that my problem? Sorry no.
Don't blame your lack of skill, planning and execution on others.
Let me ask you how you would feel if the furballers on all countries got together one day and porked troops and ord all over the map to essentially SHUT DOWN your war winning game? When you complain they responded, "your taking resources away from our furballing". Would you feel they are justified? Don't give me that "the object of the game" BS either. The object of the game is to have fun.
As far as the DA, the DA is not for furballing. It is for dueling, that is what the D in DA stands for. The MA is where everyone meets to play this game. The MA is where scores are made. Yes, some of the furballer do care about their score as in Hit% and K/D.
Your attitude is not only arrogant it is insulting! All these guys want from any of you is to be left alone. When they ask for a field not to be hit they are ignored and in some cases the field is deliberately attacked. Even when it has no strategic value.
What most of you guys are totally ignorant of is that some of us have lives outside of AH. Our flying time is very limited and in the 1-2 hours we may have to play this game we would like to find a good fight and enjoy it without some skill-less dweeb ruining it for us.
I'm sorry if this post sounds like a personal attack but your post sounded like an attack on all of us. It would be nice if we did not have to have this debate but it is not by any means the furballers who are perpetuating this situation. It is the people who have the same arrogant, insulting attitude you do.
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Well Howitzer you've proven to be one of the reason people have started bashing the BK's as of lately. Too bad all the BK's have to suffer for what some people do. :rolleyes:
You're 100% German but born in the US, do you speak German? Just interested. Often the people who bash peoples spelling are the same people who can't speak any other language. Guess they feal inferior...
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SlapShot:
First of all, although I don't post a lot of threads I have been in this game for over 2 years, so don't ASSume that I'm new.
Second, The center of the donut map is perfect for furballing, that isn't my grief. And yes, the majority of the maps we have can accomodate both sides of the coin.
It is unfair to arbitrarily assume that the real estate takers purposely seek out the furballers. Most of the time both sides are pretty well separated. Mabye "ruined" was too harsh a word , but when the furballers and the realestate takers meet at the same base, all that seem to happen is a lot of *****ing from BOTH sides.
The donut map is a great example of a compromise. Yes you pay your money just like I and everyone else pays theirs. You seem to take personal offense to other opinions (mabye a little less caffine in the diet would help). This is not a personal attack on you.
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[SIZE=25]Hitech please hurry up and finish ToD so sphynchterII can have his arena filled with guys who like to win the war and doesnt have his life ruined by losers who just want to fight. [/SIZE]
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Originally posted by SlapShot
How in hells bells have I tried to make "make everyone who DOES want to win the war (on all sides of the map) suffer" ? Please explain that to me.
Slap, I am more furballer than "win the war" child, so in general I would agree with you. But just for the record.
One of the problem with donat map is disbalance. For a long time HTC and community struggled for the side balance: eny limiter, battles and discussions on the board, etc. This map makes the problem worse. For example, at Tuesday evening, when Rooks were going to lose the war there was very interesting situation - 40 rooks against 2-3 knights and bishops in FT, and just few rooks tried to defend couple of fields on the south against hords. I flied for the rooks in FT, and wouldn't say that it was much fun. Everybody just tried to steal others kills, that is it. And I could understand frustration of "win the war" guys who saw huge resources wasted for nothing in the FT.
Once again, I am furballer. But let be honest, furballers can and sometimes do destroy others fun.
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Originally posted by syncrII
Moin
somethink about the donat map. she is one of the best maps i thing. but the fighter town is a litel problem for it. it tacks many aktion to this place and all other regions a realy quit. I like the maps more were the main target for all people is to hit the enemy and win the rest and not only furbaling at one place. For example i had done a ju 88 mission on sunnday, we had flow with 6 formations about 3 sectors into enemy teretory and we were untached on the complet flight to target and back home because the most people want to fight a senceles fight in fighter town. Thats not nice and it isnt god for the howl gameplay in the MA. I hope that the map creators think about this by building a new map next time. There must be a other way to rise the game fun we dont need furbalplaces we need a great war all around. the small maps are good for it. if the old smal maps were up datet with more spawnpoints i think we were on the right way.
what did you think about the situation?
cu chris3
p.s.: im sorry for my bad spelling
Originally posted by syncrII
Myself and many others DO NOT CARE about winning the WAR.
++++jes many but i belive not the most!!
One more time ... Myself and many others DO NOT CARE about winning the WAR.
++++jes many but not the most. the point is if i do something in my live i do it to get some succes and i belive that many others do it the same i belive that thay dont like to do something senseless.
We just want to engage in air-to-air combat and what is so wrong with us trying to do just that ?
++++nothing i do the same, the most time im in a fighter lucking for a nice fight but i always keep in mind that my fighting is needed to get my country forward, Yes it sounds silly for you but for me the succes of my country is the litel price of my fliing. the kills are not so interestening for me but working togther to reach a goal is mor funny than sensles furbaling, try it but i think you are long enough here in. on the other hand if your opinion is forced so hard she is somthing for the dueling arena and nothing for the MA were we still have a war and three countrys. in your opinion it were enough if everyone is his own country and fight against everyone or not?
Why MUST we participate or be FORCED to participate in your silly WAR ?
++++why must we participate in your furbalworld why must we banded to a world were the fliing is senseles?
keep in mind that this war here in AH is the only war in the world who is not silly because we have a big comunity and we have frinds on all sides and we are doing alot togther in your furbal world there is no place to do somthing together no missions are needed no big bombraid no sneeking noe missions no tankbadels for a town nothing like that but these thinks are part of the fun of this funny war.
Originally posted by syncrII
ok, i feel a litel bit mis understod.
in the beginning i told you about the new map and the fighter area and want to explain my afraidnes that these furball places have a bad influence at the gameplay because thay dreag to many people away from the "real batelfild". Ok maybe it is a time proble because the most time im online in germany not many people are online if there are nearly 500 people are only it is at my home 5 o clock in the morning by this numbers there is no broblem im sure.
but the other thing is that i miss the old gameplay with all his tactical abilitis i cant understand why it was changed and im sad that Aces high becomes more and more stail like an egoshoter and AH was always more than that. im in now since 4-5 years and i love this game i had dreamed of a game like this since i was a child and now im afraid about the future of aces high. but in real life it is the same people want to use always the easyest way and this staile comes now step by step to AH too.
to shane nice idea with channel 200 but it is not the same.
cu chris3
I dont think you realize what kind of a hypochritical tard you really are there Chrissy. You dont like the donut Map because people arent playing your way and they arent helping you win the war. mmmkay? You arent going to play with us obviously, so that being the case, and you sucking in fighters, you'd rather no one be able to furball in the donut. We cant play our own way, but its cool with you if we play your way.
