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Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: sax on October 21, 2005, 07:07:56 AM
Not because of gameplay---not so very long ago the majority of the players flew this game for the visit and a chance to beat someone or thier squad
soes they good rub it in--kinda good natured stuff.

Don't see that anymore--just BBS trolls that attention deficit weenies
start cause they can't stand that nobody really cares that they are
hot-shot sticks and we all need to bow down.

All tho this would be a boring place to read without em--I miss the days of
honest good natured rivalries.

My Troll--My O2 on the AH fun-o-meter.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: T0J0 on October 21, 2005, 09:41:07 AM
This subject and post is like an AH bbs groundhogs day post...  Just do a thread search on downhill or game play...

TJ
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 21, 2005, 10:38:56 AM
I think a lot of squad have diversified over time.  I remember back in the day when the 13th, BKs, FDBs, JG2, AKs, MOL, and many more I forget all flew the same way and enjoyed the same sorts of fights.  The lack of additional gameplay really made that inevitable; furballing was the only real activity in the game.  I'm not even sure if they had ground vehicles back then.

Now you have few squads devoted to furballing alone, and you have many more squads that specialize in ground vehicles, base attack and capture, or whatever.  It's much more difficult to form friendly rivalries between squads that don't do the same sorts of things or view the game in the same sort of way.  That's unfortunate.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Westy on October 21, 2005, 11:09:58 AM
"all flew the same way and enjoyed the same sorts of fights."


Yup.  I do miss that.

  !


Westy
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Mustaine on October 21, 2005, 12:04:42 PM
To expound...

There are a few reasons I think the game has "changed", and not as appealing to some older players.

First off, things just get "old" after a while. I can not think of one game or thing i personally have been involved with and kept interest in as long as AH besides guitar. Some I think have just gotten to the point that they have seen / done everything in AH (or AW or whatever), and there is no more "challenge" to the game.

These people get frustrated when they can not find a "challenge" and do different things to show that frustration. BK's i will use as an example, only because they are probably the most recognized (no offense fellas, especially with the junk now). There are some OLD sticks in the BK's (and others in-game) that can pretty much shoot down anyone they want to if they were to really try.

these "old" sticks all have a rapport built up over 10 years of flight simming, and act a different way with each other, compared to a "2 week n00b" (at least online).

Some newer players come into the game, see some snide comments made in jest, but do not know the history of the players and the game. They take that as their queue to also act / talk in the same way. They are equal in their minds.

This changes the whole attitude while flying and the approach to the game IMHO.



Another part is selfishness. there are some players new and old, who just wont "play nice with others" these are the players that when asked on VOX or something in-game "please don’t bomb XXX" or "please help take base XXX" and they retort "STFU you can't tell me what to do, or how to play" in their frustration they sometimes act out against those same country mates just to spite them. This is a very selfish and arrogant way of thinking IMHO, but it seems to be prevalent.

These "selfish" players also don't want to "learn" or be helped in any way. They think the game works one certain way in their heads and NO ONE is going to tell them different. Think of the guys that swear you mush kill FH to capture a base, because it is not possible without. No matter what you tell them, or try and teach them about game play, they hold to their thought. Somewhere along the way they either saw, or was told some thing and take it as LAW. They in turn pass that on to new players, perpetuating the cycle.

So many times I have flown into a fight or attack or something, and hear guys talking out of their arses about how this and that works, with no clue what they are saying. When you try and help them understand it better, they just say you are wrong. Player XXXXX told them it is that way.

Add these things up, and you have a tumultuous arena.


How can it be made “better”? I am not sure. I do know one thing; the “help” radio channel is a good start. Instead of a regular influx of new players being told and taught things that are ½ truths, or blatantly incorrect about how game play works, you now have hopefully a way to teach new players correctly off the bat.

In the past a new guy would learn to type or talk, and whoever was nearby or had the time to answer would, with whatever they might know right or wrong.

I know there are no “rules” to the game, but there are some generally accepted game play situations. There are also some functions of the game that some don’t even seem to grasp. These things are the kind of question every new player will face quite early in the sim life, with no defined resource for them to go to. If they were show all the different options, and actions to take, they can make their own educated decision on what to do. As it stands right now (at least for the past 2 years) they just became a face in the “horde” following whatever moron decided to say “let’s do this”.


