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Title: Weather changes
Post by: Boroda on October 12, 2005, 01:12:54 PM
It's October, 12th, and we have +15C in the street, no rain for over a week.

We have peat swamps on fire around Moscow. We had such things in August of 1972 and 2002, after extremely hot and rainless summers. But now it's a middle of October, usually we have first snow at this time already. I remember some years when we had first snow (not permanent) in September.

I smell the smoke from that burning peat in the street. Visibility is limited to 500m at some places. I can see the smog in the street... Airports still function in normal regime, but I think they'll soon operate in "limited visibility" mode.

First I thought that we live to "old" Julian calendar, Church uses it (Christmas on January 7th here), it's still Sept 30th according to "old style", 13 days difference in XXI century. But even for Sept 30th +15C is too hot. It's OK for me, only if Spring will not be delayed as Autumn.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Hangtime on October 12, 2005, 01:53:14 PM
Is all that russian for  "I'm melting... melting.. what a world..." ??
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Boroda on October 12, 2005, 02:13:20 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Is all that russian for  "I'm melting... melting.. what a world..." ??


I have to ask you a standard question to say the same thing in other words :)

I am absolutely happy with this weather, +10C to +15C is absolutely comfortable for me, I wear a cotton shirt and a thin sympatex coat now, mostly because it has many pockets, and because I still instinctively expect a rain in October ;)
Title: Weather changes
Post by: LLv34 Jarsci on October 12, 2005, 02:22:09 PM
Same thing here in Finland, +15 Celsius and sun is shining. 2 years back we had 10 cm permanent snow cover and -5 celsius. I don´t complain , its much nicer this way , but I really hope that spring will be as nice as it is now...

I don´t like snow that much after all...
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Skuzzy on October 12, 2005, 02:28:46 PM
We have had record breaking heat for September.  Two weeks ago it was 102F.  We finally got a break and are back to normal temps for this time of year.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Hangtime on October 12, 2005, 02:31:09 PM
there's no such thing as global warming.

it's all a hoax perpetrated by the greens and financed by the reds.

which has nothing to do with my buying a beachfront summer house on McMurdo sound.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Clifra Jones on October 12, 2005, 03:33:18 PM
You all are teh sux!

Here we have Rain! from Aug. to Nov. Rain and more rain. And big monster storms that thankfully seem to always miss my home town here in N. Fl. But it still rains, and rains some more. Then the government tells us "Don't use alot of water because we don't have enough!" Then it rains some more. I don't get it:confused:
Title: Weather changes
Post by: john9001 on October 12, 2005, 03:39:30 PM
the permafrost will melt and all the caraboo will drown, that will be just before the sea levels rise 200ft and then yellowstone blows up and causes a new ice age and then a big meteor hit earth and kills everything.

what, me worry?
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Eagler on October 12, 2005, 04:55:12 PM
it is the big sea monsters from outer space, maybe inner space, eating the giant whales and warming the oceans ...

tell ya more next week...
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Gh0stFT on October 12, 2005, 04:55:14 PM
Boroda,

as longer Sep. & Okt. stays warm,
as colder & longer will be the winter.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Hangtime on October 12, 2005, 05:33:29 PM
melting..... melting..... whatta world....
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 12, 2005, 10:53:54 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
melting..... melting..... whatta world....


Yet 50 Kiwi glaciers are advancing...  Go figure
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Angus on October 13, 2005, 05:37:25 AM
Our Icelandic glaciers are retreating - yet we had the coldest September in a 120 years or so.
Greenland's glaciers are also retreating.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Vulcan on October 13, 2005, 07:34:31 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Yet 50 Kiwi glaciers are advancing...  Go figure


We don't have 50 freaking glaciers, and they're not advancing, Fox Glacier is retreating. I understand the studies show the Amazon to be the densest and healthiest its ever been (cept those chopped down bits). Natures responding... although we are seeing more algal blooms in the ocean which isn't good news
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 13, 2005, 07:37:23 AM
According to this you do.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2005/09/20/2003272425 (http://)
Title: Weather changes
Post by: SkyWolf on October 13, 2005, 07:44:27 AM
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
Then the government tells us "Don't use alot of water because we don't have enough!" Then it rains some more. I don't get it:confused:


Too many G.D. people for the water supply. Mostly south of you.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 13, 2005, 07:53:48 AM
source (http://pubs.usgs.gov/prof/p1386h/nzealand/nzealand.html)

