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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Delirium on October 19, 2005, 08:36:17 AM
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A few days ago, I had a player dive on me with a 109G10, he got one good ping on me (smoked my #2 engine) and proceeded to attempt to pick a squadmate. He cut hard and I was able to catch up to him and down the 109.
For 3 days this player gave me 3 days worth of headaches via private whisper, and I'm wondering if I did the right thing. Rarely do I care, but I'm curious to hear how the community feels... I've let the player's name stay anonymous.
Here is the text of what happened, straight from the screenshots including upper and lower case... note, I never even responded until he apologized.
Player: u folkin peice of feces since when can a P38 keep up with a 109g1
Player:109G10
Player: ur a cheating peice of garbage delirium
Player: u just got pissed cause i got a piece or ur nasty ars
Next day (after landing a sortie)
Player: cheating SOB
Player: u r on my sthit list pal. If i can get u disbanned from this ga
Player: game i will, believe me I will u cheating SOB
Couple days later, out of the blue
Player: My sincere apologies for the other day calling you a cheat.
Player: on a flat turn.. P38 was faster. Sir
Player: Without Gondos's the 109G10 is much quicker.
Delirium: Good to see you a little more cordial, I had collected all
Delirium: the screenshots for Skuzzy, was going to hand em in after the
Delirium: server move
Delirium: Your manner was incredibly rude...
Delirium: post a public apology on the forums and we are good
(I didn't have the screen shot for the one above line)
Player: I will not sir. If I had talked to you on public channel, then
Player: I would... since it was private i am apologizing in private
Delirium: the public apology would encourage you to remember what
Delirium: happened inthe future, so someone else doesn't
Delirium: have to suffer through your 'tirades'
Delirium: apology not accepted
Player: I do not appreciate you and your MASTER DEGREE words.
Delirium: thats what I thought... glad I stuck to my guns on this one
Player: u are truly a jerk... most of the guys sincerely dislike ur atti
Delirium: yep
Player: like a child does in grade school. You have alot of growing up
Player: to do delirium..regardless of ur age!
Delirium: So does the community in AH, and it will eventually
edit: No names are mentioned, just curious how the community as a whole feels, there is no need to lock this thread.
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What a tool.
Send in the screen shots to Skuzzy...
Tex
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I think you should have accepted his apoligy.
HiTech
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Delirium, pay no mind bro. He's pissed off because he blew his Alt AND E to attempt a cherry pick. He was the one who got slow and low in a G10 WITH Gondolas.
You are a representation of the 475th. All of you are class acts. <>
Karaya
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Originally posted by hitech
I think you should have accepted his apoligy.
HiTech
Agreed, it does no good to try and push the issue past where it obviously should have ended. His tirade was in private and a private apology is more than adequate.
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I agree with HiTech on this one. The other guy was wrong and clearly wrong, but you, being the quality of person you are, should have risen above his level and accepted the apology. It was an olive branch after all.
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I think you shoulda just sent in the screenshots to HT and let them deal with his accusations. apology or not, the accusations, of the thing we dont talk about, were made.
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Hey Del, sorry for saying all those mean things to you.
I know you don't hack, I just got upset because you caught my run109.
I hope we can still be friends....:cry
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Obviously the guy was out of line, no question. Apologies are hard for some to do, and easy for others. I personally think you should have accepted his apology. Also, I think you should have kept the screenshots just in case. By accepting, you would have taken the high ground, by asking him to apologize on BBS, you were stirring the pot a little.
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I love how the moment you did not accept his apology he resorted right back to not typing out the full words.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I love how the moment you did not accept his apology he resorted right back to not typing out the full words.
hahah didn't even notice..
btw who was it del? i would have accepted and dropped it.
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First of all: >S< Delirium. Youre a class act.
Whoever said those things should grow a mind himself. Nevertheless, you probably shouldve accepted that apology, just to show him youre better than that. But i can certainly understand why you would choose not to.
BTW, id have squelched him after that second line. And probably never heard that apology at all.
Schatzi
PS: IMHO, youre wrong on another account. I dont think AH community will *ever* grow up.
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"id have squelched him after that second line... never heard that apology at all."
Except without any kind of perma-squelch feature EVERY single time Delerium logged into AH he'd have had to waste his time squelching that moron.