That, I think is why the MA has become a different place as a whole.


to add it is amazing how different you look at someone after you meet themin person @ one of the CON's. i think i have a good relationship with all the guys i met at them, and enjoy knowing them. i think that personal connection is something that really changes your view on the game.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: SunKing on October 21, 2005, 12:08:56 PM
I'm on extended break. Mainly because of the ego. Reading and hearing the same ole same ole daily just burned me out the majority of the community.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: FiLtH on October 21, 2005, 12:14:44 PM
Im sure there are all sorts of games out there that people get upset about while playing. They probably have Whack a Mole Online and someone is really good at it and it makes someone else mad.

  The thing to do is stay cool and remember its just a game. I see text ingame and in these forums of people who hate losing. Just pretend the guy you hate lives in a tar paper shack, and this is the only thing he has going for him.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Wilbus on October 21, 2005, 12:19:11 PM
I don't know, it's just not "the same" anymore. The fealing has been gone for quite a while. I am still hoping ToD will change it to the better but I don't dare hope too much.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Guppy35 on October 21, 2005, 12:39:56 PM
It all depends on what you expect from the game I think.   At this point for me it's about sharing the history stuff, and enjoying the time up with guys in my squad.  Just winging to and from a fight can be fun because of the conversation and, at times because it just looks kinda cool being part of a flight of 38s winging their way to the fight.

Last night as an example, I barely pulled the trigger on one flight, while winging with Lazer.  Fuel got low, he was single engine and I covered him back to base.  I had a blast trying to stick close while we 'hedgehopped' home over the trees.  That  was fun, just cause it looked cool.

But then again I guess I went through my high expectations phase back in AW so I don't need to replay that.  The game is what it is and I can find what I'm looking for in it and have fun while enjoying the people within the community on the boards here too and in the arena.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: GreenCloud on October 21, 2005, 01:59:10 PM
This game is great..


its you puds going down hill

whaaaa...

I always enjoy wacking you baby seals..arpgh arpgh
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Wilbus on October 21, 2005, 02:04:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GreenCloud
...I always enjoy wacking you baby seals..arpgh arpgh


Tihi. Atleast the humor is on its peak :)
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: MajWoody on October 21, 2005, 03:48:05 PM
BGB,
you owe me a new keyboard. Mine now has beer sprayed all over it.

 :rofl :rofl :lol
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2005, 04:25:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GreenCloud
This game is great..


its you puds going down hill

whaaaa...

I always enjoy wacking you baby seals..arpgh arpgh

:rofl
 MUhahhahhahaahahahaaaa.....

Prepare to eat lead and turf tonight you puds....

:D
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: straffo on October 21, 2005, 04:26:06 PM
I don't know why but my best years in AH where from 1999 to 2003.

I'm not speaking of my "skills" but the comunauty in the BBS or in the MA.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: RedTop on October 21, 2005, 04:39:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GreenCloud
This game is great..


its you puds going down hill

whaaaa...

I always enjoy wacking you baby seals..arpgh arpgh


Although I wouldn't have put it like that , to certain degree I agree. Game is fine. Community is having some issues. IMO :)
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: DipStick on October 21, 2005, 04:49:05 PM
Did seem more fun a couple years back. Probably due to burnout and boredom.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: FBBone on October 21, 2005, 06:15:10 PM
Because of people like me that can't "fly" for chit.  :cry
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: hubsonfire on October 21, 2005, 06:25:47 PM
The only thing wrong with the game is the people in it who take it so seriously.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Shane on October 21, 2005, 06:50:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
The only thing wrong with the game is the people in it who take it so seriously.


so you're saying it's going downhill due to gravitas?
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: JimBear on October 21, 2005, 06:57:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
so you're saying it's going downhill due to gravitas?



::: rimshot :::
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: crims on October 21, 2005, 08:15:30 PM
Gameplay gets better for me when I tune CH 200  OFF. :aok




Crims
479th Raiders FG
Title: Re: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 21, 2005, 10:07:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by sax
Not because of gameplay---not so very long ago the majority of the players flew this game for the visit and a chance to beat someone or thier squad
soes they good rub it in--kinda good natured stuff.

Don't see that anymore--just BBS trolls that attention deficit weenies
start cause they can't stand that nobody really cares that they are
hot-shot sticks and we all need to bow down.

All tho this would be a boring place to read without em--I miss the days of
honest good natured rivalries.

