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Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Boroda on October 16, 2005, 11:05:22 AM
Any links to first-hand accounts? What really happened there? Who were that "neo-nazis" as they are called in Russian news?

Or did I miss a topic here already?
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Hangtime on October 16, 2005, 11:23:53 AM
Not the slightest clue to what yer refering to Boroda... I musta missed it too.

Gotta link (in english)?
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: ASTAC on October 16, 2005, 11:30:36 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172387,00.html

Why totally free speech really is a bad idea sometimes.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: megadud on October 16, 2005, 11:30:56 AM
hahahah god bless ohio (http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/15/nazi.march/index.html)

that's all we do in this state is riot and root for crappy sports teams!! hell yea! wooot!@ :aok :rofl
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Boroda on October 16, 2005, 11:31:46 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Not the slightest clue to what yer refering to Boroda... I musta missed it too.

Gotta link (in english)?


That's why I ask here...

What our news reported: there was a "demonstration" of neo-nazis there, and black activists (i don't remember a correct word they used on TV, was something at least as stupid) broke it up, starting a riot on their own, burning cars and robbing shops.

People who live in the US said it didn't reach media headlines.

Some pictures I stole from one livejournal:

(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0510/gallery.nazi.march/images/gall.06.salute.ap.jpg)

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/OHJP11610152324.jpeg)

(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0510/gallery.nazi.march/images/gall.08.upturned.ap.jpg)
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: lazs2 on October 16, 2005, 11:55:00 AM
not really any worse than jesse jackson or the riots that happen when one or the other basketball team wins.

lazs
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: ASTAC on October 16, 2005, 11:59:50 AM
I tell ya....If any of my property was ever damaged because people can't behave themselves, there would be a one man crime spree...I'll kill, maim or otherwise injure anyone who even looked like the people that did it..black, white, yellow, brown or whatever.

What I don't get is that they are not "socialists" at all....just racists..they are so ignorant they don't even know the definition of their party name.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Gunslinger on October 16, 2005, 12:29:03 PM
I sense this thread being closed soon.  I'd ad my opinion but it would just sound like racial rethoric instead of a factual statement.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: FUNKED1 on October 16, 2005, 12:32:39 PM
Nazis 1 Blacks 0
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Gunslinger on October 16, 2005, 12:41:21 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Nazis 1 Blacks 0


yup that's about it.  The Neo-Nazis proved their point without having to make much effort.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Boroda on October 16, 2005, 02:11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I sense this thread being closed soon.  I'd ad my opinion but it would just sound like racial rethoric instead of a factual statement.


That's one of the reasons why I asked for links.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Gunslinger on October 16, 2005, 02:46:00 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
That's one of the reasons why I asked for links.


Boroda it doesn not matter if I link to a news story about Blacks behaving like thrid world protesters......just the fact that a white guy brought it up indicates racism (even if it's just on the sub-concious level)

Blacks in the US have gotten a major pass in this country for the last 20 years for their "CULTURAL" problems because anyone that speaks up is branded a racist or if you are black and speak up you are an Uncle Tom.  

SO with that rant I post no news link because it would be a waist of time.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Suave on October 16, 2005, 04:27:40 PM
It was front page news here on every major news network. Whoever told you it wasn't must have a shorter attention span than I do.

Oh and ASTAC  the nazi party is socialist. Nazi literaly meant National Socialist German Workers party I think.

If they want to be nationalistic socialists why don't they just join the republican or democratic party?
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: john9001 on October 16, 2005, 04:43:41 PM
i'm not sure who the "racists" were here, the neo-nazis who were protesting the gang vilolence in the area or the black gangs that threw rocks at police, burned cars, bussiness's and looted?

the local NAACP told the blacks not to interfear with the march.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Suave on October 16, 2005, 04:48:15 PM
You're not sure if Nazis are racists ?
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2005, 04:52:55 PM
The name National Socialist was a play on words back in Germany.  

It's kind of like saying Democratic Republican.  It's an oxymoron.  However, it worked and garnered a lot of attention and support.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Gunslinger on October 16, 2005, 04:59:41 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
You're not sure if Nazis are racists ?