A few things... No one is forcing you to furball with us. Got that? There are plenty of you tards in the MA to hold a war which is waged without us. YOU on the other hand force US to play your way when you start killing our bases. Sooo...
NO ONE IS FORCEING YOU TO FURBALL WITH FURBALLERS
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It is unfair to arbitrarily assume that the real estate takers purposely seek out the furballers.
Not really ... I can't tell you the amount of times where a fellow countryman has pissed and moaned that the country's resources are being wasted in the furball. Then, said countryman lifts from the same airfield that is feeding the furball, with bombers, and flatens the FHs at the opposing field.
Or ...
said countryman lifts from the same airfield that is feeding the furball between an airfield and a CV, with bombers, and takes out the CV. When asked multiple times, on the way to the CV, to please take out the destroyer, we get ... "screw you ... I'll bomb what I feel like bombing".
I speak from actual experience ... not just "arbitrarily assuming".
I take personal offense to those who seek to eliminate my style of play and/or purposely "grief" my style of play. That is all ... nothing more ... nothing less.
I have said this in many other threads ... don't pee in my pool and I won't pee in yours.
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I think when I come back I will devote a tour to porking strat. Ord, troops, you name it. I'll recruit some of the heavy hitting strat dweebs to help me on my mishun to ruin the fun of you toolshed furball-fight wrecking terds.
The hell with taking your bases... I dont give a rats bellybutton about them anyways. I'll take your bombs, and presious troops away...
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Cliffra Jones:
My caffine suggestion goes for you as well. You have taken this as an attack of you from me. I simply don't like all of the whining, FROM BOTH SIDES. And yes you're right, if taking a base, bring the right people and equipment. I personally hate the fact that there is a contingent in the game that seem to think you have to kill troops at all the bases. That doesn't help anybody (except mabye the furrballers..and I don't mean that in a negative way). Once you take a base, or if you take a string of bases, then you have to stop and spend time re-supplying. Not that it's a problem, but it breaks the momentum.
The best way to take a base, at times, is to drop the hangars. No problem! You're right again that "it aint rocket science", no argument.
I routinely roll into a town with nothing but an Osti and an M-3 to take a base (really pisses off the other side:)).
You talk about "Your attitude is not only arrogant it is insulting!" , I'm not the one yelling here, again les caffine I implore you. This started as an opinion and in the midst of the responses has turned into a personal war. Lighten up, it's a game. You like to play it your way, others like to play it theirs.
As I said in my first response, this is just my opinion. You (and apparently SOME of you furrballing bretheren) have taken it personally. WHY?
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You ask WHY ? ... read below.
but SLAPSHOT, If you want to Furball, and not participate in " ...your silly war..." then go to the DA. Don't make everyone who DOES want to win the war (on all sides of the map) suffer.
You come sauntering into this thread and tell ME to go do what I want to do in the DA and then you go on to tell me that, what I LIKE to do in Aces High causes suffering to others.
There is nothing wrong with my coffee ... there is/was something wrong with your approach/introduction in this thread.
I don't need you and anyone else telling me where I need to go or where I should go to enjoy this game. I would bet dollars to donuts that you would not like someone to tell you the same.
You still haven't answered the question ... How is my style of gameplay causing others to suffer ?
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One thing you tards have yet to show me is how we make you people who want to "WIN THE MIGHTY WAR" suffer.
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SlapShot:
Yes there are butt headson each team that take out personal vendettas against furrballers or war winners. That's sad! I don't subscribe to that and I would hope that neither do you.
Is it me or did this go off on a tangent of the original post?:)
Again I re-emphasize, everyone of us pays the same amount each month.
Everyone of us has the right to play his or her own way, but not to the detrement of the other players. If in the course of the game, the "war winners" and the "furballers" happen to meet over the same field then that's the breaks of the game. The solution of "there are other fields..." goes both ways. It just seems lately that there is an inordinate amount of whining, namecalling and otherwise complaining on Ch 200 and in the posts.
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a bruised and beaten man once said "can't we all just get along"...
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Blah bu blah bu blah bu blah WWWAAA WWWAAA!!!
P.S. Sniff
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Originally posted by SlapShot
It is unfair to arbitrarily assume that the real estate takers purposely seek out the furballers.
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I know all of that. I've been flying here for a one and half year almost every day. And I agree with you, what you described happened, happens and will happen forever.
But you asked how furballers could ruin others fun. I told you.
Imagine the situation - half of the rooks take off on the far corner of the map where no enemies at all, and just fly in circles to train their wingman's skills. For others disbalance would be huge, but according to roster everything is even and ok. I think you woudn't be surprised if others ask that guys to log out , and train skills in DA or TA.
How this situation differs from 40 furballers chasing Shane and couple of other guys in FT? And I don't assume that. This is real situation happened two days ago, and most of the people here can confirm this.
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Now that's funny....:)
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o/t
Chris and Maik I was looking through Luftwaffe im Focus and ran acros this picture (click on thumbnail):
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/334_1129217062_9jg54.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=25601)
I thought you and the other 9./JG54 guys may get a kick out of it. Does Kirin and St.Santa still play AH? If so pass it on...
The umbrella is made from parachute silk and the 9./JG54 art is painted on...
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Originally posted by Vad
But let be honest, furballers can and sometimes do destroy others fun.
Please explain how that can be done? Just because 40 Rooks are furballing with a few Knit/Bish in FT does not mean that they are ruining someones fun? They are doing what THEY want.
If your crying that your getting hoarded on the last few bases of a map, well that's easily fixed. Stop defending them and the map will get reset.
So you lost a meaningless war. So what.
Everyone needs to grasp this simple concept. NO ONE IN THIS GAME IS ANYONE ELSE'S RESOURCE!
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Yeah I think MANY land grab guys have a misconception that if you stop the furballers from furballing, they will help in your glorious quest to win the war. Truth of the matter is, 90% will log or try to start a furball somewhere else. I have yet to hear a furballer say,"well they killed the furball, lets join a mishun!!!":rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Vad
How this situation differs from 40 furballers chasing Shane and couple of other guys in FT? And I don't assume that. This is real situation happened two days ago, and most of the people here can confirm this.