My Troll--My O2 on the AH fun-o-meter.


cloak and dagger.
Title: Why is the game going downhill?
Post by: mechanic on October 21, 2005, 10:30:05 PM
because the universe has stopped expanding and is slowly compressing into the gnab gib. creation and life its self can only get worse so a game doesnt stand a chance!!!! thats the real reason. nothing we can do about fate
Title: Re: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 21, 2005, 10:47:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by sax
Wanna know why the game is going downhill  


No;)
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Furball on October 22, 2005, 03:13:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by GreenCloud
This game is great..


its you puds going down hill

whaaaa...

I always enjoy wacking you baby seals..arpgh arpgh


LOL bgb, that was good. :)
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: kevykev56 on October 22, 2005, 10:05:17 AM
I spent the last week away from game while traveling for work. After coming home one of the first things on my mind was AH. Not as much because of playing the game but the fun I have interacting with my squad. This IMHO is what the game is about.

If gameplay is declining the It is your own fault. The game hasnt changed. The people really havent changed, there are just more of them. Not killing the next plane, but interacting with a bunch of cool guys is what it should be all about.

Some men golf, some bowl, I play AH. If your having a hard time in the game look for a new squad, look for a new style of flying. Change something because just as life, the game is what you make of it. Dont take it too serious and have some fun! :aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Wilbus on October 22, 2005, 01:54:26 PM
Straffo and Dipstick pretty much said it all.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on October 22, 2005, 04:02:37 PM
I cannot drool like the first time i drove my beetle.
But i still cannot sell it either.

had my burn out periods with AH
but i still feel the need to play.

There is just nothing better on the market than this.
Plus why change im in a nice squad now with a great bunch of people.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: ghi on October 22, 2005, 04:28:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by crims
Gameplay gets better for me when I tune CH 200  OFF. :aok




Crims
479th Raiders FG

 
 Ch.200 is fun, most of the players are gentlemens  just need to squelch, few maniacs:aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 22, 2005, 04:28:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by crims
Gameplay gets better for me when I tune CH 200  OFF. :aok




Crims
479th Raiders FG


Thats my new policy.

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: jaxxo on October 22, 2005, 11:25:19 PM
200 is the funnest part..i have talked mad smack and met people in the da and the bravado mostly turns to friendly banter...
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: MIShill on October 23, 2005, 12:45:14 AM
Mustaine did a nice job of exploring some of the major issues. For many of the more experienced players, the challenge of mastering the gameplay is gone. You either fly to be with your squadies, or to "listen" to the Ch. 200 talk. It's different for a relative newbie like me (6 mos.) but even I have limited tollerance for smack talk from endless low alt furballers.However, like many, I enjoy the community of those fascinated with WWII aircraft & air combat. This geek circus is a close as you can get to an odd world like ballroom dancing without actually having to move your feet.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Silat on October 23, 2005, 02:05:00 AM
If AH was going downhill, and Im not saying it is, then the reason would have to be TEENS:)

                 ;)

GET MY TEEN SQUELCH HACK ( Now includes ages 12 to 26 ) for only $.37!!
With each purchase get a %10 off coupon for use when ordering the LoveEwe!!
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Lye-El on October 23, 2005, 11:03:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Silat
If AH was going downhill, and Im not saying it is, then the reason would have to be TEENS:)

                 ;)

 


There is probably a fair amount of truth in that........
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Furball on October 23, 2005, 11:06:31 AM
instead of an o'club in AH you need an over 50's club..

where you can go to talk about how fun should be banned and discuss the good ol' days of AH before the youth of today spoilt everything....

may i suggest channel 250 on text for it?
Title: Rotation of players
Post by: TalonX on October 23, 2005, 11:44:25 AM
Like any pro sports team, the players come and the players go.  Often, the character of the game changes with those natural evolutions.

Our squad enjoys a wide variety of the game, and we play all aspects (to some, this makes us Tool Shedders)

You can find us in furballing in fighters, bombing strats, attacking and capturing bases, and hanging around spawn points.  No leaf unturned.

For squad nights, we focus on base capture - something we still believe to be the essence of the game.   "The Rooks have won the war."

What I find disconcerting is the intolerance.  I am not sure what to attribute that to, but if someone doesn't play exactly your style, you will find posts denigrating them.  

To each his own.

Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: kevykev56 on October 23, 2005, 12:12:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Silat
If AH was going downhill, and Im not saying it is, then the reason would have to be TEENS:)




Our squad has went through a few of these. I can say that a few havent worked out. But without a doubt we have some TEEN's in our squad that would rival many adults in attitude and maturity. Nirvana, Marco, and TheBest1 are all teens and all fun to fly with.