Sure they are.....but it turns out their racism had a valid point this weekend.....and it proved itself better then they could have dreamed of.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: SOB on October 16, 2005, 06:12:23 PM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
I tell ya....If any of my property was ever damaged because people can't behave themselves, there would be a one man crime spree...I'll kill, maim or otherwise injure anyone who even looked like the people that did it..black, white, yellow, brown or whatever.

Seek help.  Now.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: RightF00T on October 16, 2005, 06:24:07 PM
I feel like, what happened unfortunately in Toledo is the result of people simply not knowing the proper way to deal with a conflict.  If you deal with everyday problems with your fists and brute force, something like this is gonna cause you to go over the edge.  I doubt this would have happened in an educated part of town.  And I believe the Neo-Nazis knew this.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: NUKE on October 16, 2005, 06:25:39 PM
what happened was no big deal, and it was reported. I saw it on the news right away.

It's just not that big of a news story.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2005, 06:46:19 PM
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I feel like, what happened unfortunately in Toledo is the result of people simply not knowing the proper way to deal with a conflict. If you deal with everyday problems with your fists and brute force, something like this is gonna cause you to go over the edge. I doubt this would have happened in an educated part of town. And I believe the Neo-Nazis knew this.


Please, read what happened.  

This was not a riot of Nazis vs. Gang members.  Not even close.

It's hard for it to be a fight between the two when the Nazis aren't even there.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Gunslinger on October 16, 2005, 06:53:45 PM
Yup What sailor said.  The Nazis were planning a constitutionally protected ralley wich they had a permit for to protest the recent black gang violence.  Like the Nazis or not they have the right to peacibly assemble.  

Blacks showed up in force to counterprotest and the Nazis called off their ralley.  THen the Blacks started rioting and looting.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: ASTAC on October 16, 2005, 07:23:10 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
Seek help.  Now.


Why? Because I'd be justified as being an innocent victim of other people's misbehavior?
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Yeager on October 16, 2005, 08:23:55 PM
made the national news this sunday evening.  Its really nothing big, just another neo nazi rally gone bad....some people just have a bad reaction to the red armband with the white circle and swastika........

The only thing thats really interesting about it is how poorly those folks behaved long after the nazi wannabes had split.  The cops WILL shoot you when you throw stuff at them hehe
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2005, 08:27:55 PM
This wasn't a neo nazi rally gone bad.

The nazis barely had a rally.



I could tell you what really happened, but I'd probably be branded as racist.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: MrCoffee on October 16, 2005, 11:37:19 PM
wait a minute, I thought the allies destroyed the nazis in wwII.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: SOB on October 16, 2005, 11:38:20 PM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Why? Because I'd be justified as being an innocent victim of other people's misbehavior?

No, I was kinda thinking because you'd feel justified in maiming and/or killing anyone who even resembled the people who wronged you.  Should I ever find myself near you when something tragic happens, I hope I remember to excuse myself from the general vicinity before you start with your revenge-seeking.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: RightF00T on October 17, 2005, 12:57:28 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Please, read what happened.  

This was not a riot of Nazis vs. Gang members.  Not even close.

It's hard for it to be a fight between the two when the Nazis aren't even there.


I said nothing about gangmembers.
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: moot on October 17, 2005, 05:16:00 AM
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peacibly assemble.

(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0510/gallery.nazi.march/images/gall.06.salute.ap.jpg)
(http://taenia.homestead.com/files/peace.jpg)
(http://taenia.homestead.com/files/paece.jpg)
:lol
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Eagler on October 17, 2005, 06:04:43 AM
ignorance is color blind
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: Gunslinger on October 17, 2005, 08:41:34 AM
even if you don't agre with their message they still have the right to peacibly assemble.

Seriously what's the difference between them and Black Panther rallies and such?
Title: Toledo, Ohio
Post by: boxboy28 on October 17, 2005, 09:13:40 AM
Skin heads.......not very bright individuals!  but in this case they got lucky.