Well, on that day I tried deffending the bases you speak of. I stopped a couple of missions comming in to one of the bases. It was easy cause they were more interested in delivering the bombs than actually having one of them keep me busy while the rest continued with their mission. See, they were all squadies, but interested in their score more than their mission, so they tried to out run a 51 with their heavies.
After that however, I tried repeatedly to lift off again but could not due to the everwhelming number of vulchers. So I went to FT and chashed Shane with the rest of them.
I guess, what you would want me to do is continue to get vulched untill reset? The tool sheaders continued to fight the war because it was easy at that time. It was a question of who is going to get the vulch first. Maybe, those 40 guys you speak of (and it was nothing close to that number) had the only options of logging off, or going to FT. So, having been pushed to FT from the toolsheaders and vulchers, the are now being blamed for ruining the fun of the vulchers cause there is no one left to vulch?
You guys are amaising. You talk about figting a war when in rweallity it is all about scorring and safety. If you really want to have a feeling of acomplishment, try taking a well deffended base. That would be kind of hard though and require coordination. Could lead to some fighting since you would have to kill the fighters, etc. Cut the BS about fighting the war. You are not "FIGHTING" anything but undefended buildings. Really a chalenge eh?
:p
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Originally posted by NAVCAD
Cliffra Jones:
My caffine suggestion goes for you as well....
As I said in my first response, this is just my opinion. You (and apparently SOME of you furrballing bretheren) have taken it personally. WHY?
Why? Because you come in here making statement you cannot back up. HOW DO WE MAKE YOU SUFFER?
Your the one who brought up,
1. Not helping take a base.
2. Blaming furballer for you getting your prettythang shot off.
3. Telling us (like you are some kind of general) to go to the DA.
So, because I'm off furballing and your getting your prettythang shot off, I'm making you suffer. I'm ruining your game play. Spare me.:cry
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Originally posted by dedalos
You guys are amaising. You talk about figting a war when in rweallity it is all about scorring and safety. If you really want to have a feeling of acomplishment, try taking a well deffended base. That would be kind of hard though and require coordination. Could lead to some fighting since you would have to kill the fighters, etc. Cut the BS about fighting the war. You are not "FIGHTING" anything but undefended buildings. Really a chalenge eh?
:p
So true. Many a time I've been at a field with these types and when the resistance does come they melt. Then you see them attacking some other undefended field far off on the map.
Freakin' heroes!
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What exactly is the diffrence for the win the war crowd if the furballer furball somewhere on the map or in the da?
They dont help win the war this or that way.
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
Please explain how that can be done? Just because 40 Rooks are furballing with a few Knit/Bish in FT does not mean that they are ruining someones fun? They are doing what THEY want.
Everyone needs to grasp this simple concept. NO ONE IN THIS GAME IS ANYONE ELSE'S RESOURCE!
I explained this in my next post.
And please, don't "ASSUME" (c) that I am "win the war" guy. I, as all other furballers, chased bishops and knights in FT in 10v1 fights.
BTW, you are incorrect about resources. If you are not resource than you presence or not presence on the arena shouldn't affect anybody. But in reality your presence is affecting others ENY limit, perk cost, etc. I agree, it is insignificant, but your statement is not absolutely correct.
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Originally posted by dedalos
I guess, what you would want me to do is continue to get vulched untill reset? :p
Of course not.
Looks like I was much clever than you, I didn't even try to get vulched, and spent that evening in FT :).
But it was boring too. About 12 EST it was 10v1 fights.
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Originally posted by Vad
I explained this in my next post.
And please, don't "ASSUME" (c) that I am "win the war" guy. I, as all other furballers, chased bishops and knights in FT in 10v1 fights.
BTW, you are incorrect about resources. If you are not resource than you presence or not presence on the arena shouldn't affect anybody. But in reality your presence is affecting others ENY limit, perk cost, etc. I agree, it is insignificant, but your statement is not absolutely correct.
I never assume. Your the one who made the statement that the furballer were ruining the LandGrabbers fun, not me.
I am no ones resource. Even with regards to my squad I fly when and where I want, not when and where someone else wants.
As far as ENY, Perks, etc.. If you don't like the ENY, perk situation then change sides. It rarely effects me no matter what the numbers. If changing sides is not an option for you then to bad, live with it. You see, most of the people who switch to the 'winning' side are the land grabbers. So they are the ones effecting the ENY,Perk thing. Not the furballers. Most of the furballer will switch to the side w/out the numbers if they are want to switch.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
I think when I come back I will devote a tour to porking strat. Ord, troops, you name it. I'll recruit some of the heavy hitting strat dweebs to help me on my mishun to ruin the fun of you toolshed furball-fight wrecking terds.
The hell with taking your bases... I dont give a rats bellybutton about them anyways. I'll take your bombs, and presious troops away...
count me in.
:aok
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Originally posted by Morpheus
[SIZE=25]Hitech please hurry up and finish ToD so sphynchterII can have his arena filled with guys who like to win the war and doesnt have his life ruined by losers who just want to fight. [/SIZE]
Now isn't that just so cute. HiTech will know you mean business now.
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
I never assume. Your the one who made the statement that the furballer were ruining the LandGrabbers fun, not me.
Incorrect. SlapShot asked how furballers could make LandGrabbers suffer.
I explained that. Nothing more, nothing else. I never made statement about my fun, about my position in this holy war between furballers and land grabbers, I never even told that I like or dislike something, at least in this thread.
I am no ones resource. Even with regards to my squad I fly when and where I want, not when and where someone else wants.
Your desires don't change the fact that your presence affects others. I don't tell you that should do or don't do anything, it is up to you. I do exactly the same what you do - have fun and don't think about someone else. Even more than you - I am not in squad.
As far as ENY, Perks, etc.. If you don't like the ENY, perk situation then change sides. It rarely effects me no matter what the numbers. If changing sides is not an option for you then to bad, live with it. You see, most of the people who switch to the 'winning' side are the land grabbers. So they are the ones effecting the ENY,Perk thing. Not the furballers. Most of the furballer will switch to the side w/out the numbers if they are want to switch.
I didn't say anything about what I like or what I don't like. I said that your presence on the arena affect others, and gave example to prove my point. Your reasonings about ENY just confirmed my point.
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The FighterTown on the Donut Map is the best thing to happen to AH in the last two years.
It's a damn shame the war winners can't leave it alone and play their own game outside the mountain ring.
No field in FT needs to be taken to reset the map.
