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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: john9001 on October 12, 2005, 03:54:47 PM
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i have problems with internet explorer, when i open a second window in explorer the CPU go's 100% and puter locks up, have tried many fixes, no joy.
so i d/l a free browser, ace explorer, and so far it works fine.
i did pick up a trojan a few weeks ago but i cleaned it.
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Firefox!
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First, get the Microsoft Anti-Spyware beta and run it on your system. If it finds and fixes anything, then throw a bunch of other stuff at the problem (like AdAware, etc) because they usually come in groups.
I also second Firefox, it's a GREAT browser.
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Firefox or Opera :)
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People are still wasting their time with IE?
Firefox, Firefox FIREFOX
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/)
But hey. dont beleive us
“Beware of spyware. If you can, use the Firefox browser.” - USA Today
“Better than Internet Explorer by leaps and bounds.” - FORBES
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I'm not the most computer liteate in the world.
But Firefox is my browser, Thunderbird is my email client.
Lavasoft anti spyware is my spyware prog.
And I deleted microsoft antispyware, lavasoft finds more stuff than theirs does.
NOD32 is my antivirus.
My neighbor told me that I'm safe enough for what I do.
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Once you have FireFox, you'll also want Adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org/).
It makes a good browser perfect. SOB pointed it out and he was dead on. It's tits.
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Opera now that its free its better than FireFox all around. I switched and loved it.
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I tried Opera for a week or so... didn't like it.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Once you have FireFox, you'll also want Adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org/).
It makes a good browser perfect. SOB pointed it out and he was dead on. It's tits.
Good call. had forgotten about that.
Dont forget "image zoom" too. and "add Bookmark here"
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Originally posted by Sandman
Once you have FireFox, you'll also want Adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org/).
It makes a good browser perfect. SOB pointed it out and he was dead on. It's tits.
And Remove It Perminantly is excellent for removing stuff that Adblock won't (mainly content that's local to a particular site) - worked great for removing the upgrade stuff at the top of the overview page in Ogame.
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I detest FireFox. I imagine anyone who has to do any WEB site work would. IE is only as bad as the person who uses it.
One day the world will decide to stick to standards and all will be well,...Oh..that was suppose to happen with HTML. Duh. Hey world! IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!:furious
Oh yeah, I am going to listen to some numpty reporter hollering, "HEY! How do I get it out of INSERT mode?"
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I detest FireFox. I imagine anyone who has to do any WEB site work would. IE is only as bad as the person who uses it.
On the contrary. As near as I can tell, Firefox is quite compliant with W3C standards.
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So far I havent had any problems at all with firefox, I used to use Netscape, but thats a major pain when it decides to dump all the bookmarks I had, and I still use IE, but I found firefox to run a little faster.
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Firefox is awesome.
Anyone know of any negative reason to not having as many extensions on it as you want? Are there memory or speed issues?
I love this browser!!!
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IE is great................if you want to tone it down to near nonuseable, then go through all the hassle everytime you wish to do something new.
I`m lazy. Started using Firefox quite some time ago and have never looked back.
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What's your problem with Firefox, Skuzzy? Just because it's different from IE, or is there something actually wrong with it from a programming standpoint?
I love it, and I can count on one finger the number of times I've used IE to view a webpage because it wouldn't work right with Firefox.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I detest FireFox. I imagine anyone who has to do any WEB site work would. IE is only as bad as the person who uses it.
One day the world will decide to stick to standards and all will be well,...Oh..that was suppose to happen with HTML. Duh. Hey world! IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!:furious
Oh yeah, I am going to listen to some numpty reporter hollering, "HEY! How do I get it out of INSERT mode?"
I rarely have any issues viewing pages with Firefox (can't remember any in recent history), but did have a few when I first started using it. Seemed to have more to do with the page in question being written for IE, rather than being written based on HTML standards.
I've never had any problem with my site working with Firefox, other than some differences in spacing and/or alignment as compared to IE.
What am I missing?
