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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Morpheus on October 13, 2005, 02:12:57 PM
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Yes that's right... It's time.
I'd like to draw up a game plan... Say for 10 furballer's from each side... Rook, Bish, Knight. Ten is all I'd need, but more, is always good. Squads who are willing to participate are welcome ofcourse. But, if you're looking to take a base, dont waste our time. We're not taking bases here.
These ten players from each side would have one goal in mind. Kill all strat, namely ord (bombs) along the front line bases of a fight. This in turn will make for a bomb free furball area. At no point where a Fighter Hanger be harmed here. Or any hangers for that mater.
I'd say prime time, will be ideal for this. Like I said, more is good.
Get up, say heavy La7's 1-2 participants from each side of the ten players will make way to their respective objectvies and kill Ord. We do not need anything heavier than an La7... What you miss or do not take down with bombs you can extend out at 550mph and come back straffing. When your out of ammo or all your objectives for your feild is accomplished you may vulch at your leisure and or auger... To return to your furball.
We will not hit towns. We will not hit hangers. Troops are secondary to taking ordinance down. You will not engage. If you are engaged by a con level out and or dive for speed and get to the objective asap. That is the ROE.
We will communicate accorss countries via private text and or a vox channel above 200 which will change randomly.
Thank you.
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toolshed porking dweeb!
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Count me in. Just let me know the Bat-time and Bat-channel!
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Without a map thats designed like the donut, I think this would just effect the rest of the map too much. Theres enough porking as it is.
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WOOOT! Good deal.
I do beleive shane, is in on it too!
Without a map thats designed like the donut, I think this would just effect the rest of the map too much. Theres enough porking as it is.
Yes porking. But they're porking all the wrong things my son. And I do want to effect the rest of the map. That is my ultimate goal here.
You'll be able to fly, but you wont be taking any bombs.
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heh, was gona do this anyway. IN!!
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the problem with this little exercise? Huh?
There are two problems.
One, there aren't thiry furballers in this game that can work together for a common goal for more than half an hour. It's an attention span thing.
Second, one word:
resupply.
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Resuply?
How? Not without troops. Thanks for reminding me of that. Silly little oversight.
As far as working together, that's simple. How would you know? You go out of your way to avoid them at all costs. You'ev never seen what they can do. :aok
So I wouldnt worry too much. Sherbert.
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Originally posted by rshubert
the problem with this little exercise? Huh?
There are two problems.
One, there aren't thiry furballers in this game that can work together for a common goal for more than half an hour. It's an attention span thing.
Second, one word:
resupply.
Good, we wont see any posts about how we effect the game then.:aok
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Im in but when do we kill each other? :D
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there is about 26 in my squad, and on average we have 6-12 people a night, we work together just fine...thank you. thats about a 1/3rd of what you asking for.:aok
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Remember troops are very simple to take out. Small air feilds, there is only one. Large/medium, devide and conquer among the 2 planes sent out to those fields as well. So taking down suplies at the fields will not be a problem at all. Most times you bish pork troops regardless... So for the players on the bishop side who are in on this plan, they'll most likely only need to take down ord at Rook And Knight feilds.
The work can be done in a very timely fashion due to the fact that we're going to be in fast moving La7's. 1 bomb per target, then straffe. Easily taking out all ord and troops at a given air field.
Now, the reason we need players from each side is so that each side can be respectively porked.
I have no doubt we will be able to recruit enough from each side for this task. Remember, lots of poop, in, your sand box.
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You have got to be kidding me right?????? OK fair is fair I guess.:aok
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If you say I make you jerkoffs suffer, so be it. I'll make you suffer.
Somebody made Morph feel bad. Have fun.
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:rolleyes:
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Hey Morph,
We have a little problem man. What if they try to stop us . . .errr, never mind. Buildings don't fight back :rofl
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Our battle cry can be found within the lyrics of this film.
WOOOOWOOOO!! (http://www.furballunderground.com/die.wmv)
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i dont know which buiildingds are ord or all that toolshed hero crap but i'm in. Just sh0w me where to point and click :aok
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Originally posted by megadud
i dont know which buiildingds are ord or all that toolshed hero crap but i'm in. Just sh0w me where to point and click :aok
Drop troops at the tower. They will start running around and blow up everything on site
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Yum - i got lots of dates set up with my manned ack :)
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Originally posted by dedalos
Drop troops at the tower. They will start running around and blow up everything on site
what if enemy troops come out and shoot them>?
