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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dowding on April 08, 2001, 09:35:00 AM
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No it's not some anti-American observation ( (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)), it's a British game by Lionhead Studios, headed by Peter Molyneux (the guy behind Bullfrog and the Populous games).
It is simply breathtaking - 'God' games have always been a bit samey to me, but this seems really original. The graphics are outstanding (although I do have a 1.2 GHz Athlon and a Prophet II Pro 64 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)). Fully zoomable landscapes with truly amazing lighting effects.
You get a kind of 'avatar' in the form of a creature - mine is a tiger - it starts off fairly small, but eventually, as you teach it more it can grow to the size of a small sky-scraper.
The essential them is one of choices. You gain 'Belief' in you by ihabitants of the islands by certain acts. Perform food or wood miracles and you get more belief until you become the central deity in their lives. But you can also be a complete b'stard and be an evil god - they believe in you becuase you might be dropping rocks on their houses (or children) or throwing them into the sea.
You reward (stroking) or punish (smack around) your creature depending on what he does. For instance he might pick up a cow and eat it if hungry. Reward him for that, since he does need to eat. But he also might eat a person, so give a slap for it.
I've only played it for a few hours, so I've barely scratched the surface. It is a huge game.
I was wondering if anyone has heard of it (EA are the publisher, so it can't be far away from a release)?
www.blackandwhite.ea.com (http://www.blackandwhite.ea.com)
[This message has been edited by Dowding (edited 04-08-2001).]
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Behold I have become god, Shiva destroyer of worlds.
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Looks like an action version of that 1998 game that boasted virtual DNA. It was like a pre-pokemon kinda game where you hatched little creatures and tought them via reward/punishment... the old creatures then taught the young ones, etc etc. Was a bit fun until you realize that was all there was.
I'll check it out, i've always loved populous, its still one of my favourite games. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dowding, has your creature pooped on anybody yet? My monkey did - had to spank him.
Er....
Wilfrid
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Heard good things about it, but haven't tried it yet.
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great game, been playing it a lot.
very complicated tho; hard to keep track of many times while taking care of your creature too.
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any demo?
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So, what's the FM like?
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Tac - I believe that was 'Creatures' - but it is far, far better. More a game than a simulation.
Wil - good to hear from 'Our man in Germany'. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Yes, my tiger has crapped on a bunch of builders - one of them was flung down a cliff into the sea by the 'emission'.
Suffice to say, the beast got a pat on the back for it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I'm trying to train it to go crap in the field - it's supposed to be good for the crops.
The FM is great, it doesn't lose E at all, and acceleration is instantaneous. Kind of like the niki.
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If your monkey grows to the size of a small skyscraper ,can you still spank it ??
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BW is really amazing! I'm addicted to it. My tiger likes to eat his poop and eat my vilagers. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I have to slap him around a bit. He's a good fighter though. He only lost one fight! I'm about to exhange him for the turtle.
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
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I picked up B&W on Friday. The reviews are right that the learning curve is rather steep. The game is really good though. You can always tell titles where the developers put their heart and soul into a project. It was worth the extra 3 month wait for the release.
However it does GPF and crash quite often during saves for me. There seems to be a conflict with SBLive cards too.
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Mickey
3./JG2 (http://members.home.net/winyah999/3jg2.htm)
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Superfly, that can't be good for your tiger. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I've finally taught my Tiger to crap outside his pen.
Unfortunately there's about 3000 tonnes of tiger crap that needs to be disposed of. One solution creates another problem (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif).
Mickey - I've not had a problem with crashes and I have SBLive card. Haven't patched the game at all yet. Saving games takes ages though, especially after you have captured a few villages. Hopefully the first patch will solve that.
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I think he only eats it when he's too lazy to find a cow or some fish. I've seen him steal the villagers food sometimes too. I taught him to poop on trees and rocks now. The problem with that is when you put trees in the village, he leaves his holy mark for everyone to see. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Does that stuff disappear eventually?
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You guys realise that someone who never hear of or played this game before reading this thread is thinking to himself that this game sounds retarded (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
You guys have fun figuring out what to do with your monkey toejam and ill just keep working on my ACM (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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is there a demo to that game? I cant find it anywhere (or maybe im having a DUH attack or something).
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Does it have Spitfires and 190s?
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SUPEFLY, what that your tiget that pooped on the arm rest in the ARADO?
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S!
Stop guys..It hurts of so much laughing.B&W is a pretty nice game,but I have not managed to get rid of that guy living in the mine near the village.He lures kids with his pipe and keeps'em prisoners.I should attach the leash on him,but failed to do so?Tips?