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I have lots of stuff that craps out if its not in IE. But its mainly security appliances (firewalls, ssl boxes, spam boxes) and their management consoles. I was considering going to Firefox but in the end stuck with IE. Between IE's finally getting popup blocking and my firewalls AV/AntiSpyware I'm happy now.
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Safari.
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Originally posted by Debonair
Safari.
What kind of mac do you have?
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ibook G4.
Finally found a trouble free 'nix machine.
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Nice!
I'm on a 12" Powerbook G4 now hooked up to a 19" LCD. Great OS (just dont tell Vulcan!).
Tiger or Panther? how much ram?
Running Opera and Safari depending.
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12", Tiger & a Gig of RAM.
Have you tried screwing around with Darwin or The Fink to get AH running?
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Im on Panther and only 512 ram... upgrading to 1250 ram and Tiger around xmas.
Nope, havent tried fiddeling to get AH running. Have you?
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Originally posted by Debonair
Safari.
Ahhhh yes the smug Mac users...
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/529945 Apple Mac OS X QuickDraw Manager fails to properly handle corrupt PICT files
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/650681 Apple Mac OS X ImageIO fails to properly handle corrupt GIF files
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/420316 Apple Mac OS X Safari vulnerable to arbitrary command execution via URLs in PDF files
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/709220 Apple Safari fails to perform security checks on links in rich text content
Thats just a few. Of course an Apple user will say theres no trojans, or spyware, but theres at least a couple of keyloggers, root kits etc out there, and no real way of detecting or removing them.
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I'm sure you will be able to afford a Mac sometime in the future Vulcan. We all know you are just jealous :p
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Yeahhhhh uh huh.
Honestly, they're not bad boxes. My pet beef with them is their overzealous uneducated users. The majority of them have this stupid idea that they don't need any AV, or AntiSpyware, that the built in firewall will save them from anything short of a full alien invasion.
We had one Mac laptop in the office last week that was generating DoS attacks and attempting to run what looked like a spam attack against a range of servers. The Mac users respons - no idea and just keep on using it.
Debonairs "Safari" is a typical Mac user response, I have safari, mac's are immune, I'm safe hahaha look at the silly PC users and their AV/Antispyware.
The day someone gets bored and writes a really bad worm for the Mac is the day Apple shares go through the floor. Because they just don't have to tools to deal with it.
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Debonair only answerd that he used Safari. That is a typical Mac user responce I must admit :D but he never said mac's are immune or safe. I havent either for that matter.
I think you read a littttttlebit too much into his very short "safari" answer. :)
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OSX is not too much more than fancied up BSD, quite likely vulnerable to even not so "leet haxors", but I'm happy to have a trouble free 'nix machine. In a previous career I was root on a modest network of sparc stations, if I was paranoid about security on my personal use laptop, I'd do something about it. Instead I've learned how to stop worrying & love the internet.
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Yup, its fancied up BSD, but they did a very good job at doing it imo.
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Indubitably
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Did you notice a big jump in performance when you upped the ram to 1 gig?
I seldom run multiple heavy programs myslef so im not sure if i will actually notice a big leap in performance.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Once you have FireFox, you'll also want Adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org/).
It makes a good browser perfect. SOB pointed it out and he was dead on. It's tits.
And the http://www.bugmenot.com plug in, never register to read a site again.
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Skuzzy,
I´m a web developer, and I mainly use Firefox because the DOM calls in Javascript is far more strict than IE... if it works in FF, it will work on almost any browser.
there are also some great tools for debuging your web apps with some FF plugins.
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One of the biggest pains about FF is its poor to abysmal cacheing implementation.
Dunt get me wrong. IE is a pain and you have to be careful to not fall into the trap of using MS proprietary things (although I do like being able to set the scrollbar colors).
I have to use FF as I do the WEB site here, and since I loaded it, I have found it to be a pain. Had to set the cache size to 0 in order to actually see what I am doing.
I constantly get complaints from people who use FF, such as when we release a patch to the game. They cannot see it unless they refresh the cache.
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Saw/Skuzzy
Any of you use Opera?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yup, its fancied up BSD, but they did a very good job at doing it imo.