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Originally posted by megadud
what if enemy troops come out and shoot them>?
Read the thread dumars. We will be killing troops first :rolleyes:
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Lol... so the furballers are actually going to play the strat way to achieve their goal of keeping the hangars alive :D What next? Shall we hear about a furballer plan to climb higher and defend the bases against buffs and jabos or about a bombing mission to kill the enemy resources? :rofl :aok
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I cannot wait to hear the whines. God bless you people. We havent even begun and already you're whinning. :)
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BLAH BLAH BLAH WWAAA WWAA WHIMPER SNIFF
BOO HOO
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You'll never make it.:lol
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Originally posted by rshubert
the problem with this little exercise? Huh?
There are two problems.
One, there aren't thiry furballers in this game that can work together for a common goal for more than half an hour. It's an attention span thing.
Second, one word:
resupply.
One, you didn't hear about the Rook/Knit joint ops for FT, did you?
Second, With what will you resupply?
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Yes that's right... It's time.
I'd like to draw up a game plan... Say for 10 furballer's from each side... Rook, Bish, Knight. Ten is all I'd need, but more, is always good. Squads who are willing to participate are welcome ofcourse. But, if you're looking to take a base, dont waste our time. We're not taking bases here.
These ten players from each side would have one goal in mind. Kill all strat, namely ord (bombs) along the front line bases of a fight. This in turn will make for a bomb free furball area. At no point where a Fighter Hanger be harmed here. Or any hangers for that mater.
I'd say prime time, will be ideal for this. Like I said, more is good.
Get up, say heavy La7's 1-2 participants from each side of the ten players will make way to their respective objectvies and kill Ord. We do not need anything heavier than an La7... What you miss or do not take down with bombs you can extend out at 550mph and come back straffing. When your out of ammo or all your objectives for your feild is accomplished you may vulch at your leisure and or auger... To return to your furball.
We will not hit towns. We will not hit hangers. Troops are secondary to taking ordinance down. You will not engage. If you are engaged by a con level out and or dive for speed and get to the objective asap. That is the ROE.
We will communicate accorss countries via private text and or a vox channel above 200 which will change randomly.
Thank you.
Pretty sure this goes on anyway.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
If you are engaged by a con level out and or dive for speed and get to the objective asap. That is the ROE.
Never happen - first sign of a con on your 6 - you guys will start trembling and one eye will roll back in your head...trying to resisist the urge to fight...
you guys will be dropping ord and instinctly flying in circles waiting for someone to clear your six at the first sign of what might be an nme plane.
then there will be the calls of "big man - shooting down a heavy (insert ride here)" when you get shot down...
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Originally posted by FBBone
One, you didn't hear about the Rook/Knit joint ops for FT, did you?
Second, With what will you resupply?
hehe, so i got the FB's? Noice...noice. Three squads so far. :aok
PS Waffle- We've had plenty of lessons in running from watching toolsheder warriors as they flee in horror from us. We'll do just fine thanks!:)
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The old "If you wont let us play our way, we'll play your way" ploy.
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No not at all.
really its the old... "If we cant have our fun because of you, then no one will.":aok
That and Im dying to hear the whines.
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So let me see if I follow.
Some heavies play the strat game, this disrupts your game play...
So you will play the strat game to disrupt THEIR strat game so that they do not disrupt your game play?
sounds like a big circle jerk... Im in
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Carefull Morph, you may knock a few guys who like doing a mix of things off the fence. They could well end up on the side of the tooshed killers.
I personally have not bombed fightertown, nor killed a hanger in main in months.
While I do like the relaxing side trip to a strat object from time to time. Or even leveling a city in a A20 now & then. I make it a point to never take away from your fun. You threatening to take away from others may come back to bite you.
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Originally posted by ballgag
So let me see if I follow.
Some heavies play the strat game, this disrupts your game play...
So you will play the strat game to disrupt THEIR strat game so that they do not disrupt your game play?
sounds like a big circle jerk... Im in
You might want to loosen the leather mask and ball gag, it's constricting the air flow to your brain.
The issue is not those that want to capture bases or bomb strat targets, the issue that those that actively try and prevent a segment of the player base from engaging in activities these Tool Shedders don't want them doing, i.e. Furballing. It's really not that hard of an issue to grasp and it really surprises me that most of those just can't seem to fathom something so simple.
