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Title: important question
Post by: SMIDSY on October 20, 2005, 06:03:31 AM
how soon after i turn 18 do i need to register for the draft? keep in mind i live in the united states.
Title: important question
Post by: ASTAC on October 20, 2005, 06:27:33 AM
You should do it right away. If not, you may forget and they don't like that. just go down to your post office and sign up.
Title: important question
Post by: SMIDSY on October 20, 2005, 06:31:06 AM
define "they dont like that" please. cuz i turned 18 in late july.
Title: important question
Post by: mosgood on October 20, 2005, 06:51:59 AM
Just get down there and do it... Uncle Sam wants YOU.... to do it.
Title: important question
Post by: Shifty on October 20, 2005, 06:57:59 AM
Nash will tell you George Bush has a team on the way to your house right now.  To beat you, hog tie you, and send you to the quaqmire of Iraq. :cool:

Just go down to the post office and fill out the paperwork. Once you do that.........Then get on with the rest of your life.:aok
Title: important question
Post by: Jackal1 on October 20, 2005, 06:59:14 AM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
define "they dont like that" please. cuz i turned 18 in late july.


Don`t worry bout it. Military prison food isn`t as bad as it`s cracked up to be I`m told.
With you being 18 and all the dating system might get a little rough on ya, but hey, you will have a shot a Prom Queen. :)
Title: important question
Post by: ASTAC on October 20, 2005, 08:11:15 AM
Here you can even do it online.

link (http://www.sss.gov)

From the website:

As a part of that readiness, virtually all men in the U.S. are required to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. Men must be registered to be in compliance with federal law and stay eligible for student loans and grants, government jobs, job taining, all security background clearances, and U.S. citizenship for immigrants.
Title: important question
Post by: Gunslinger on October 20, 2005, 08:38:24 AM
Trust me you don't NOT want to do it.  If you ever want to do military service or apply of federal civil service you need to know your "selective service" number.
Title: important question
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 20, 2005, 08:52:06 AM
I'd say screw it and not do it at all. If they come after ya just claim your refusal based on Sexual discrimination.
As they dont force women to do it (really kinda surprised nobody has tried that yet);)
Title: important question
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 20, 2005, 08:54:19 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Trust me you don't NOT want to do it.  If you ever want to do military service or apply of federal civil service you need to know your "selective service" number.


Good god. its been so long I dont even know my selective service #

Oh well there goes my plans of a military carreer objective of becoming a "PLO" :rofl

(Wondering how many will get that)
Title: important question
Post by: Seagoon on October 20, 2005, 08:57:32 AM
Please don't follow Dredlock's advice, the outcome in the SCOTUS would only be to extend the draft to women too. Those of us with daughters thank you.

Just go register for the selective service, I did it when I turned 17 roughly 300 years ago, but providentially I was already too old to serve when the French and Indian War broke out... ;)

- SEAGOON
Title: important question
Post by: Sandman on October 20, 2005, 10:19:29 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I'd say screw it and not do it at all. If they come after ya just claim your refusal based on Sexual discrimination.
As they dont force women to do it (really kinda surprised nobody has tried that yet);)


I like this plan. At the very least, it'll be entertaining.
Title: important question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 20, 2005, 10:32:12 AM
Just so you know, you are not elligable for Federal Student Aid for college unless you sign your Selective Service stuff.
Title: important question
Post by: SMIDSY on October 20, 2005, 10:38:45 AM
"not registering is a felony. Young men convicted of failure to register may be fined up to $250,000, imprisoned for up to five years, or both."

im not gonna chance it if im gonna be headin off to war with the navy anyway.
Title: important question
Post by: Hangtime on October 20, 2005, 10:42:19 AM
"Kid, have you rehabilitated yourself?"

Yah can't burn your draft card if you don't have one. Women say 'yes' to guys that say 'no'.

Line up, sign up, get yer selective service card today. It's the American thing to do.

Or, join Nash in Canada.
Title: important question
Post by: Sandman on October 20, 2005, 11:45:35 AM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
"not registering is a felony. Young men convicted of failure to register may be fined up to $250,000, imprisoned for up to five years, or both."

im not gonna chance it if im gonna be headin off to war with the navy anyway.


C'mon man... take a hit for the team.
Title: important question
Post by: Blooz on October 20, 2005, 12:14:40 PM
LOL...

One of the first things you do when you join the military service is fill out the selective service card.

Go down to the post office. Fill out the card. It takes about 2 minutes.
Title: important question
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2005, 03:26:40 PM
"Fill out the card. It takes about 2 minutes."