Problem is when it works well its "OS X", when it doesn't its the "underlying BSD code" thats the problem.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Once you have FireFox, you'll also want Adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org/).
It makes a good browser perfect. SOB pointed it out and he was dead on. It's tits.
Apparently I'm too stooopud to find a DL here.
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I have not tried Opera.
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I've not had any problems with FF's cache. I wonder if people are getting it up-to-date though.
I use a combination of IE and FF. I use IE for websites I trust, for the firewalls, and any other browser based management such as printers. I won't use IE for anything else.
-SW
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I am using the latest version, and the cache drove me nuts untill I turned it off.
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
And the http://www.bugmenot.com plug in, never register to read a site again.
****! A plugin for bugmenot? That's awesome.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Did you notice a big jump in performance when you upped the ram to 1 gig?
I seldom run multiple heavy programs myslef so im not sure if i will actually notice a big leap in performance.
I run X-Plane & Targetware on my iBook, so I expect the extra RAM is of use to me, but I bought it with the extra 512kb installed so I'm not certain that I need it. Probably it will extend my machince's useful lifetime some.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I have to use FF as I do the WEB site here, and since I loaded it, I have found it to be a pain. Had to set the cache size to 0 in order to actually see what I am doing.
I constantly get complaints from people who use FF, such as when we release a patch to the game. They cannot see it unless they refresh the cache.
thats really weird cause I never have problems with the updates to the website with FF.
But I do get that problem when Im on AOHELL which uses IE
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Nilsen: not for a long time, I'll give it a look if you say it improved.
Skuzzy: Add a variable at the end of your page call (ie: index.php?var=foo *) should get rid of your problem if you're not talking about embeded Flash ... if you're talking about Flash... then indeed it's the poop.
* I just usualy pass the session id
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Nilsen: not for a long time, I'll give it a look if you say it improved.
Skuzzy: Add a variable at the end of your page call (ie: index.php?var=foo *) should get rid of your problem if you're not talking about embeded Flash ... if you're talking about Flash... then indeed it's the poop.
* I just usualy pass the session id
I used to hate it because of the ads and the bloated interface. Now its in version 8.5 without ads (yes its free now!) and it has become alot more user friendly. I love it and its the only browser i use on my wintel now.
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How long before the copy of Mosaic I have in a tarball on my HD starts to appreciate in value, because it is a 'classic'?
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I've never had any problems with IE so there is no reason to switch. Now Im using IE7 beta at home. Works fine.
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Originally posted by dmf
So far I havent had any problems at all with firefox, I used to use Netscape, but thats a major pain when it decides to dump all the bookmarks I had, and I still use IE, but I found firefox to run a little faster.
Wow, nearly 50 posts and dmf was the only person to mention Netscape.
I use Netscape 7.2. I like the way it manages bookmarks - better than IE which couldn't seem to keep them in order. I very much like the tabbed browsing features.
I tried N8.0 but didn't like the "themes" (or is it "skins"? :rolleyes: ), and it didn't have the Upload function for uploading files to your webspace, so I went back to N7.2.
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Beet, you sound like my dad when he speaks of "this internet thing".
*giggles*
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I'm probably older than your dad. :p
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Originally posted by mipoikel
I've never had any problems with IE so there is no reason to switch. Now Im using IE7 beta at home. Works fine.
Switch because IE is another attempt by Microsoft to take over the World! :D
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Originally posted by beet1e
I'm probably older than your dad. :p
comfortable retirement home, i hope:p
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Originally posted by beet1e
Wow, nearly 50 posts and dmf was the only person to mention Netscape.
Actually... no.
FireFox is netscape. Or is netscape firefox? Basically, Netscape sponsored an open source re-write of their browser, Firefox is the end result.
Download FireFox, it's the same browser without as much bloat (Netscape added a bunch of stuff to the Netscape branded version of it).
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I tried FireFox but didn't like it. I can't remember why not. But I love NS7.2. :cool:
Originally posted by vorticon
comfortable retirement home, i hope:p
Yes! My own home. You're all mean to me! Urchin said it best when he desribed me as the "world's oldest prettythanghat" - LOL