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Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on October 17, 2005, 03:01:15 PM
http://www.21stcenturytoys.com/productDetails.asp?productID=752


I was at the local wal-mart today and seen these planes.

They had a Me-262,190-D,P-47,Bf-109-E,and a P-51.

I picked up the Limited edition 343rd Fighter SQuadron P-51 for my son.

The 14./JG26 190-D i picked up for myself.

Pretty cool suff if ya  have desk top models and such.

All planes are 1:18 scale

More links.http://www.21stcenturytoys.com/productDetails.asp?productID=740

http://www.21stcenturytoys.com/productDetails.asp?productID=703
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: megadud on October 17, 2005, 03:03:38 PM
neat stuff, how big are they? i don't know what 1:32 means because i'm a tard

sdud has a model spit, i think i'm going to steal it...
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Furball on October 17, 2005, 03:21:30 PM
1 unit of measurement on the model = 32 on the real thing.

so 1cm = 32cm on real thing.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: megadud on October 17, 2005, 03:28:23 PM
danke :aok
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Pooh21 on October 17, 2005, 03:32:11 PM
How much they cost


The Stuka they have looks pretty sweet
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: wylieboy on October 17, 2005, 03:37:31 PM
yeah I like those I have the Me109,Me262,P-51,and the P-40
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: slimm50 on October 17, 2005, 03:43:38 PM
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Originally posted by megadud
i don't know what 1:32 means because i'm a tard

Y'know, I almost believe you...:rolleyes:
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: megadud on October 17, 2005, 03:48:09 PM
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Originally posted by slimm50
Y'know, I almost believe you...:rolleyes:


hehe :D
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: SKJohn on October 17, 2005, 03:56:15 PM
I've seen those, but they are huge!  They won't fit on most normal shelves, I don't know where you'd store them.  Just a guesstimate, but the FW-190D I saw at Wal-mart the other day, had a wingspan that had to be at least 2 feet.

Now, if you could buy them as toys "for the kids..."  - (after all, they are in the toy department...) then how could your wife complain?  THen of course, you could take them up once in a while for cat-buzzing missions....
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Treize69 on October 17, 2005, 04:50:56 PM
I think theyre bigger than 1:32, the P-38 is about half again as big as the 1:32 droopsnoot I have.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on October 17, 2005, 07:09:55 PM
I've seen those, but they are huge! They won't fit on most normal shelves, I don't know where you'd store them. Just a guesstimate, but the FW-190D I saw at Wal-mart the other day, had a wingspan that had to be at least 2 feet.

Now, if you could buy them as toys "for the kids..." - (after all, they are in the toy department...) then how could your wife complain? THen of course, you could take them up once in a while for cat-buzzing




I measured the 190s wingspan and its 12 inches.

My wife left me in the isle by myself when i started climbing the shelves
after the 109-E-4 night fighter.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Midnight on October 17, 2005, 08:48:46 PM
I have a few of these things, P51, 109, JU87, P38, F4U

Now, the box says they are all 1:18 scale, but there is a major difference in the scaling of the pilots and cockpits. If you take the P-51 or 109 pilots and put them aside the Ju87, P38, F4U pilots, they look like children in comparison. I wrote 21st Century and thy said the scaling is correct... HA

Also, These things are not toys, even though they are sold as such. The quality of plastic and final construction is very poor. It would be WAY to easy to break these if they were played with.

Now that I have them, I really think they aren't worth having. They are too big to put on a normal shelf and are horrible dust collectors.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on October 17, 2005, 10:52:53 PM
I dont know midnight,my 6 year old son flew the plane pretty much all
day.He made several well cordinated Jabo attacks on the cat.Vulched
barbie in her Corvette.Take it out of the box and check it out,you'll see that they are rather durable toys.Nothing like i had when i was growing up,But
then again i havnt grown up yet.

Its amazing how they are using pilot names of the not so popular aces.
Wal-Mart has smaller scale P-38 silver in color with a picture of a woman
that looks exactly like Dick Bongs wife.But yet it doesnt have his name on the plane anywhere,it even has 40 rising sun flags on the fuelselage.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: ROC on October 17, 2005, 11:12:05 PM
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i don't know what 1:32 means because i'm a tard


Our public school tax dollars at work.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: SKJohn on October 18, 2005, 12:58:30 AM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot


I measured the 190s wingspan and its 12 inches.

My wife left me in the isle by myself when i started climbing the shelves
after the 109-E-4 night fighter.


At our local WallyWorld, they have the same models in both 1:32, and 1:18 scale.  Yes, the wingspan of the the 1:32 models is about 12 inches - I've got a few of those myself.  The 1:18 models are twice the size.  Look for the BIG boxes a few shelves higher....
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on October 18, 2005, 01:19:04 AM
thanks SKjohn will be checkin that out tomarrow.
Title: ...
Post by: Haze22 on October 18, 2005, 02:48:26 AM
Are these models or do they come pre-assembled?

models would be cool , im not into the die-cast stuff all that much but they still would look nice as a full collection.

TY for making this thread, im gonna take a look next time im in Wally world.