 And don't forget to "opt in" on the life insurance.
Title: important question
Post by: dmf on October 20, 2005, 05:52:32 PM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Please don't follow Dredlock's advice, the outcome in the SCOTUS would only be to extend the draft to women too. Those of us with daughters thank you.

Just go register for the selective service, I did it when I turned 17 roughly 300 years ago, but providentially I was already too old to serve when the French and Indian War broke out... ;)

- SEAGOON


If they started drafting women, what are we supposed to do with our children?
Title: important question
Post by: midnight Target on October 20, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
fuggetaboutit
Title: important question
Post by: Dago on October 20, 2005, 07:18:29 PM
I think the time limit was within 30 days of your 18th birthday, but that was when I turned 18 and that was a long time ago.
Title: important question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 20, 2005, 07:36:26 PM
I'm pretty sure that Mothers would not be drafted.
Title: important question
Post by: rpm on October 20, 2005, 07:50:16 PM
I never signed up with selective service.



I enlisted on my 17th birthday.
Title: important question
Post by: JB66 on October 20, 2005, 08:14:08 PM
Don't forget to...It is something that will screw you later.   Finanical aid for college etc...
Title: important question
Post by: Dago on October 20, 2005, 09:25:44 PM
I signed up at the end of the Viet Nam war.  My draft number was 135 I think.  But, by then they had quit drafting.
Title: important question
Post by: Hangtime on October 20, 2005, 09:26:39 PM
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Originally posted by dmf
If they started drafting women, what are we supposed to do with our children?


ammo carriers.
Title: important question
Post by: nirvana on October 20, 2005, 09:40:37 PM
When you filled out your thing for your license, didn't it have a thing that said "I hereby agree to selective service" blah blah blah to receive your license?  Not sure when you got yours but I got mine a week or so ago and that's what it said.  I'm not sure if this means I don't need to register (I probably will anyway, just in case) but schools also have things that track kids for this kind of stuff if I remember correctly.  School stuff might just be so the military can send you flyers though.
Title: important question
Post by: SMIDSY on October 20, 2005, 10:12:14 PM
oh i dont have a license to drive. only a mandatory fishing license and a certification of proficency in bannana torture.
Title: important question
Post by: AdmRose on October 21, 2005, 01:39:58 AM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
oh i dont have a license to drive. only a mandatory fishing license and a certification of proficency in bannana torture.


He didn't, did he?:confused: :huh
Title: important question
Post by: SMIDSY on October 21, 2005, 04:46:25 AM
im not kidding...exept for the mandatory fishing license. i have a "fake ID", it reads:

Name: Blubuland Ulbulum
Age: No
Variation: Trifle
ID#: 1234567890

Area of Expertise: Bannana Torturer, Master of Disguise


and on the back it reads:
This card is a special card that will give special access to special places to the special person described on the other side of the card. If you find this special card, please keep it so that you can become a special person and gain special access to special places.
                        Thank You for your Cooperation
Title: important question
Post by: Rino on October 21, 2005, 04:53:51 AM
I do know they follow up on the registering thing.  I registered in 1980
when I turned 18, but received a letter from Selective Service near the end
of 1981 saying that I hadn't.  

     I replied that I had indeed, and that if they didn't like it, they could
respond to me via my commanding officer at Lowery AFB, Denver Co.
Morons ;)
Title: important question
Post by: nirvana on October 21, 2005, 07:45:22 AM
So the truth comes out Smidsy, some B&D is your real nature.  You are a sick kid, you know that right?  And what is a bannana?  Is that like a banana?
Title: important question
Post by: Seagoon on October 21, 2005, 04:32:48 PM
Hi Lasersailor,

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I'm pretty sure that Mothers would not be drafted.


There is no guarantee of that, as there was historically no automatic dispensation for fathers. Around here, mom's get deployed to Iraq (where they are in combat - don't believe otherwise for a moment) and have to leave behind their kids all the time. The only exception on deployment is for pregnancy.

- SEAGOON
Title: important question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 21, 2005, 04:40:27 PM
Seagoon, all the mom's in iraq Volunteered.  We're talking about drafting no Mothers.  Or possibly single parents for that matter.
Title: important question
Post by: Gunslinger on October 21, 2005, 07:40:27 PM
As a loving father I have to say I hope to god my daughter never get's drafted, I say the same about my son as well.  If either of them were to enter military service I wish it to be voluntary.  

BUT,

I'd have to say that if they did initiate a draft today I think there'd be several justifiable law suits stating gender discrimination that woman arent included in that draft.
Title: important question
Post by: dmf on October 21, 2005, 08:19:14 PM
I'm a single mother, and the last thing I want to do is leave my daughter and possibly never come back to her.
Title: important question
Post by: Gunslinger on October 21, 2005, 09:37:11 PM
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Originally posted by dmf
I'm a single mother, and the last thing I want to do is leave my daughter and possibly never come back to her.