Bombing the FHs in the furball area of the Donut map does nothing other than grief part of the player base. It's that simple.
Now why do Tool Shedders engage in this activity? Well, other than being complete and utter stunninghunks, they are bitter because they believe they must win "THE WAR" and try to discourage any sort of game play that detracts from winning "THE WAR".
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Morpheus
hehe, so i got the FB's? Noice...noice. Three squads so far. :aok
PS Waffle- We've had plenty of lessons in running from watching toolsheder warriors as they flee in horror from us. We'll do just fine thanks!:)
Whoa there Sunshine!!! I'm just one member and can't speak for the whole squad. BUT, porkin in a La7, well thats just fun and I'm........
..........IN!!!!11!!1:aok
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You might want to loosen the leather mask and ball gag, it's constricting the air flow to your brain.
HA! that's original... it's like we're in grade school all over again
The issue is not those that want to capture bases or bomb strat targets, the issue that those that actively try and prevent a segment of the player base from engaging in activities these Tool Shedders don't want them doing, i.e. Furballing. It's really not that hard of an issue to grasp and it really surprises me that most of those just can't seem to fathom something so simple.
Oh I grasped it, I also grasped the incredible irony, something aparently lost on you.
They destroy your resources because you're not playing the game the way they want you to, so you kill their resources because they are... hell ... nevermind...
Bombing the FHs in the furball area of the Donut map does nothing other than grief part of the player base. It's that simple.
War is hell!
for what it's worth, I agree with you, let kill the sons a biotches!
I mean, this is a war game right, its not like we're playing online bunko
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Originally posted by sullie363
Pretty sure this goes on anyway.
LOL. Funny you said that. After viper215's response I was just thinking you guys are naturals. :lol
Ps... I don't know who ballgag is but he's craking me up! :lol Come on bud let's beotch slap'em! :rofl
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Originally posted by ballgag
Oh I grasped it, I also grasped the incredible irony, something aparently lost on you.
No, the irony isn't lost because there really isn't one to begin with. I don't agree with the plans on porking the front line bases and IMO, just as wrong as the Tool Shedders porking the FHs in the furball zone.
So, keep chokin' on that ball gag.
ack-ack
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Here's a radical idea, why don't the furballers unite to kill the toolshedders?
Oh, yea, that would require going above 6k and flying something faster than a Spit5, Hurri or La7 above 12k. Sorry I brought it up.
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So, keep chokin' on that ball gag.
YES! do you write your own material? that is fantastic! ... not really
No, the irony isn't lost because there really isn't one to begin with.
ummmm.... I think this completely supports my statement about the irony of the situation, which is quite hilarious to me, being lost on you... thank you
Let me esplain...
You see, these evil sons a biotches are playin this war game and they are all pissy because you and your cohorts just want to fly around and kill eachother peacefully without engaging in the broader aspects of the game, namely strat and the good and pure pursuit of 'Winning the War'
So to combat your self indulgence they fly over and bomb your ***** ruining your fun, which is a very small piece of irony in and of itself because thats kinda what happens in real war, people piss other people off by ruining their fun inciting said people to rise up in defence of their very way of life!
But I digress
For this situation the irony goes MUCH deeper. In self riteous indignation those who have been shat upon declare that they will teach those evil strat guys a lesson
By using... strat...
which is kinda what they wanted you to do in the first place, quit furballing and play strat... get it? Ironic eh?
Unlike you I can not come up with any clever derision for your user name, damn the bad luck...
(http://sandlakeduners.com/forum/images/smiles/fu.gif)
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Originally posted by JB42
Here's a radical idea, why don't the furballers unite to kill the toolshedders?
Oh, yea, that would require going above 6k and flying something faster than a Spit5, Hurri or La7 above 12k. Sorry I brought it up.
Been there done that. Actually on a nightly basis.
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Originally posted by rshubert
the problem with this little exercise? Huh?
There are two problems.
One, there aren't thiry furballers in this game that can work together for a common goal for more than half an hour. It's an attention span thing.
Really, you missed the festivities Monday night. Do you just choose to play dumb?
Karaya
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Its a non tactic..... it actually is anti attack ac not anti bomber.
Attack aircraft and buff suicide dweebs use forward base ordinance...not bombers
Following instructions are those to pork FH's at any field other than a large field.
1) select a field more than 2 sectors back from the front line.
2) select b24 loadout 4 x 2000lbs 50% fuel enable formation.