If more squads would take in these guys and show them how to act then maybe this teen problem you speak of would lessen. I do understand tho that it wouldnt go away, some are just too immature to even approach.

No it isnt our jobs to teach but if more people would take the time the community would be better in whole.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: doc1kelley on October 25, 2005, 11:33:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I think a lot of squad have diversified over time.  I remember back in the day when the 13th, BKs, FDBs, JG2, AKs, MOL, and many more I forget all flew the same way and enjoyed the same sorts of fights.  The lack of additional gameplay really made that inevitable; furballing was the only real activity in the game.  I'm not even sure if they had ground vehicles back then.

Now you have few squads devoted to furballing alone, and you have many more squads that specialize in ground vehicles, base attack and capture, or whatever.  It's much more difficult to form friendly rivalries between squads that don't do the same sorts of things or view the game in the same sort of way.  That's unfortunate.

-- Todd/Leviathn



Yeah, and now we have a squad that now devotes it's entire resources into trolling the BBS.  You have the nerve to complain about the lack of gameplay and have done so much damage to the AH community via the BBS and the open channel.  What a laugh.  You BK's were once respected for your skill, now the skill doesn't have any meaning for a lot of us, only contempt when we see your smiling BK faces.  Ya know that BK guy on the commercials really freaks me out. roflol

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1:rofl
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: SuperDud on October 25, 2005, 11:40:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by doc1kelley
Yeah, and now we have a squad that now devotes it's entire resources into trolling the BBS.  You have the nerve to complain about the lack of gameplay and have done so much damage to the AH community via the BBS and the open channel.  What a laugh.  You BK's were once respected for your skill, now the skill doesn't have any meaning for a lot of us, only contempt when we see your smiling BK faces.  Ya know that BK guy on the commercials really freaks me out. roflol

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1:rofl


You're absolutely right. Sorry about all the trouble.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: doc1kelley on October 25, 2005, 11:42:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
instead of an o'club in AH you need an over 50's club..

where you can go to talk about how fun should be banned and discuss the good ol' days of AH before the youth of today spoilt everything....

may i suggest channel 250 on text for it?

Yeppers, but make it over 25 club, folks like you represent the under 25 club as most have grown up and don't act like you and your squad when they are over 19 but we can make exceptions.  Most adults equate fun as being an activity that is enjoyable to others and not at the expence of a lot of others.  I guess us older farts matured much younger than your generation huh Gilligan?

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1:noid
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: daddog on October 25, 2005, 12:03:15 PM
Quote
to add it is amazing how different you look at someone after you meet themin person @ one of the CON's. i think i have a good relationship with all the guys i met at them, and enjoy knowing them. i think that personal connection is something that really changes your view on the game.
That is so true Mustaine. I tend not to get involved in the BB nonsense, but have been guilty of it I am sure. I have to say attending a couple of con’s really changed my perspective on many players. Many just love to push peoples buttons, but meet them in person and many will take their shirt off their back for you. Unfortunately the numbers that attend the cons represent a very small part of the community, but in a way they do represent part of the core community. No doubt burnout is prevalent and will remain till we start getting new AC every three months as we did years ago.

I miss those years.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Westy on October 25, 2005, 12:23:40 PM
"...you need an over 50's club.."

 Was hoping someone would bring up IQ levels.  

 And I'll quickly "second" that recommendation.
 
 Heck, charge me $39.95/month for the privilege of joining that club if it will provide the fun of 1999-2001
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: dedalos on October 25, 2005, 12:34:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by doc1kelley
Yeah, and now we have a squad that now devotes it's entire resources into trolling the BBS.  You have the nerve to complain about the lack of gameplay and have done so much damage to the AH community via the BBS and the open channel.  What a laugh.  You BK's were once respected for your skill, now the skill doesn't have any meaning for a lot of us, only contempt when we see your smiling BK faces.  Ya know that BK guy on the commercials really freaks me out. roflol

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1:rofl


You sir have figured out the problem.  Something I have been telling the BKs for a long time.  Laz should be here soon with the official appology letter.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 25, 2005, 12:38:38 PM
We have squad resources?  Why did nobody notify me of this?!?

