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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: RAIDER14 on October 18, 2005, 11:13:28 PM
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I'm sure people want additional Russian aircraft 4 Aces High
so how bout a mig or any other ww2 russian aircraft:aok
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MiG: Yes
Ruskie bomber: Yes
Been there done that with this topic: Yes
Impressive sales of the T-shirt: ..... Well, 3 out of 4 aint bad.
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Yes to a russian bomber.
Yes to Italian bomber.
Yes to a Japanese bomber.
No to more US/RAF/LW planes till we get them.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
No to more US/RAF/LW planes till we get them.
Why no more LW bombers? He-111, He-177 will be good addition as well.
Back to soviet planes, personally i want to see I-16, Yak-1, MiG-3, LaGG-3, Yak-3, IL-4, Pe-2 and few more may be.
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I always got it confused. The Yak3 came after the Yak9 series? It was lighter, lightly armed and nimbler?
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I always got it confused. The Yak3 came after the Yak9 series? It was lighter, lightly armed and nimbler?
If you think of the Yak9U as a Spit IX then proportionally the Yak3 is a vulnerable Spit V with slightly better accel.
Yak3 is a true 44 model ac where as the 9U is late 44.
Yak1>Yak1M (prototype)>Yak3
Yak1>Yak1UT(trainer)>Yak7 series>Yak9 series
Yak1M & Yak9D>Yak9U (with better engine than all other Yaks)
For a 44 set we miss Yak3 and Pe2 the most. Excepting the P39.
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Originally posted by Oleg
Why no more LW bombers? He-111, He-177 will be good addition as well.
Back to soviet planes, personally i want to see I-16, Yak-1, MiG-3, LaGG-3, Yak-3, IL-4, Pe-2 and few more may be.
And the Russian version of the P39.
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Forget the He177, give us the Ju188! I don't think any other game has that one!
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So the Yak1 would be like comparing it to the Spit14?
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More like a Spit I. The progression is a bit wacky:
Yak-1 -> Yak-7 -> Yak-9
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..........Yak-3
Is how I recall it going.
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Nevermind then.
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There has to be a one liner in there somewhere...
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Actually Oleg I'd agree to the HE 111.
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Originally posted by Tilt
If you think of the Yak9U as a Spit IX then proportionally the Yak3 is a vulnerable Spit V with slightly better accel.
Yak3 is a true 44 model ac where as the 9U is late 44.
Yak1>Yak1M (prototype)>Yak3
Yak1>Yak1UT(trainer)>Yak7 series>Yak9 series
Yak1M & Yak9D>Yak9U (with better engine than all other Yaks)
For a 44 set we miss Yak3 and Pe2 the most. Excepting the P39.
Uhm actually the Yak 3 was both far faster, better accelerating, better climbing and more nimble than the Yak 9U.
The Yak 3 was the hot rod of Yaks.
The Yak 3 was a later design than the Yak 9, the first production Yak 9's were delivered around October 1942 while the first PROTOTYPE Yak 3 began flight trails in June 1943. The Yak 3 prototype was named Yak 1M which may be a big reason for misstakes regarding "which came first".
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Uhm actually the Yak 3 was both far faster, better accelerating, better climbing and more nimble than the Yak 9U.
No, Tilt are right.
Most produced Yak-3 has M-105PF2 engine and it was slower than Yak-9U (VK-107A engine) for about 5-10kmh at sea level. Some Yak-3 got VK-107A engine and they was faster than Yak-9U, but they number was low (<50)
http://www.wio.ru/tacftr/yak.htm
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I have never been able to find anything that indicated that the VK-107 Yak-3 entered service before WWII was over. Everything I have seen puts it as post war.
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Originally posted by Oleg
Some Yak-3 got VK-107A engine and they was faster than Yak-9U, but they number was low (<50)
http://www.wio.ru/tacftr/yak.htm
Agreed....Vk107 had 2 prototypes built in early 44 performance was superb but the VK107 proved very unreliable and the Yak 3 went into production with the Vk105-2.
In Spring of 45 Tblisis was tasked to take up the VK107A and begin limited production of an all metal Yak3 which was not tested until may (11th).
Only 40 such machines were completed prior to end of 45..a further 30 during the Spring of 46. Infact they were dogged with problems.......
The VK107 could not in this incarnation be run at WEP.
Manouverability was poor and in combat simulations it failed to surpass the the Vk105-2 powered yak 3 and its stick forces made it manouverability inferior to the then out dated Spit IX.
A few more were made but the whole project dropped in mid 46.
(Gordon)
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Yes to a russian bomber.
Yes to Italian bomber.
Yes to a Japanese bomber.
No to more US/RAF/LW planes till we get them.
Couldn't agree more heartedly.