I personally can't fault Delirium in the least. From the text he posted it's plain as day he wasn't dealing with someone who is rational and well "balanced." In all honesty the "unknown" player fits the description of "psychopath" pretty well.
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Hmmmmmmmmm...
IMHO I would have told that person to take it to HTC when they sent the 1st PM or I would do so for them. What they sent was abusive. Possibly because they were upset and wanted you to be upset as well? Both pay for using/flying in AH which gives neither the right to abuse the other except with virtual bullets :)
RE: the apoligy. IMHO If it had been all private then a private apoligy would be fine. If it had been public then a public apoligy would be require. Not on the BBS but in the arena in which it occured and on the same channel.
Had a GF that used to love to insult/abuse me in public and then get all lovey dovey and say how sorry she was in private. One day I got tired of it and told her NOPE not acceptable. If you can insult/abuse me in public you can say your sorry in public. Made it stick. We parted not too long after.
Welp thats just my $0.02.
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Just another good reason for .permasquelch
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I think you should have recorded it and sent me the film. Then I would create a film based on this foolishness and we could all point and laugh at him.
That's what I think.
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how does one get "dis-banned" from the game..... :)
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Del he did apologize, what he did wasn't public so the only person he owes an apology to is you :)
I would have accepted the apology but kept the screen shots just in case it happened again.
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Damn man.
I never have anyone PM me and cuss me out or call me a cheater:cry
I feel so......left out.
Guess Im not there yet :cry
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Del, if you keep insisting on handling things in such a diplomatic manner, the 475th will never have pictures of us photoshopped.
Is that really what you want? Darn thunder stealer.
:p
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What is "disbanned"? Dis = not so I guess he is saying you will NOT get banned.
BTW whats his name so we can gang him :D
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Originally posted by Morpheus
I think you should have recorded it and sent me the film. Then I would create a film based on this foolishness and we could all point and laugh at him.
That's what I think.
OHHH Hampster dance song mixed with a laughing soundtrack
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I would have gave him the " np man
" and kept the screenshots for his next melt down. Then report if it had to come to that. Demanding a public apology my be a bit much, but the guy was acting like a real tool.
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Sounds to me like one more reason for a permanent squelch list.
Regards,
Malta
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Originally posted by Meatwad
OHHH Hampster dance song mixed with a laughing soundtrack
Been done by Spade already. Need something else.......
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i think you were asking too much to make a public appology but considering as soon as you made your request clear the player reverted back to thier true colours your request was a good test of the appologie's calibre.
I dont think you should ever except this appology off this player, nor ever have to have them invade your screen.
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If he insulted you privately, then private apology should be acceptable. I think your request that he do it publicly was just a way for you to stroke your ego with his mistake. Same as this thread is just you making another attempt to force the matter publicly. Which begins to call your motives into question...
The fact that he 'Reverted' upon you asking for a public apology is simply the proof that you were asking too much.
People here seem to think that revealed his true colors, I disagree. I think if he was on the board, calling you a cheat he would owe you more. But in private, no.
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Respond to any insulting PM with either smiles or taunts. The more you laugh, the more they meltdown. Sure, it's a bit sadistic, and probably reflects poorly on your character, but what the hell. It's a game. If I can't have fun flying, I'll have fun at some clown's expense. I'm not picky.
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Originally posted by Kurt
Same as this thread is just you making another attempt to force the matter publicly.
If that was truly the case, I would of mentioned the player's name... I had mixed emotions on how I treated it and I just wanted another opinion.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Respond to any insulting PM with either smiles or taunts. The more you laugh, the more they meltdown. Sure, it's a bit sadistic, and probably reflects poorly on your character, but what the hell. It's a game. If I can't have fun flying, I'll have fun at some clown's expense. I'm not picky.
That's the way Hubs. It's character building imo :aok
Wind them up, or ignore them. Don't slip into cursing, effing & blinding - that's a bit sad in a game like this.
:)
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I think you handled it the right way.
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Originally posted by MOSQ
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I remember my first time.
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MOSQ you're a damn CHEAT!!
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I've run into alot of people like this one too. Either calling you a cheater or "you lucked out I am really much better then you are".
I think you did the right thing by not accepting the appology, but the wrong thing by asking him to appologise in public. Accepting the appology does nothing except tell the guy he can do whatever he likes in private and not worry about it.