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: gatt on October 25, 2005, 12:45:10 PM
I know why, we lack a good rolling plane set :huh
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mars01 on October 25, 2005, 02:25:59 PM
Because I never see you on anymore!  :cry Fkr!  Takeoff hoser.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Shane on October 25, 2005, 02:29:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Westy
 Was hoping someone would bring up IQ levels.  
 And I'll quickly "second" that recommendation.
Heck, charge me $39.95/month for the privilege of joining that club if it will provide the fun of 1999-2001


well in that case, i'd get a pretty good rate with my 130 iq...

just goes to show that,  iq, like money, in no way equates to class.

:aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Furball on October 25, 2005, 02:34:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by doc1kelley
Yeppers, but make it over 25 club, folks like you represent the under 25 club as most have grown up and don't act like you and your squad when they are over 19 but we can make exceptions.  Most adults equate fun as being an activity that is enjoyable to others and not at the expence of a lot of others.  I guess us older farts matured much younger than your generation huh Gilligan?

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1:noid


those chemicals been going to your head doc. :noid
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 02:34:33 PM
130?


pffftt.....


:D
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 02:35:10 PM
that's why you're laying bricks.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: lazs2 on October 25, 2005, 02:40:54 PM
I'm working on the official squad apolodgy but it might take a while.  However... I would suggest that it will be fairly soon and that all those who are offended by the BK's (both the squad and fast food mascot)....

I would suggest that holding your breath till you get said apolodgy would be an effective way to show your support for my effort.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 02:46:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus
that's why you're laying bricks.


building fences man, not laying bricks.

I'm building fences to keep people seperated from each other, because that is what people want.

i find that ammusing sometimes.

they pay me good money to keep every body else off their tiny garden, to stop anyone from seeing their lives, to make everyone and everything private and seperated.

what you do for a living is not about how smart you are, its about how free you feel while earning enough to keep those you love alive.

sometimes i can feel the most free man alive. other times i just dream it.

you still have alot to learn young one.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 02:48:35 PM
yes, high school dropouts like you keep my toilet nice and shiny.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: uberhun on October 25, 2005, 03:10:41 PM
Lazs their is no reason to appologize for an outstanding fishing expedition.
Return to the Lazman we all affectionatly know and appreciate!
:aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Westy on October 25, 2005, 03:14:05 PM
"just goes to show that, iq, like money, in no way equates to class."

 heh:)    Now aint that a slobberdonkey of truth.

 Ok ;   Since you've been a stellar example over the past few years that "iq does-not-necessarily-equal- class" how about if the standard to get in is that ones knuckles don't scrape the ground while walking?!
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: uberhun on October 25, 2005, 03:18:31 PM
Super sensitive here is a tissue for you issue is not working for me laz.
Get back to your thumping! If they can't deal, to bad eventually their ego's will heal.:furious
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Mustaine on October 25, 2005, 03:20:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
well in that case, i'd get a pretty good rate with my 130 iq...
what intardnet site sold you that statistic?
:rofl
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 03:36:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus
yes, high school dropouts like you keep my toilet nice and shiny.


I am a high school drop out.

Some people dont have the same opportunitys as others.  If you believe you are "Better" (which u obviously do) than someone else because of an education than you truly are a fool.

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 03:42:37 PM
ROFL, dave, not at all. If he wants to throw mud, he should expect to get a little dirty.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Furball on October 25, 2005, 03:43:42 PM
yay! nomak doesnt hate me anymore! he is using my avatar :)
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Stang on October 25, 2005, 03:48:49 PM
I hate you, Fluffball.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Mustaine on October 25, 2005, 03:50:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus
yes, high school dropouts like you keep my toilet nice and shiny.
hey my best friend is a high school drop out. he busts his bellybutton working at a quarry to support his family.

be nice to the un-smarty types :mad:
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Stang on October 25, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
I'm sure jeff was trolling, but yeah, he does have the tendency stick his foot in his mouth... a lot.

:D

What a purdy mouth, too.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: dedalos on October 25, 2005, 03:53:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
I'm working on the official squad apolodgy but it might take a while.  However... I would suggest that it will be fairly soon and that all those who are offended by the BK's (both the squad and fast food mascot)....

I would suggest that holding your breath till you get said apolodgy would be an effective way to show your support for my effort.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's



Just wondering if anyone is turning blue yet :D
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 25, 2005, 03:55:13 PM
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Originally posted by Silat
If AH was going downhill, and Im not saying it is, then the reason would have to be TEENS:)

                 ;)

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With each purchase get a %10 off coupon for use when ordering the LoveEwe!!