People who choose to furball are not "resources" for little Napoleons to use in their campaigns to reset the electrons.
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whimper sniff. :( :rofl :O :noid :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by icemaw
Blah bu blah bu blah bu blah wwwaaa wwwaaa!
whimper sniff. :( :rofl :O :noid :rolleyes:
Come on guys...... To quote the Great Elvisius of Costellonia
"What's so funny bout' peace, love, and understanding?"
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Originally posted by Vad
I know all of that. I've been flying here for a one and half year almost every day. And I agree with you, what you described happened, happens and will happen forever.
But you asked how furballers could ruin others fun. I told you.
Imagine the situation - half of the rooks take off on the far corner of the map where no enemies at all, and just fly in circles to train their wingman's skills. For others disbalance would be huge, but according to roster everything is even and ok. I think you woudn't be surprised if others ask that guys to log out , and train skills in DA or TA.
How this situation differs from 40 furballers chasing Shane and couple of other guys in FT? And I don't assume that. This is real situation happened two days ago, and most of the people here can confirm this.
If this is your example ...
For example, at Tuesday evening, when Rooks were going to lose the war there was very interesting situation - 40 rooks against 2-3 knights and bishops in FT, and just few rooks tried to defend couple of fields on the south against hords. I flied for the rooks in FT, and wouldn't say that it was much fun. Everybody just tried to steal others kills, that is it. And I could understand frustration of "win the war" guys who saw huge resources wasted for nothing in the FT.
you have no clue.
If I was amongst those 40 rooks (I fly for the rooks at the moment) having a blast (remember ... I DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WINNING THE WAR) ... how is that making the other Rooks suffer ? Where is the suffering/griefing in that ? Because I choose to spend my money as I see fit (without griefing others) I am causing them to suffer. Your stretching it just a tad too far for the sake of trying to make a point and in the end ... its not helping you.
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Oh I get it now ... its my presence that is "griefing" the toolshedders.
I see ... my presence is part of the ENY factor so if I am not wacking the crap out of stationary objects, then my presence in the ENY calculations causes it to go askew. zOMFG !!! QUAH !!! you have got to be kidding me.
The ENY sword cuts both ways. My prefered ride is the Spit V which is one of the first planes to feel the swift cut of the ENY sword. But OMG ... I am now forced to fly something else ... like am FM2, Ki, P-38, P-47, F6-F, F4U-1, C205 ... what am I to do ... :O
Meanwhile (at the same time) all the toolshedders have been stripped of their favorite rides and can't continue to take the fight to the enemy ?
Somehow I don't see the parity. I can tear a field/town up with a P-47-D25,D11,D30 or a P-38-J,G, F6-F, 110-G2, F4U-1 ... the list goes on ... and all of these planes hardly ever feel the cut of the ENY sword (things really have to be out of balance for these planes to get eliminated).
Find a better example as to how furballers "grief" the toolshedders.
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Geez, are you BK's getting treatment in the same Hospital :rolleyes: ? Doctors should change medication then.
Again chris was trying to express his Feelings considering Map developments, maybe he got misunderstood because of his english spelling it gives nobody esp. not a B lue K nallkopf (couldn't hold it ;)) the right to jump on him and call him names.
I personally find Fightertown a great addition too.
@ Bruno: great pic :D.
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ROFL, newbs be running their mouths off about how we are making them suffer, their war is put in jepordy because of us and our lame game play. Yet when I ask how, they shut em like good little newbs.
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Originally posted by Toad
The FighterTown on the Donut Map is the best thing to happen to AH in the last two years..
yep
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Originally posted by SlapShot
If I was amongst those 40 rooks (I fly for the rooks at the moment) having a blast (remember ... I DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WINNING THE WAR) ... how is that making the other Rooks suffer ? Where is the suffering/griefing in that ? Because I choose to spend my money as I see fit (without griefing others) I am causing them to suffer. Your stretching it just a tad too far for the sake of trying to make a point and in the end ... its not helping you.
You make other Rooks suffer because you "don't give a crap" about achieving their goals. You don't like them, you don't want to participate in their efforts. Instead of help them to win the war you prefer to play in your own sandbox. They are deaming about how fast they would precipitate all their enemies if all that excellent fighter pilots who are spending their lifes in sensless furballs joined them. But dreams never come true... No, reality becomes worse and worse. If you at least sometimes helped them in their efforts on other maps just because you happened to be not far from their targets now you are sitting in the center of the map far from any " must to be capped" field, and just waste priceless ENY resource. Nigtmares, bad appetite, problems with co-workers and in family, suicidal thoughts... And you want to say that this is not suffering?
Please, don't make me suffer. I am starting to believe that some people are very heartless which is obviously not true.
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Here's the bottom line, for me.
Furballers, I love you guys (in a manly sort of way). BUT you are not the center of my universe. Sometimes, I like to furball. It's good, mindless, quick fun.
Sometimes, I like to do base capture stuff. It's fun, too, but in a different way.
DO I DELIBERATELY GO AFTER YOUR FURBALL, to "grief" you (that isn't really a word, by the way)? No. I don't even think about you when I am doing my base capture thing, except as something in my way--some kind of challenge to be overcome. Part of the requirements (based on the game design) that I need to accomplish
News Flash: On Dar, it's very difficult to tell a furball from the usual base capture/defense conga line. Hell, we're both (groups) attracted to the large darbar--I want to attack, destroy, and work my will over the base defenders (insert evil laugh here), and you are looking for targets and opponents.
I've seen and been in your "furballs", and frankly don't see the wonder of it all. Typically, there are a bunch of planes down on the deck, wrapping around each other and trying to get the guns pointed at a target--any target. Above this lower stratus, there is a group of opportunists--all looking for the moment when one of low-level guys loses situational awareness, and they can swoop in for a kill. Above them are the cherry pickers, looking for the same thing.
All good fun. Exciting, even. Great for adrenaline junkies. And, sometimes, an adrenaline rush is what I want. Other times, I want something else from the game.
The way I see it, there's room for both groups in the game, at the same time. If you think otherwise, then you are free to go somewhere else, as I am free to go somewhere else if I feel that your furballing is getting in the way of my desired game experience.
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The only way furballers grief toolshedders is by shooting them down, repeatedly. How dare they fly into that twenty-plane horde and fight, and make the toolshedders try to find another undefended field to milk. The horror.