3)Launch via a dog legged route that puts you at 20K as you ingress through enemy radar.
4) select ingress route that lines up any 2 x FH.
5) go put the kettle on and take the dog for a walk......do crossword, answer out standing mail, file income tax return plan next years holiday.
6)as you approach enemy radar suggest politley on green that it would be nice if someone could take it out.
7)You are driving from the forward gun position in external view. All your course alterations will be via rudder from this view. This is the most accurate steerage with mininum e loss. You will use auto speed to set climb rate.
8) Crossing enemy radar select auto level (never leaving front gunner pos)
9)Just after crossing enemy radar boundry zoom in from your external front gunner view and look for the field. You will pick it from a long way out and be able to gently rudder to perfect angle.
10)Go to F6 view open doors and select clipboard bring up the E6B and shink the clipboard so it sits neatly in the corner of your screen whilst you can still see the cross hairs.
11)Calibrate the bomb site checking the calibrated speed against the E6B speed.
12) Check that you have salvo =1 and .05 delay
13) once calibration and E6B are stabalised fettle throttle to hold E6B at the calibrated speed.
14) zoom in and release bomb as cross hair crosses each of you 1st pass FH's (dont worry you will not miss............its accuracy is absolute)
15) return to the front gunner external and begin a long rudder turn nearly out to the radar extreme and round to take angle on the remain FH or pair of FH's if a medium field( for good order on small feilds take the VH out with the remaining FH)
16) rinse and repeat ingress and continue home.
The only way you will be thwarted in this mission is if some fighter actually tries to come to attack you. But lately they rarely do.......they post here instead.
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Originally posted by Tilt
The only way you will be thwarted in this mission is if some fighter actually tries to come to attack you. But lately they rarely do.......they post here instead.
:D :aok ...signature material!
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You Furbs couldn't organize a boys club fund raising car wash even with a year of planning... Your entire existence is built around killing each other for fun and sport, team work is a theory you long gave up on! Of course you could use the funds raised at the car wash to pay some tollshed killing squad to do it for you!
TJ
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No offense...but Id have to agree with Skyrock. When do you plan to fight eachother? You could start off the night doing this. But a deep raid would take a few minutes to do.
Then even if you all auger, you would have very little time before ord and troops would be available somewhere. So you'd have to stop and do it all over again.
You'd be amazed at how boring it can be. Im of the opinion that folks that only want to furball, wouldnt have alot of fun doing this for long. And worst of all, you will end up with every guy in here who likes to bomb, suddenly bombing every FH on the front. You see, the bombers only have to worry about the front line FHs to be a pain, while the fighters would have to hit very deep, every base to affect the bomber guys.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You might want to loosen the leather mask and ball gag, it's constricting the air flow to your brain.
The issue is not those that want to capture bases or bomb strat targets, the issue that those that actively try and prevent a segment of the player base from engaging in activities these Tool Shedders don't want them doing, i.e. Furballing. It's really not that hard of an issue to grasp and it really surprises me that most of those just can't seem to fathom something so simple.
Bombing the FHs in the furball area of the Donut map does nothing other than grief part of the player base. It's that simple.
Now why do Tool Shedders engage in this activity? Well, other than being complete and utter stunninghunks, they are bitter because they believe they must win "THE WAR" and try to discourage any sort of game play that detracts from winning "THE WAR".
ack-ack
Actually I beleive they do it because they can and not due to any specific desire to ruin things for the furballers.
Well for some yea maybe. but not for most.
Donut map as I said it was a pretty lame thing to do.
The other maps well look at tank town. you alway have those in the tank towns that have to go for the capture.
So long as the bases can be captured . people will try to capture them.
the rest of the maps I explained in another thread my observations about how furballs happen.
In those cases they arent out to specifically ruin it for furballers but are only doing what they were trying to do in the first place that started the furball. Capture the base.
That is why that outside of the donut map where I am in complete agreement.
With the rest of the maps I am completely unsympothetic to the furballers complaints. As a the Furball is nothing more then part of the evolution of the basecapture attempt.
On the Donut map is an entirely different story. The FT area is obvious was specifically designed for the furballers. and IMO it was wrong for what happened to have happened.
But so long as those bases remain easy to capture there will be some that go for it.
I also made suggestions to make them harder to capture.
Move the towns up high on a cliff and closely surround each of them with strat targets that shoot back both with puffy and laser ack. Also have a friendly GV spawn area right into the town.
secondly. make sure the troops at all those bases at the donut map FT remain porked.