And the pooping.My tiger seems to aim for the trees.And has a guilty look after releasing a real "smack-tha-earth" followed by a sound of thundering fart.Oh well..Just need that game to forget AH if done badly there,or do I get slapped for that? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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DB603
3.Lentue
Lentolaivue 34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34/)
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Attach the leash. Then your creature should pick him up when he gets close...
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Juzz is right.
Unfortunately I was using the 'agression' leash and my Tiger ate the Piper bloke. My Tiger is apparently 'black-hearted'. I say blame the parents. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
It does sound a little mad, but it's a great game nonetheless. The zoo-keeper aspect is just part of it. I just love rolling boulders at enemy villages - and the great thing is they believe in you more for it, and eventually worship you as the chief Deity! Power - isn't it a wonderful thing? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Got the fireball too - watching those villages burn is strangely hypnotic. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I haven't seen a demo anywhere.
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Nope, no demos yet. But, there are a lot of mpeg movies. Go to www.gamespot.com (http://www.gamespot.com)
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Thanks, I dont buy games unless I get a demo. Those movies look great. Its like Populous combined with The Horde and Creatures LOLOLOL
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bastards, I had to go an buy it now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Which version is better ,the one in the black box or the one in the white box?
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Notice the guys on the boat on the "training" level are AH pilots. Give them a sheep, you'll see what I mean.
Now, on the second map, anyone know WTF is causing that damn plague on the 3rd village? I mean, one of them even had the nerve of saying "what kind of a supreme power are you? you havent wa,wa,wa,wa," *eat this you ingrate waste of skin* *Fireball on his house and throw the bastige into the middle of the ocean* (PING! Village worships you more now.. MUAHAH).
This game could be damaging to one's sanity. I just love squeak slapping that tiger. The dickhead cant seem to learn not to poop on my altar. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Tac - notice the colour of the grain in that poisoned village?
That's just a small clue. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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crap, i hate being color blind. thanks.
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Do any of you guys know how to keep your creature cool? My creature is smoking because he's so hot. Also, he thinks my alignment is good, but he looks evil. That's kind of weird don't you think? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/confused.gif)
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"Holy Underwear!"
John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
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Ah now I see the future
"we ran into som "technical difficulties" and will not complete v1.07 til we're done with B&...err, til they're solved"
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Use the water miracle, Superfly? Maybe planting a tree nearby might help?
I don't really know to be honest - but I reckon there are going to be a fair few bugs in this release cosidering the size of the game.
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send him for a swim or put him inside a tree forest. Once he sleeps he'll cool off. Hot could also mean its dehydrated.
My tiger keeps hugging villagers, then throwing them ROFL.
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I still can't get my creature to dump in the farm fields. At least he quit eating it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I got my creature to stop eating or throwing the villagers, but he still picks them up and pets them. The problem is that when he puts them down, 50% of the time they turn into "deciple" randy little bastards and then I end up with a nursery full of children and then soon after they are all screaming "must build homes".
If I slap the creature around to tell him to stop picking them up will that screw something else up?
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Mickey
3./JG2 (http://members.home.net/winyah999/3jg2.htm)
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Mickey:
Parenthood - it's all about choices.
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Originally posted by Tac:
send him for a swim or put him inside a tree forest. Once he sleeps he'll cool off. Hot could also mean its dehydrated.
My tiger keeps hugging villagers, then throwing them ROFL.
Heh...my creature keeps grabbing the beachball I gave him and hurling it at the kids playing in the playground...
I caught him last night eating a tree which he promptly threw up and ran around until he could find a sheep to wash the taste out of his mouth...
It's truly frightening how much personality these things have...
I was reading an article where originally the creatures could die and you would get a new one...but beta testers couldn't handle the fact that after all that time...they had grown so close to their creature that it was actually hurtful to lose them.
To them I say...go outside..get some fresh air...IT'S ONLY A FRIGGEN GAME!!!
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That is hilarious Tac. My creature picks them up and pets them. I can't make the creature go for swim. He can't go any deeper than he can stand. I will try putting him in a forest. This game is a lot more fun to just play with the creature than micromanage the place. You definitely gotta watch those breeder deciples. They breed like rabbits!
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
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Ok, so who else has seen their creature getting the villagers to dance with him? Seeing a giant orange ape pulling off disco moves to the cheers of Aztec villagers is just plain weird!
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LOL That's one of the funniest parts of the game! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I love watching my tiger breakdance and do the moon walk. He's pretty superfly. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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"Holy Underwear!"
John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
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Yeah, dancing tiger is hilarious.
I like the Titanic spoof they put in the first world when they launch the boat too.