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Originally posted by Vad
You make other Rooks suffer because you "don't give a crap" about achieving their goals. You don't like them, you don't want to participate in their efforts. Instead of help them to win the war you prefer to play in your own sandbox. They are deaming about how fast they would precipitate all their enemies if all that excellent fighter pilots who are spending their lifes in sensless furballs joined them. But dreams never come true... No, reality becomes worse and worse. If you at least sometimes helped them in their efforts on other maps just because you happened to be not far from their targets now you are sitting in the center of the map far from any " must to be capped" field, and just waste priceless ENY resource. Nigtmares, bad appetite, problems with co-workers and in family, suicidal thoughts... And you want to say that this is not suffering?
Please, don't make me suffer. I am starting to believe that some people are very heartless which is obviously not true.
And yet, we are the ones that will up base that is flashing to defend it. We will up when vulchers are already there and try and bust the cap. Where were the heros on the day you speak of? I tried upping 10 times in a row, made it off the runway and got a couple of the attackers before being shot down. The base was lost but at list I tried. Where were all the WAR EFFORT guys? What is the effort that you need help that we don't help you with? Killing a building? How hard is it?
Our squad text usually has messages like this one. "A## is under attack. Lets go" or "Good fight building at A##".
Whats on yours? "FH up in 5 mins. Hold your ord?", "Fight at A##, lets hit the FH"?
Non of your efforts would be sucessful with out fighters killing fighters. I've been acussed (yeld at) on vox by the war generals for not helping. In reallity, they were just stupid. I was keeping 3 or 4 fighters away from the town over the water while his goon was waiting at the town. What do you think would hapen if I took his order to go an hit the church? Would the Nikis go after me or him? Just tooooooo stupid to get it.
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The only interference with the other faction comes from the toolshedders---why yu ask---cause furballers don't climb up but toolshedders come down---usually after they drop oradanence over the water when they see a bunch of low dots.
And I salute the whole works of em cause trying to shoot down B&Z is kinda fun.
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You make other Rooks suffer because you "don't give a crap" about achieving their goals. You don't like them, you don't want to participate in their efforts. Instead of help them to win the war you prefer to play in your own sandbox. They are deaming about how fast they would precipitate all their enemies if all that excellent fighter pilots who are spending their lifes in sensless furballs joined them.
Man ... you just don't get it.
I do not log in to the MA to become your or anybody elses little puppet in the "WIN THE WAR" effort. That is not what I signed up for, and there is nothing in all of Aces High's Terms and Conditions that says that is what I MUST do. They can dream until the cows come home, but if I decide that I do not want to participate in their quest ... then so be it ... that is MY choice and mine alone ... not yours ... not theirs ... not anybody's ... its all MINE.
Listen ... I flew for the MAW for a couple of years ... I know all about the WIN THE WAR ... landgrab scene. I had fun with it but I chose to move on.
Never ... I repeat NEVER ... did I ostracize or "grief" those who chose not to participate in our activities ... nor, at any time did I feel that my style of gameplay (base-taking) was suffering at the hands of those who chose to furball. That is selfishness at it highest.
I'll tell you another thing ... when I do participate (and I do at times) in the land-grab scene ... I laugh at their execution (compared to MAW training). Most, when it comes to base-taking, could find their arse with both hands ... that is another reason why I very rarely partake ... talk about a waste of time. The intentions for the most part aren't to take the base, but to level everything in sight and then all scramble for the few vulches that may have gotten wheels up. Joy of joys !!!
Just so you understand ... I am a furballer only in the sense that I do not participate in land-grabbing and prefer the fight with an individual rather than a stationary object. I can only take so much of the twisting chaos of a true furball ... what I like to do is find a base that is under imminent attack or already under attack and slap the silly little toolshedders out of the sky and hope that there is someone in the group who can put up a good fight. In most cases ... this works for me.
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Originally posted by Vad
Incorrect. SlapShot asked how furballers could make LandGrabbers suffer.
Are you pscytzo or what? This is the 3rd post you put up saying you did not say what you obviously said. I don't have time to quote them all but here is the short form of some.
Furballers can make the land grabbers suffer.
Stilll have not answered that.
Our presence effect the land grabbers due to ENY/Perks
I answered it. It is a BS argument.
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Originally posted by dedalos
And yet, we are the ones that will up base that is flashing to defend it. We will up when vulchers are already there and try and bust the cap. Where were the heros on the day you speak of? I tried upping 10 times in a row, made it off the runway and got a couple of the attackers before being shot down. The base was lost but at list I tried. Where were all the WAR EFFORT guys? What is the effort that you need help that we don't help you with? Killing a building? How hard is it?
Our squad text usually has messages like this one. "A## is under attack. Lets go" or "Good fight building at A##".
Whats on yours? "FH up in 5 mins. Hold your ord?", "Fight at A##, lets hit the FH"?
Non of your efforts would be sucessful with out fighters killing fighters. I've been acussed (yeld at) on vox by the war generals for not helping. In reallity, they were just stupid. I was keeping 3 or 4 fighters away from the town over the water while his goon was waiting at the town. What do you think would hapen if I took his order to go an hit the church? Would the Nikis go after me or him? Just tooooooo stupid to get it.
Of course, you are hero! And I am sure you are one of the best fighter pilots in this game.
Just one question: why do you write "you" in your post? I just checked my stats: since May I have made about 1900 sorties , and it was about 80 (4%) in attack mode, plus 14 (0.7%) in bombers.
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Think of "you" in the collective, not individual sense.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Hey dipchit, you havent answered the question at hand here. HOW do we make you suffer? There is your group and my group. mmmkay?
So your group plays with eachother, and our group plays with eachother. I in now way will go out of my way to help you people win the war.
Guess what genious? There is no war for me. I log on to fight the other plane. If the other plane wants to fight a building rather than me, can I help that? I can shoot him down but we've dont that already. And its no fun clubbing baby seals time and time again.
The age old saying. I'll play my way, you can play your way. Are you that arogant that you are going to sit there and ***** about me not playing your way? When we've already told you we dont give a **** about your war, taking your base, helping you drive troops, bomb your FH's and towns. So what dont you get about that? There is plenty of toolshed tards in the MA for you to grasp hold of and use for your ultimate goal.. Which is winning your "ALL MIGHTY WAR". Its really too bad for you that you wont get everyone. If your going to **** in my sandbox Im going to make sure you cant eat, thus you wont be able to take a **** where I play. I promise you when I come back on line you tards will have no bombs available near by where Im playing. If you say I make you jerkoffs suffer, so be it. I'll make you suffer.