Haze22
242 Squadron


"Remember this. For every precious thing i lose, you will lose two"-Stephen White
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on October 18, 2005, 07:47:41 AM
there is some slight assembly haze,but its not that bad.
Title: Re: ...
Post by: SkyWolf on October 18, 2005, 08:06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Haze22

TY for making this thread, im gonna take a look next time im in Wally world.

 


You can also get deals on Ebay sometimes. Always lots for sale, sometimes the rare ones, but they often end up selling for quite a bit more than at Skankmart. But my "super" Skankmart only has one at a time about twice a year.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: HornetNZ on October 19, 2005, 01:09:10 AM
I like the Matchbox Collectible airplane series. Diecast and detailed very nice...and smaller, about 5 inch wingspan. About $12. They are harder to find now in stores...Target and some other chains used to carry them. Heres someplace that has most of the sets...
http://www.flyingmule.com/range/diecast_model/aircraft/matchbox_collectibles/
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: cav58d on October 19, 2005, 01:20:29 AM
The FLAK PANZER IS AWESOME!!!!!!!  cant wait for summer....TAKE THAT VULCHER DWEEB MOSQUITOES...AHHHGHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: cav58d on October 19, 2005, 01:21:58 AM
Wow cool...anyone notice that the gunnery armor on the Flak Panzer retracts?  HTC please not and fix our model
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on October 19, 2005, 02:21:00 PM
after deliberating on it(about 10 mins.)i went back to wal-mart and purchased the Me-262.Surprisingly enough it has rockets and 2 bombs
mounted.

I also looked up the manufacturer on-line and found that they had made a pappy boyington corsair.I don't even want to know how much that would go for.After i bout  the Miss Marylin P-51 i saw it on E-bay going fpr 52$
i payed 15$
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: SkyWolf on October 19, 2005, 02:51:14 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
after deliberating on it(about 10 mins.)i went back to wal-mart and purchased the Me-262.Surprisingly enough it has rockets and 2 bombs
mounted.

I also looked up the manufacturer on-line and found that they had made a pappy boyington corsair.I don't even want to know how much that would go for.After i bout  the Miss Marylin P-51 i saw it on E-bay going fpr 52$
i payed 15$


None of the 1/32 stuff should cost that much on Ebay.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on October 19, 2005, 03:14:08 PM
None of the 1/32 stuff should cost that much on Ebay.


but yet they do.........
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: cav58d on October 19, 2005, 03:45:15 PM
RESPOND TO FLAK PANZER!
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: cav58d on October 19, 2005, 03:52:11 PM
silly me..we have a different version
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: SkyWolf on October 19, 2005, 05:31:13 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
None of the 1/32 stuff should cost that much on Ebay.


but yet they do.........



If it's an out of build version then it might go that high I suppose. You certainly wouldn't want to bid on it unless you are a collector and convinced it's the only one left on earth. And it ain't.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on November 01, 2005, 11:30:27 AM
they are coming out with a Zero,C202,and an avenger for the holiday season as well as a 1:18 scale P-51.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: SuperDud on November 01, 2005, 11:32:38 AM
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Originally posted by ROC
Our public school tax dollars at work.



LMAO!#!##!
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Fangio on November 01, 2005, 01:56:50 PM
The 1:18 scale models are too big.  They are far too large to fit on a shelf or such and they are too big for kids to really be able to zoom them around and play with them. Do yourself a favor....  stay away from the big ones!


The 1:32 scale toys are an entirely different ball game! THEY ROCK!   I have a 6 1/2 year old son and he is now a fighter pilot! I am so proud!

We have the ME-109E, the FW-190D and the P-47.  The 190D is awesome, we got it in accurate JV-44 colors complete with the red and white striped bottom side. The P-47 has bombs and rockets. All planes have retractable landing gear and opening canopies and pilots that come in and out. The 109E also has flaps that work, all planes have props that spin.  We will be getting the P40 and P51 soon.

These are great toys. They have proven durable, they are the right size for a kid to zoom them around and....  well,  im not sure who plays with them more, me or the kid!



Fang
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on November 01, 2005, 03:31:16 PM
Fangoi i'm in the same place as you.I have a 6 1/2 year old that has mastered flight in his Me-262.All the ones i have found have a special paint scheme on them.The 262 is "white 5 "The P-51 is Miss  Marilyn,the 47 is glenn Eagleston,the 109 is JG26.

I am in the process of making a 1:32 scale AH airfield for the boy too play with them all on.Just wish they had these things when i was his age.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Vudak on November 01, 2005, 04:39:20 PM
So basically you're telling me, if I go into a Walmart, I'll never be able to bring a girl home again?  The joystick/throttle is bad enough already :eek:
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on November 01, 2005, 04:42:38 PM
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So basically you're telling me, if I go into a Walmart, I'll never be able to bring a girl home again? The joystick/throttle is bad enough already


so where are you going with that?
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Vudak on November 01, 2005, 04:45:25 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
so where are you going with that?