Again making the town harder to capture. Remember getting goons to 17-20 K is time consuming. If the measures I have mentioned are put into effect it is going ot take a super amount of effort to co ordinate the type of an attack that will make it captureable.
Would take a combination of
the VH's being down. the Strat ack being down. the town ack being down. the town itself being down and a perfect drop of troops on the town all at the same time.
Not an easy task even for a horde
On another note I've seen it mentioned that troops be porked at all the forward feilds.
Often they are that way now.
To be effective for any kind of real length of time, you have to pork the troops 2-4 bases deep or the bases can be resupplied relitively quickly by a determined group of individuals in M3s
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Carefull Morph, you may knock a few guys who like doing a mix of things off the fence. They could well end up on the side of the tooshed killers.
I personally have not bombed fightertown, nor killed a hanger in main in months.
While I do like the relaxing side trip to a strat object from time to time. Or even leveling a city in a A20 now & then. I make it a point to never take away from your fun. You threatening to take away from others may come back to bite you.
yeah .... what Ghosth said.
Dave
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morph... what you suggest is the third or fourth most boring thing a person could do in this game...
first would be to actually play the strat game to "win the war" second would be to defend against the strat players and third would probly be GV's
It is a huge sacrafice for those who would play to have fun and are not yourop ean or gay or for those of us who own a joystick and maybe rudders and a throttle..
The only advantage to this whole idea is that it will be a wakeup slap in the face to the 90% of the strat girls in the game who don't even know this board exists.
The sacrafice in fun may be made up by the squeals from these mouse wielders as they see their hawiian vacation and 25 (yes TWENTY FIVE) huge perk points chances evoporate...
Their squeals will be like the music of the liberals after kerrie lost..
The attention called to the basic problem of unbalance between air combat and skilless strat might be useful tho...
It might work.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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So how did the vendetta go? I didn't notice any difference last night. Or is it supposed to be tonight? :lol
Regards
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i didnt know said last night?
morph... what you suggest is the third or fourth most boring thing a person could do in this game...
Maybe so but you got the first wrong.
Having no FH's is the first.
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It warms my hart to still see folks pissin and moaning about Monday night's FT fun. I think every time that map comes into rotation it should happen. Yes furballing is fun, but taking bases for perkis is much better. The thing more fun and entertaining is vulching and cherrypicking(especially a smoking 262 on final).
try and stop me
jolly
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taking bases for perks is much better? How?
I get 6-7, or 10 kills in a 38 and that's well over 25 perks.:aok
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Originally posted by FiLtH
You could start off the night doing this. But a deep raid would take a few minutes to do.
Then even if you all auger, you would have very little time before ord and troops would be available somewhere. So you'd have to stop and do it all over again.
You'd be amazed at how boring it can be. Im of the opinion that folks that only want to furball, wouldnt have alot of fun doing this for long.
That's why we just like to fight. All that 'war' crap is boring and repetitive beyond belief. No it's not fun for us that's why we don't do it.
Yet straters still can't get the concept that us fighting each other doesn't cost them anything. They can bomb stuff all night away from the furball.
Originally posted by jollyFE
It warms my hart to still see folks pissin and moaning about Monday night's FT fun. I think every time that map comes into rotation it should happen. Yes furballing is fun, but taking bases for perkis is much better. The thing more fun and entertaining is vulching and cherrypicking(especially a smoking 262 on final).
try and stop me
jolly
Criminally ignorant.
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Originally posted by lazs2
The sacrafice in fun may be made up by the squeals from these mouse wielders as they see their hawiian vacation and 25 (yes TWENTY FIVE) huge perk points chances evoporate...
WOW!!! 25 perk points! I'm in. Where's the nearest bomber hangar. Yo! Fire up the engines, I'ma comin'.
You know, instead of all this crap talk and evil plotting, we might hold a big stick and a carrot over everyone's head.
OK, I'll start it off. "I as a dedicated GV'er who enjoys Tank Town, and a somewhat less dedicated teamwork-oriented Win-The-War type, I hereby promise NOT to take big 2000 pounders up contineously and drop them all day long on Furball-Land hangars... SO LONG AS no one ups bombers over Tank Town nor tries to capture the supporting vehicle bases."
You're all good at fighting -- at least with words -- how good are you at truces?
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Originally posted by lazs2
the basic problem of unbalance between air combat and skilless strat
:rofl
Hap