Well what about equality?  What about single fathers? I know a few.

Seriously if woman start getting drafted along with men the only ones you have to blame are your feminist woman's studies teachers in college to blame.
Title: important question
Post by: Pooh21 on October 21, 2005, 09:58:06 PM
I am a single mother too, and being drafted means I cant stand in front of the mirror anymore and play with my boobies. :rofl (Which is what I would do if I was)

Smidsy walk into that post office with your head held high, ask for the form,  Then set it on fire while screaming "George Bush does not care about beavers!"
Title: important question
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 21, 2005, 10:02:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Good god. its been so long I dont even know my selective service #

Oh well there goes my plans of a military carreer objective of becoming a "PLO" :rofl

(Wondering how many will get that)


Cant beleive nobody got that.

You mean to tell me nobody here has seen "No time for Sergeants"??

PLO

Permanent
Latrine
Orderly
Title: important question
Post by: fartwinkle on October 21, 2005, 10:06:45 PM
Let's see register for a draft we dont have:rolleyes:
Title: important question
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 21, 2005, 10:20:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
As a loving father I have to say I hope to god my daughter never get's drafted, I say the same about my son as well.  If either of them were to enter military service I wish it to be voluntary.  

BUT,

I'd have to say that if they did initiate a draft today I think there'd be several justifiable law suits stating gender discrimination that woman arent included in that draft.


See thats how I feel about it.
I have both a son and a daughter and I wouldnt want to see either of them drafted. Now if either were to join on their own. Thats their decision and I would support it

but if there were a draft inasmuch as women are already allowed to and do serve now
It should include women.

They want and faught for equal rights and all its benifits, and rightly so.
But it is my firm beleif that you cant just accept the benifits without also accepting the possible pitfalls that go with it.

You cant say "I am  equal to a man  and demand to be treated equally as such. exept for this or that"

No no no no no.

Then your saying that a woman has more rights then a man because the woman has that right to choose not to join where a man does not.
And how is that equal?

I personally am dead set against a draft.
But if you want everyone to be treated equally then everyone should be treated equally for worse as well as for better.

And if your going to exclude single mothers. then also exclude single fathers as well.
Either be fair and treat everyone equally about it or dont do it at all.
Orrrr Roll back the equal rights between a man and woman.

If a man is forced to serve and a woman is not. then he has earned those extra rights. Because as a tradeoff. Unlike a woman, he can be plucked out of his home and away from his family at a moments notice AGAINST his wishes and several months later find himself in a far off land with people trying to blow his head off.
Title: important question
Post by: J_A_B on October 21, 2005, 10:36:54 PM
There actually was a suit, or at least the beginnings of one, a couple decades ago.  It quietly disappeared since the draft was no longer in effect.  This issue WILL reappear if ever the government re-instates the draft.

J_A_B
Title: important question
Post by: dmf on October 22, 2005, 07:27:38 PM
I know there isn't a draft right now, and I personally don't care about that good  old equality thing, we have "equality" and were still not treated the same as men.

My point is this, someday as this "terror war" goes on and on there will be a shortage of either people to send over there, or a shortage of people enlisting in the military, therefore we will need to reinstate the draft to force people to join. And I don't want to be one of the ones to be forced to join the military.
I support anybody in the military, you men and women have my ultimate thanks.  Its just not my "thing".
Title: important question
Post by: Blooz on October 22, 2005, 11:49:55 PM
There won't be a draft.

Volunteers produce a better quality, motivated fighting force.

The U.S. military learned long ago that draftees are more of a liability than an asset.

You get more bang for your buck with people who want to serve.
Title: important question
Post by: Lye-El on October 23, 2005, 11:29:53 AM
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Originally posted by Blooz
There won't be a draft.

Volunteers produce a better quality, motivated fighting force.

The U.S. military learned long ago that draftees are more of a liability than an asset.

You get more bang for your buck with people who want to serve.



True. Also besides the draft there was the choice handed down by judges of you can go to jail or join the service. As I don't hear anything like that any more I assume that the lawbreakers go to jail now rather than pollute the military.
Title: important question
Post by: SaburoS on October 23, 2005, 12:38:38 PM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
"not registering is a felony. Young men convicted of failure to register may be fined up to $250,000, imprisoned for up to five years, or both."

im not gonna chance it if im gonna be headin off to war with the navy anyway.


LOL, looks like the same penalty for copyright infringement.
The mandatory registration system has been in place for many years now. I would suggest you follow the advise of signing up.