You are wrong. It is not me, it is you who are sitting here and cry about your holy wars with "real estate" or good fights with other planes.
I am busy, and have no time to waste. I am here to practice my English which is even worse than my flight skills.
What do you think is it clever to agrue with Land grabbers? There are just few posts from them here, and you guys replies so fast that I have no chance to add my comments. To argue with you is much more effective.
Enough for today.
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Well Howitzer you've proven to be one of the reason people have started bashing the BK's as of lately. Too bad all the BK's have to suffer for what some people do. :rolleyes:
You're 100% German but born in the US, do you speak German? Just interested. Often the people who bash peoples spelling are the same people who can't speak any other language. Guess they feal inferior...
Well Wilbus, I'm sorry you feel that way, because I'll reiterate one more time that I wasn't bashing anyone. It was just friendly teasing. Each member of the BKs is their own person and are responsible for their own actions, so I'd appreciate it if you would simply point all of your snide comments about me directly to me and leave them out of it.
I am happy that you take an interest in my dialect abilities, hopefully we can use this as a gateway to resolve our little misunderstanding and by next week we can take the next baby step and try trading baseball cards or maybe you can come over and we can play GI Joe's or something. Anyway, I speak some german and some spanish, but I am not fluent in either, but I have family members who are.
Again, instead of trying so hard to find the fault in what people type on this board, maybe you should try and look at it in a different light and realize that sarcasm and teasing without implied hostility are indeed possible in this environment.
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I never intended to bash the BK's, nor do I think I did. I simply said that comments like what you typed above is probarly the reason that the BK's have been bashed lately. You missunderstood this, there are quite a few BK's I like and whom I enjoy flying with.
I didn't see no sarcasm in what you typed, all I saw was bashing, not friendly bashing, just bashing. Remember, when you type, you will need to clarify even more that it is sarcasm, we can't look at your face to see how we should read/understand it.
I am happy that you take an interest in my dialect abilities, hopefully we can use this as a gateway to resolve our little misunderstanding and by next week we can take the next baby step and try trading baseball cards or maybe you can come over and we can play GI Joe's or something.
There ya go again, being all silly and immature about it.
Again, instead of trying so hard to find the fault in what people type on this board, maybe you should try and look at it in a different light and realize that sarcasm and teasing without implied hostility are indeed possible in this environment.
Like I said, I saw no sarcasm in it, I didn't see it as teasing and I still don't even though you've explained. I just see it as bad manners.
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way to take it with a grain of salt and stay on topic. :aok
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Originally posted by Shane
Think of "you" in the collective, not individual sense.
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Topic? Do we still have a topic? ;)
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Topic? Do we still have a topic?
Hey dipchit,
Guess what genious?
If you say I make you jerkoffs suffer, so be it. I'll make you suffer.
No, I don' think there is a topic anymore. Just the usual. :D
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Originally posted by Wilbus
I never intended to bash the BK's, nor do I think I did. I simply said that comments like what you typed above is probarly the reason that the BK's have been bashed lately. You missunderstood this, there are quite a few BK's I like and whom I enjoy flying with.
I didn't see no sarcasm in what you typed, all I saw was bashing, not friendly bashing, just bashing. Remember, when you type, you will need to clarify even more that it is sarcasm, we can't look at your face to see how we should read/understand it.
There ya go again, being all silly and immature about it.
Like I said, I saw no sarcasm in it, I didn't see it as teasing and I still don't even though you've explained. I just see it as bad manners.
Well once again you are taking it too seriously. You've proven you can't joke around and you take offense to everything. I think that you refuse to take a lighthearted approach to this conversation and you simply enjoy finding fault with others. I cannot help you to understand any further than I already have, so if you want to continue being mad don't let me stop you. But I think that you will find that quite a few folks know me in game, and I'm not a person who enjoys bashing others for fun. I do however like to tease and laugh about things lightheartedly.
But rest assured you will go down on record for really putting me in my place with your stern comments and unwaivering attitude. If you catch me ongame sometime or even in PM we can talk about it again, but if you don't care, then you don't care and I can accept that if you can... :aok
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Wilbuz, my apologies. Howi, check squad forum messages ASAP.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by rshubert
Here's the bottom line, for me.
Furballers, I love you guys (in a manly sort of way). BUT you are not the center of my universe. Sometimes, I like to furball. It's good, mindless, quick fun.
Sometimes, I like to do base capture stuff. It's fun, too, but in a different way.
DO I DELIBERATELY GO AFTER YOUR FURBALL, to "grief" you (that isn't really a word, by the way)? No. I don't even think about you when I am doing my base capture thing, except as something in my way--some kind of challenge to be overcome. Part of the requirements (based on the game design) that I need to accomplish
News Flash: On Dar, it's very difficult to tell a furball from the usual base capture/defense conga line. Hell, we're both (groups) attracted to the large darbar--I want to attack, destroy, and work my will over the base defenders (insert evil laugh here), and you are looking for targets and opponents.
I've seen and been in your "furballs", and frankly don't see the wonder of it all. Typically, there are a bunch of planes down on the deck, wrapping around each other and trying to get the guns pointed at a target--any target. Above this lower stratus, there is a group of opportunists--all looking for the moment when one of low-level guys loses situational awareness, and they can swoop in for a kill. Above them are the cherry pickers, looking for the same thing.
All good fun. Exciting, even. Great for adrenaline junkies. And, sometimes, an adrenaline rush is what I want. Other times, I want something else from the game.
The way I see it, there's room for both groups in the game, at the same time. If you think otherwise, then you are free to go somewhere else, as I am free to go somewhere else if I feel that your furballing is getting in the way of my desired game experience.
Good post Shubie.
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Originally posted by dedalos
. Where were the heros on the day you speak of? I tried upping 10 times in a row, made it off the runway and got a couple of the attackers before being shot down. The base was lost but at list I tried. Where were all the WAR EFFORT guys? What is the effort that you need help that we don't help you with? Killing a building? How hard is it?
The next time you up at a capped field 10 times, film it and post it. You don't have the stats of a guy that does that--not enough deaths, by far.
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Hehe, putting you in place? No, atleast I understand your sarcasm and irony when it comes to those lines ;)
It was never my intention to put you in place nor did I do it. I gave you my opinion and my view on your post, the way I (and I guess some others aswell) understood it. Simply saying if you're gonna be sarcastic, maybe you should overdo it.