He ones again proved his true nature by how pissed off he got after you said you didn't accept it.
Player: I do not appreciate you and your MASTER DEGREE words. Player: u are truly a jerk... most of the guys sincerely dislike ur atti Player: like a child does in grade school. You have alot of growing up Player: to do delirium..regardless of ur age!
I would've just let him keep talking then reported him using the ingame report + taken screenshots for extra backup.
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"MORPH CHEATS " MORPH CHEATS":furious :O
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Originally posted by Meatwad
OHHH Hampster dance song mixed with a laughing soundtrack
Originally posted by BBQ_Bob
Been done by Spade already. Need something else.......
How 'bout "Barbie Girl"? Has that been done yet? If not, how come? Chop chop!
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Could have easily accepted, and moved on. Way too much time invested in careing about what he thought.
If you wanted to give a good poke, you should have let it go, then when he aplogized, asked what he was talking about, and did he type something you were supposed to pay attention to :)
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Hub's right. Taunting is the game within the game. People make mistakes when they fly mad. Being called a cheater is the highest compliment a newbie can bestow. Accept it graciously.
g00b
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Originally posted by mechanic
MOSQ you're a damn CHEAT!!
I've arrived at AHII nirvana!!!!!
Yahoo!
Thanks mechanic, you've made my day, week, month!
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The guy said sorry and Deli was being mean about making him say it publicly before he accepted. Deli, just say thank you to the guy and apology accepted.
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Sounds like you're more interested in getting your name typed up on a BBS than an apology. :D
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Originally posted by YUCCA
Sounds like you're more interested in getting your name typed up on a BBS than an apology. :D
YUCCA SUCKS!!!!
PS. I apologise for that :rofl :cry
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I would have ignored his apology as well. I also dont like the PM thing folks can send you and act like your own private jerk. Ive seen it alot of times someone acts like a moron then cozies up right after that and expects a hug. I dont waste my time with people like that. For them to even say stuff like what happened to you, makes them someone I dont want to be associated with. I pretend they dont play the same game I do and I feel better.
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lol can you tell me who? pm me please!! haha :D
I wouldn't of said accepted either.
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i think you were wrong asking for a public apology, what will you gain by requesting that?
he was good enough to apologise and admit he was wrong, you responded wanting to humiliate him.
just my 2 cents.
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You were right, although you should post the name. Too long have the faceless PM ers amongst us (rmaniac and grmrpr spring to mind) been free to point out how much we suck after we've shot them down...
Let the dice roll.
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forget it.
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Should have taken the apolgy and moved on.
Glad to see that you didnt stoop to his level though
Some people just cant handle getting shot down LOL
Had a guy get mad at me cause I shot down his TBM while I was defending a CV :cry :huh
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Originally posted by Elyeh
Had a guy get mad at me cause I shot down his TBM while I was defending a CV :cry :huh
Well duuuuh! That's pure EVIL..... EVIL I tell ya! :confused: :eek: :huh
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Originally posted by Lazerr
Hey Del, sorry for saying all those mean things to you.
I know you don't hack, I just got upset because you caught my run109.
I hope we can still be friends....:cry
Laz what is really troubling is that the Teen Squelch Hack/P38 cheat I sent Del was supposed to be impossible to track. I guess its back to the drawing boards...
Del you still owe me $.39 for it by the way.
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Del I would have accepted the apology.
Then I would have come here and read your post and whished I had done the same as you.
This guys is just a sad little girl.
Why should you accept his apology.... He has intruded on you time, on multiple occasions..
If you accepted, then she... Sorry he would just do it to the next person who shot her... Sorry him down due to her... sorry his inability to fly
But thats just my opinion of course
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thats it!
so many people here taking the moral high ground without thinking.
is delirium our lord the holy father god? no. so why should he be all mercifull anf forgiving so easily?
true, Del ya might not have bothered making it public like this and demanding a public appology but the point is you were in the right from the start.
this player was rude and total unreasonable from the start and for a number of days.
the appology was weak, and you saw what happened at the slightest resistance.
the appology was total crap infact, just words to attempt to salvage some sort of decent reputation as something more than a fool.
stick to your guns still, unless another, and now obviously public, appology is given :D
bat