Just my weird way of saying, "nice find, I'm gonna check it out" :aok
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Wolf14 on November 01, 2005, 05:44:46 PM
If your into the 21st Century 1:18 scale models stay away from their P-51. The guys at Badcat Toys told me that the P-51 model was their first 1:18 scale model. Its not very well done compared to their others and from what I can tell they havent fixed it any.

BBI makes a really nice P-51 that is much more detailed. I have both a 21st Century P-51 and BBI P-51. There really is no comparison between the two other than the P-51 profile.



http://www.badcataviation.com/noname24.html

http://store1.yimg.com/I/badcattoys_1870_15952054

http://www.badcataviation.com
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Skilless on November 01, 2005, 05:45:48 PM
I saw the jug.  It looked very nice but too big.  I preffer the 1/48 scale revel models.  When put together properly they look awesome and they don't take up as much room.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on November 01, 2005, 06:37:40 PM
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When put together properly


these toys are ready to go right outof the box.With some small assembly.

I am on the 21st Century's mailing list and the lastest update shows they
will have a new 1:18 scale P-51 out by X-mas.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Wmaker on November 01, 2005, 07:24:51 PM
That Rall's 1:18 G-6 looks cool. Is it me, a fish-eye lens the photo was taken with or an error in the model why those wings look like they have no dihedral at all or even negative dihedral? I'm leaning towards the lens though...at least I hope it is the lens. It can be spotted best from Graf's G-6. It really makes most of those models look pretty weird. Does anyone have the G-6 how does it look? Any pics?
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on November 01, 2005, 11:31:01 PM
I had the Gustav hidden at the local wal-mart,but too my surprise it had vanished......
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: gatt on November 02, 2005, 02:33:04 AM
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Originally posted by Wmaker
That Rall's 1:18 G-6 looks cool. Is it me, a fish-eye lens the photo was taken with or an error in the model why those wings look like they have no dihedral at all or even negative dihedral? I'm leaning towards the lens though...at least I hope it is the lens. It can be spotted best from Graf's G-6. It really makes most of those models look pretty weird. Does anyone have the G-6 how does it look? Any pics?


Watch out with those models. I've seen a Corgi 1:32 metal Spitfire MkI (famous "Grumpy" model) with no dihedral at all. Those wings looked like Hurricane's wings. It was awful. Corgi's 109G-6 (at least the Barkhorn' one) are very well done tho, IMHO.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: JimBear on November 02, 2005, 08:23:57 AM
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Originally posted by Wmaker
That Rall's 1:18 G-6 looks cool. Is it me, a fish-eye lens the photo was taken with or an error in the model why those wings look like they have no dihedral at all or even negative dihedral? I'm leaning towards the lens though...at least I hope it is the lens. It can be spotted best from Graf's G-6. It really makes most of those models look pretty weird. Does anyone have the G-6 how does it look? Any pics?


Be really carefull when picking out  the 21st cent stuff. The negative dihedral is probably NOT fisheye. You have to go through the boxes and be selective, dont know why but the quality control on their work is not the greatest. That said, if you find a good quality one it is great for the price ($15 for 1/32 and $30 for 1/18)
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: FiLtH on November 02, 2005, 10:22:54 AM
Im guessing that 190 has about a 12" wingspan.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Fencer51 on November 02, 2005, 11:26:12 AM
I have Clarance Anderson's P-51D Old Crow from GMP Diecast.  It is very well done and has great detail.  Although the cost is greater than what you gents are discussing, it seems to me that it has more detail than the 21st Century stuff.  Definately more a accurate P-51D.   If you ignore the darn ariel which wasn't on actual WWII birds in the ETO.

1:35 Scale Mustang (http://www.gmpdiecast.com/products/default.cfm?category=1%3A35%20P%2D51Mustang)

I appreciate the info on this thread and will be checking out the 21st Century stuff at my local walmart :eek: .

Cheers
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: AutoPilot on November 02, 2005, 12:01:16 PM
I agree on the details everyone has said,but it takes a little common sense.

You get what you pay for.

At the Wright-Patterson Air Force Museum gift shop in Dayton,Ohio they have die cast replica's that exceed 250$.The detail of them is of the highest quality.I wanted something i could hang over my desk and for the kids to play with.The detailing of these planes is what i expected to pay for them being plastic and all.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: gatt on November 02, 2005, 12:58:31 PM
Fencer,

I have the GMP's new P-40 and all I can say is: excellent. I guess the P-51 line is as good. I hope that GMP's next one will be a 109 or a 190.
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: guttboy on December 13, 2005, 07:41:53 PM
Well I am going to get a few of the BBI ones I think.  I will be hanging them from the ceiling in my computer room.....they had a few of them hanging up in the little restaurant at the base....look nice!

I think with a little bit of work I could use some cotton and color it to make it look like the cannons are firing!!!!!
Title: Check out these toys
Post by: Treize69 on December 13, 2005, 10:36:19 PM
Do the 21st Century ones have a G2, or just a G6 and E4? All I can ever find anyway are the 190s and the Emil, I'm gonna have to acquire a G6 through internet probably. :(