You can joke as much as you want around me if it does indeed show up as a joke. I don't get offended very easily but I don't really take it lightly when someone makes fun of one of my squadies (sarcastic or not) because of their spelling.
But I think that you will find that quite a few folks know me in game, and I'm not a person who enjoys bashing others for fun.
Sounds good too me :)
The discussion is ended, you know what I mean with the post and I know what you mean. Period.
Cu in the virtual skies :)
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Leviathn
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Originally posted by rshubert
The next time you up at a capped field 10 times, film it and post it. You don't have the stats of a guy that does that--not enough deaths, by far.
Check the two prev tours. I flew half of this with my 5 year old daughter under a different name.
My point remains the same. What is it that you guys need help with? I told you in my post how I try to help. If you don't get it then I cant do anything about that. You quoted parts of my post to try and call me a liyer. The people that have fought me in the game know that I will repeatedly up if I think there is a hope of saving the base. I don't think I have ever seen you in the game (time zone diff probably) so don't talk about things you don't know.
Why don't you post some fims of your duels with a building? Maybe we will be able to see where the help is needed.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
I do not log in to the MA to become your or anybody elses little puppet in the "WIN THE WAR" effort.
I'm just glad I don't care one way or the other. I just fly around doing my best to last more than 3 minutes.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Wilbuz, my apologies. Howi, check squad forum messages ASAP.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Hmmm,
Its good to see such a diverse set of people with so many differing views, pity some of you get personal but hey each to their own.
I think everyone pays their moneys so its up to them how they want to fly, I dont have a problem with FT as I rarely go near it.
I understand Chris's Point not Syncryll, (Morpheus :O ) but I can only assume that the Furballers are there as much for the community as for the flying. If they all went to the DA then who would they be able to grunt at?
Hitech and the team made a concious effort to bring furballing into the game by introducing the FT and if it attracts players then all the better for his pocket. It does'nt suit us all but then nothing ever will, you can bet in a years time if ToD has been released and is successful we will be whining about some aspect of flying around for hours on end with no action. who knows?
Not much else I can say apart from I am surprised by the reaction of BK as I thought you guys had a bit more integretary about you than to get personnal. Still people never fail to dissapoint.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
NAVCAD ... guess your just another dim light bulb
Not even a good nightlight. :p
Originally posted by Wilbus
Often the people who bash peoples spelling are the same people who can't speak any other language. Guess they feal inferior...
I guess you speak two languages and feel superior to most people? :huh
Originally posted by NAVCAD
It is unfair to arbitrarily assume that the real estate takers purposely seek out the furballers....... You seem to take personal offense to other opinions (mabye a little less caffine in the diet would help). This is not a personal attack on you.
From your stats I'd say you mostly milkrun for points. You obviously can't fight.
Yes there are many griefers who live to pork CVs, FHs, etc...
Yes that is a personal attack on Slapshot.
Originally posted by Vad
Imagine the situation - half of the rooks take off on the far corner of the map where no enemies at all, and just fly in circles to train their wingman's skills. For others disbalance would be huge, but according to roster everything is even and ok. I think you woudn't be surprised if others ask that guys to log out , and train skills in DA or TA.
:lol :rofl :O :rolleyes: :lol
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Originally posted by Noir
makes you ask yourself : why did HT bothered with strat in the first place ! lol
If the Strat system is ever fixed, it will actually provide some worthwhile targets for bombers.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Vad
Once again, I am furballer. But let be honest, furballers can and sometimes do destroy others fun.
No offense, but if people want to fight and not participate in your "milkrunning" that is hardly ruining your fun. People like you that go out and take out the FH's in the furball area in the Donut map because we're not helping you win "THE WAR" does ruin people's fun. Get a clue seal pup.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Schutt
What exactly is the diffrence for the win the war crowd if the furballer furball somewhere on the map or in the da?
They dont help win the war this or that way.
Heeellllooooooooo:lol
Thank you...perfectly said.:aok
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One entry found for integrity.
Main Entry: in·teg·ri·ty
Pronunciation: in-'te-gr&-tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English integrite, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French integrité, from Latin integritat-, integritas, from integr-, integer entire
1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values : INCORRUPTIBILITY
2 : an unimpaired condition : SOUNDNESS
3 : the quality or state of being complete or undivided : COMPLETENESS
synonym see HONESTY
Happy now, Levi?
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Not much else I can say apart from I am surprised by the reaction of BK as I thought you guys had a bit more integretary about you than to get personnal. Still people never fail to dissapoint.
No different than some from JG54 have displayed in the past. Were you judged for their actions ? ... I don't think so. Leave squads out of this.
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Originally posted by maik
Geez, are you BK's getting treatment in the same Hospital :rolleyes: ? Doctors should change medication then.
Again chris was trying to express his Feelings considering Map developments, maybe he got misunderstood because of his english spelling it gives nobody esp. not a B lue K nallkopf (couldn't hold it ;)) the right to jump on him and call him names.
I personally find Fightertown a great addition too.
@ Bruno: great pic :D.
No, he was understood pefectly. He doesnt think people who want to just have fun a dogfight have a right to play this game. Why you think people dont have the right to respond to this on a BBS is a bit odd.
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
NO ONE IN THIS GAME IS ANYONE ELSE'S RESOURCE!
not true...
you're all my chew toy perk point farm.
:aok
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Originally posted by syncrII
++++jes many but not the most. the point is if i do something in my live i do it to get some succes and i belive that many others do it the same i belive that thay dont like to do something senseless.
Hey, guess what? Not everyone belives in the same things.
++++why must we participate in your furbalworld why must we banded to a world were the fliing is senseles?
No one said you had to. The issue is people like you who take action against other paying customers who dont play they way you think they should. Because you think its 'senseless' doesnt exactly mean it is. What is senseless is trying to force people to do it your way.
This whole arguement has gone on for longer than Ive been a part of the flight sim community. On most maps the furballers just have to deal with 'war' aspect of them game whether they like it or not. Now that we have Donut map with its Fighter Town area, there is a place for people to go that in no way interferes with the 'war'. People can go to the arena with the most people, the most action, and have some fun in large furballs. An arena where you can go take a few bases, bomb some strats, and kill some tanks for the 'war' effort. Then go have a hell of a fight when ever you feel like it.
But that just wont do for some of you. You must do something about this. You'll show them what the score is. You'll make a mission and take this away from the nonbelievers. You will force them to see it your way. And once you have seized the FT from the ones who dont deserve to play your game, you will rub it in as to who the true warriors around here are. Now you have 'street cred'.