Remember the guy in the first world that was a smartass if you missed the rock (when in the tutorial world you practice throwing rocks)? After his second comment I threw HIM and smack hit the pillar. Them villagers bounce pretty well i'd say. Must be overmodelling.
Creature fights are awesome. My tiger has beaten the crap out of 3 critters already, and when it wins it does all these macho mucle-displaying moves, the "V" sign, etc. Its too bad the game doesnt have a film recorder (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I never finished the quest with the guys making the boat. I got pissed because they said grain wasn't good enough and they wanted something else. I was like "Screw you bastards, you'll take what I give and LIKE IT!" Then I picked up one of them and threw him at the boat, killing him. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) What happens when you complete that one?
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
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Did anyone ever follow that yoga guy down from the mountaintop? That was about the most frustrating damn thing yet, I gave it up finally. Skipped a few others too, the sheep for one, got tired of looking for the little things.
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Reading this thread is like reading pages out of a Fathers diary. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Superfly if you just grab another villager and drop it next to the boat it'll become a sailor. They sail off, couple of em standing on the bow, arms outstretched like Winslet and Di whatshisname.
I did the same as you though, got tired of their whining...gave one to my Monkey, threw another one against a mountain and a third got his wish to travel across the sea - I counted 6 splashes/bounces before he disappeared over the horizon.
I am a vengeful god. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Wilfrid
272 Squadron Whispering Death
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Hey Fatty! I haven't seen you around here lately. Where you been?
I cheated and went to Best Buy to read the BW hint book for that yogi one. You just have to get super close to him, and stay behind his back. You can hit p to pause it and re-position the camera to stay clear of his eyes. He says he'll help you later on, but he never did anything for me.
Has anyone figured out the point to the guy you who keeps asking you to throw him? Throwing him is a lot of fun. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I request that you stop posting about this game right away please. It is extremely ridiculous for you to believe that you can be a god. I find it very offensive.......
Yeah right!!! You guys are killing me with all of the descriptions...especially because I cant find the damn thing at any local stores!!!!! I am intrigued and am desperately trying to locate this one. Sounds like a blast.
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Sling322
Not a Monitor!
Fat Drunk "Chute Shooting" Bastards
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Black and White... ridiculous in an omnipotent kind of way. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I haven't had time to play it for that last few days - I'm missing those fireballs.
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Just make sure you don't miss out on those furballs too! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
HiTech Creations
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B&W Update:
While trying to teach my creature to fetch and catch. I was tossing boulders at him...he would just kinda stand there and fall over as they hit him. After awhile you could tell he was getting pissed. Finally in his frustration he picked up one of the boulders and hurled it into the ocean. Then turned back to me and flipped me the bird...and walked off.
I LOVE THIS GAME!!!
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Hehe i picked the cow (now 5 or 6) and he still sucks, but because he's looks cool he can stay with me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). Sure...fireballing villagers are fun....but causing thunderstorms and lightning bolts and electricuting them to death is even FUNNER (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). I cant wait till he masters the fireball miracle (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). hehe great game. I love it.
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Pyro, the yogi guy helps you against the other god.
One thing I hate about that level (im stuck in it) is that you dont start with any population. I left the PC for 3 hours with all the non-essential villagers set to breed like bunnies...
I return and find my graveyard overpopulated and almost the same amount of villagers. Dangit, they cant have died of too much sex.. can they?
Managed to take over the 2 neighboring villages (the yogi helps you against the enemy god's retaliation), and I find the 2nd village has only one villager! My fireball found him.. and I got the village!? LOL. Then the bastige enemy god retaliates and wins the village back.. and I have to retake a 0 population village that need 1600 pnts to retake? Can you say FUBAR? HAHAH.
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My tiger seems to think the sea is his... he roams that first level and watches the fisherman toddle down, waits for them to cast and then runs like lightening grabs them and flings them miles away...
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Im trying to train him for the sheep collecting deal (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) See if he can manage that without getting too fat lol maybe take his mind off whatever he hates about fisherman too.
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Ah, see I never took over the last village because I decided to spare Lethys life. I guess that is why I never saw the yogi again. I'm in a new world now where I have to ultimately fight Nemesis. The bastard cursed my tiger!
Does anyone know how to take screenshots in BW?
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY:
Does anyone know how to take screenshots in BW?
Beside the F12 key "print screen" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Just a heads up,for those concerned about such things.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18279.html (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18279.html)
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I would have thought Norton Firewall 2001 would have picked it up. I have set to tell me whenever ANY program accesses the internet - any first time access attempt is also blocked until I authorise it.
It blocked Gator straight away.