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Anderton (1973) had previously identified 527 glaciers more than 0.1 km2 in area and estimated the volume of water stored as perennial snow and ice in the glaciers of the Southern Alps to be approximately 50 km3, with an area of 810 km2. Results from the present glacier inventory indicate that the total number of glaciers exceeding 0.01 km2 in area in the Southern Alps is 3,155 , with an estimated ice volume of 53.3 km3 and a total glacier area of 1,159 km2. In the Mount Whitcombe region 819 glaciers have been inventoried; 351  of these occur to the west of the main divide (Westland area) and the remaining 468  to the east of the main divide (Canterbury area). Many glaciers have areas close to 0.2 km2 , and 82 percent of the Canterbury glaciers are this size or smaller (fig. 3), while in Westland 70 percent of the glaciers are equal to or less than 0.2 km2 (fig. 4). Fifty percent of Canterbury glaciers are smaller than 0.06 km2, while 50 percent of Westland glaciers are smaller than 0.09 km2. Canterbury glaciers predominantly face south to southeast, and most Westland glaciers face between west and north (fig. 5).


I guess you're right... you don't have 50 freaking glaciers.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Vulcan on October 13, 2005, 08:00:00 AM
0.1 km2 is not a freakin glacier mate.

This is a glacier:

(http://www.uniquelodges.co.nz/teweheka/images/glacier.jpg)
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Leslie on October 13, 2005, 08:38:50 AM
Boroda, do not breathe that smog and leave the area if possible.  I don't know about what happens because I'm not a chemist.  From looking at some websites this is what I think might be expedient.  Peat bogs are vast producers of methane.  When methane combusts, one of the byproducts is ethane.  Ethane combustion produces sulfur dioxide.  That smoke is poisonous so get the hell outta there soon as you can.

If you can't leave, avoid breathing that smog by using a wet towel or something over your face.  The rains will dilute it considerably.  Please be careful.  It sounds like a dangerous situation to be taken seriously.  Mask off any vents to your house from outside, keep the windows rolled up in your car, and take precautions when going outdoors.




Les
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Angus on October 13, 2005, 08:55:07 AM
So2???? Better take care.

As for glaciers, this is a glacier:

(http://www.simnet.is/camping/glacier/jeeps.jpg)

8.000 square kilometers. Retreating rapidly. Europs biggest Glacier.
And compared to the Greenland Glacier,- a mere dwarf.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Boroda on October 13, 2005, 11:28:42 AM
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Originally posted by Leslie
Boroda, do not breathe that smog and leave the area if possible.  I don't know about what happens because I'm not a chemist.  From looking at some websites this is what I think might be expedient.  Peat bogs are vast producers of methane.  When methane combusts, one of the byproducts is ethane.  Ethane combustion produces sulfur dioxide.  That smoke is poisonous so get the hell outta there soon as you can.

If you can't leave, avoid breathing that smog by using a wet towel or something over your face.  The rains will dilute it considerably.  Please be careful.  It sounds like a dangerous situation to be taken seriously.  Mask off any vents to your house from outside, keep the windows rolled up in your car, and take precautions when going outdoors.


Thank you, but it is not that bad, and in the North of Moscow where I live I don't smell it or see it. There are real troubles in districts where it burns, they even closed some federal highways near N. Novgorod...

Weather forecast for tomorrow is rain. I hope it will help. We survived 2002 when it was much worse, so don't worry ;)
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Boroda on October 13, 2005, 11:31:40 AM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
0.1 km2 is not a freakin glacier mate.

This is a glacier:

(http://www.uniquelodges.co.nz/teweheka/images/glacier.jpg)


I have seen smaller glaciers in Siberia. All things at place, including a small beautiful moraine lake :) All maybe like 3 football fields...
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 13, 2005, 01:44:37 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
0.1 km2 is not a freakin glacier mate.


Sorry, far be it from me to define the level at which ice begins to flow.  I was relying on those who make a career on the study of glaciers.

I bow to your gut feeling.
Title: Weather changes
Post by: SuperDud on October 13, 2005, 11:33:17 PM
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Originally posted by Angus
Our Icelandic glaciers are retreating  


Retreating??? Pfffttttt...sissy glaciers:p :D
Title: Weather changes
Post by: Ripsnort on August 26, 2006, 09:07:33 AM
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Originally posted by Angus
Our Icelandic glaciers are retreating - yet we had the coldest September in a 120 years or so.
Greenland's glaciers are also retreating.

And some are growing due to global warming ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/5283278.stm