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This war is pointless. If you need those 25 perks that badly, get into a fighter and get into a furball to get kills.
Many of us in the arena enjoy furballing and that is why you will find most people in FT on the donut map. We enjoy furballing and not doing senseless porking, attacking undefended fields, and having people just totally ruin fights when there is one. Many of the other maps we would be engaged in great furballs then some self stuckup toolshedder goes and kills the FHs, and there goes the FHs.
So dont even bother trying to get us furballers to fight this silly "war" for you, we dont have the patience for boredom as you may do and we want to enjoy ourselves when we log on to fly to fight not pork and take bases.
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No different than some from JG54 have displayed in the past. Were you judged for their actions ? ... I don't think so. Leave squads out of this.
You don't know what JG54 you are talking about. 9./JG54 is one of the longest standing squads in AH (formed after the original JG2 split way back before most of you heard of AH). The mouthy JG54s are the CT squad and are completely different.
For the record Vox is right. The old BKs were a completely different animal they what you see today.
Just saying...
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Happy now, Levi?
Keep it in the squad forums. No need to air it here.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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No, he was understood pefectly. He doesnt think people who want to just have fun a dogfight have a right to play this game. Why you think people dont have the right to respond to this on a BBS is a bit odd.
No offense, but this answer proves, that he was totally misunderstood. Which could happen, but that is, at least for me, still no reason for the kind of responds he got.
Actually people are supposed to respond but I do make a difference in the way they are doing this.
regards
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Originally posted by DipStick
I guess you speak two languages and feel superior to most people? :huh
Nope, I neither feal superior or am superior.
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moin
thx maik.
i try it again hope i say it correctly now. Im afraid of the howl development of the howl game play in MA (map development and chanches in the tactical abilitis) thats all. Im afraid of the way to the future the games goes to. i doesnt want to play a 100% egoshooter in two years and i think HT agrees with me if i say he had not planed this game like an egoshooter. the change of all these things are comming because all that many wines of i say it now the "party people" the party people crys lauder than the majoryty of the AH community and thats why HT thinks he must go to there way. thats my afraidness thats all i want to say and i want to see if sombody have the same afraidness. hope you guys understand me correctly this time i didnt want attack someone and i didnt want to say what is the corect way of game play only that i and many others didnt want to play an egoshooter.
cu chris3
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Originally posted by SlapShot
.....I'll tell you another thing ... when I do participate (and I do at times) in the land-grab scene ... I laugh at their execution (compared to MAW training). Most, when it comes to base-taking, could find their arse with both hands ... that is another reason why I very rarely partake ... talk about a waste of time. The intentions for the most part aren't to take the base, but to level everything in sight and then all scramble for the few vulches that may have gotten wheels up. Joy of joys !!!
Just so you understand ... I am a furballer only in the sense that I do not participate in land-grabbing and prefer the fight with an individual rather than a stationary object. I can only take so much of the twisting chaos of a true furball ... what I like to do is find a base that is under imminent attack or already under attack and slap the silly little toolshedders out of the sky and hope that there is someone in the group who can put up a good fight. In most cases ... this works for me.
compared to some of the other things you have posted, I think the above clearly outlines yours and perhaps some of the others outlook. Not that you would give a $..t, but it's something I can relate to and understand.
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Nope, I neither feal superior or am superior.
nope ,it's the fact you're a member of the 9./JG54 that make your superior !
Did I say I'm a 9./jg54 member myself ? ;)
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well.... you strat girls can say that you aren't trying to spoil the fight... you can even say that you own a joystick and that you "go both ways" .... that you only strat when.... when what? that it is a fun diversion or whatever.
The truth is.... us furballers don't go both ways.... we don't like you guys that do any more than we like the dedicated mouse weilders..
We don't like you. we never have.... we never will. you are pathetic to us. Amungst ourselves.. we speak of you in either disgusted tones or ridicule you. We won't pretend that you have a right to ruin our game. we only attack your fat, virus of a fluff formation when we are bored to tears. We find fighting you is every bit as boring as having you spoil the fun in the game.
Lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by syncrII
moin
thx maik.
i try it again hope i say it correctly now. Im afraid of the howl development of the howl game play in MA (map development and chanches in the tactical abilitis) thats all. Im afraid of the way to the future the games goes to. i doesnt want to play a 100% egoshooter in two years and i think HT agrees with me if i say he had not planed this game like an egoshooter. the change of all these things are comming because all that many wines of i say it now the "party people" the party people crys lauder than the majoryty of the AH community and thats why HT thinks he must go to there way. thats my afraidness thats all i want to say and i want to see if sombody have the same afraidness. hope you guys understand me correctly this time i didnt want attack someone and i didnt want to say what is the corect way of game play only that i and many others didnt want to play an egoshooter.
cu chris3
You do know about Tour of Duty right? No need for afraidness of the egoshooting party people. Room for all here.
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Originally posted by lazs2
well.... you strat girls can say that you aren't trying to spoil the fight... you can even say that you own a joystick and that you "go both ways" .... that you only strat when.... when what? that it is a fun diversion or whatever.
The truth is.... us furballers don't go both ways.... we don't like you guys that do any more than we like the dedicated mouse weilders..
We don't like you. we never have.... we never will. you are pathetic to us. Amungst ourselves.. we speak of you in either disgusted tones or ridicule you. We won't pretend that you have a right to ruin our game. we only attack your fat, virus of a fluff formation when we are bored to tears. We find fighting you is every bit as boring as having you spoil the fun in the game.
Lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Damn man... chillax. You are wound WAY too tight.
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Lassie is off his meds again. Look out world--he's armed with a sharp tongue.
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Originally posted by lazs2
We don't like you. we never have.... we never will. you are pathetic to us. Amungst ourselves.. we speak of you in either disgusted tones or ridicule you. We won't pretend that you have a right to ruin our game. we only attack your fat, virus of a fluff formation when we are bored to tears. We find fighting you is every bit as boring as having you spoil the fun in the game.
Lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Hmmm...Mega...didn't you same something in another post about somebody painting with a broad brush when refering to the BKs? Maybe this is why. :D
Note the we, all inclusive.
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The BK's think what I want em to think so yeah.... I speak for em... and every furballer worth a damn too.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by lazs2
I speak for em...
!!!!JAAAAaa J0000OOOoo StHuP1d N000oob!!! D@tS n0t H0w j00000OOOooo Sp33K!!!!