The 479th recently reached its 10 year milestone and in my opinion, one of the reasons we've lasted so long is that we do not allow anyone under 21 in the squadron.  


ack-ack
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 03:57:46 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
yay! nomak doesnt hate me anymore! he is using my avatar :)


lol never did hate you furby......

Believe it or not was actually gonna try to make a BK bashing avatar.....as a temporary kinda thing.  

The project was overbudget and understaffed and went down in flames.

Had no intent of ditching the avatar. ;)

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 03:59:32 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
I'm sure jeff was trolling, but yeah, he does have the tendency stick his foot in his mouth... a lot.

:D

What a purdy mouth, too.


yes.

no.

Mustain im sorry for your friend. Everyone is entitled to choice.

My grandfather didnt have a single cent to his name when he left highschool. He managed to take a loan out and work his ass, off to put himself through law school. It was his choice to get up and do something. He set the standard for my family, in that you can get whatever you want if you work hard enough for it.



Edit: So no I dont think im better than anyone else dave. But I wont sit here and feel bad for mechanic when in the past as he has in this thread used his life and his shortcomings to draw sympathy from others. The choice was his and his alone.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Furball on October 25, 2005, 04:01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
I hate you, Fluffball.


i hate you more. *^&$( BK! :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Originally posted by Nomak
lol never did hate you furby......

Believe it or not was actually gonna try to make a BK bashing avatar.....as a temporary kinda thing.  

The project was overbudget and understaffed and went down in flames.

Had no intent of ditching the avatar. ;)

Dave


you should have asked me, i woulda gladly made one :D
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: hubsonfire on October 25, 2005, 04:10:19 PM
I would like, after having watched the bbs melt down for the last few days, to apologize to anyone and everyone whom we failed to prevent from making a fool out of themselves after they got more concerned about the goings on of our squad than we did.

You have some very valid complaints, and countless posts bashing us, threatening us with physical violence, and personal accusations regarding our lack of maturity, dignity, and class have touched my icy little heart. The irony of you exceeding any of our prior actions and posts, to make a point with us regarding our treatment of the community was not lost on us, and in the future, we will try our very best to keep you, a group of grown men, who are chock full to the gills with class, compassion, and human emotion, from getting so terribly involved in the make-believe lives of others.

Warmest retards,
hub
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Shane on October 25, 2005, 04:15:45 PM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
what intardnet site sold you that statistic?
:rofl


don't hate me because i'm handsome; hate me because i'm smart, possess mad game skillz, and rub your nose in it. :aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Mustaine on October 25, 2005, 04:25:56 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus

Mustain im sorry for your friend. Everyone is entitled to choice.
.
and i set the hook gingerly....

:rofl


he seriously is exatcly like i said really, but he's cool with it, supports a family of 4 children, and all is good. :aok he just had some bad luck and hung with the wrong crowd back then, got kicked out of school for having a knife (one of those keychain swiss army things), and has lived fine since then.

so in closing there is nothing to be sorry about :aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Mustaine on October 25, 2005, 04:26:48 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
don't hate me because i'm handsome; hate me because i'm smart, possess mad game skillz, and rub your nose in it. :aok
i don't hate you for any of those imaginary qualities :p :rofl
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Vudak on October 25, 2005, 06:16:12 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I would suggest that it will be fairly soon and that all those who are offended by the BK's (both the squad and fast food mascot)....



I'm actually quite fond of your fast food mascot, it doesn't speak :p

j/k :D

While we're at it, heck, I'm a high school drop out too (figured I already knew how to read, and was going to wind up in a state college anyway, so why not enjoy my youth).
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: weaselsan on October 25, 2005, 06:57:10 PM
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Originally posted by crims
Gameplay gets better for me when I tune CH 200  OFF. :aok

It's as simple as that...the morons are just talking at air lol.




Crims
479th Raiders FG
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 07:09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
.....Edit: So no I dont think im better than anyone else dave.


But that is exactly what you said.  "high school dropouts like you keep my toilet nice and shiny"  How could that possibly express any other sentiment?  How could that possibly not bring forth images of "I am above and you are below"

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But I wont sit here and feel bad for mechanic when in the past as he has in this thread used his life and his shortcomings to draw sympathy from others. The choice was his and his alone.


Your ability to psychoanalyze from the BB text is most impressive.  My old man is a psyc proff at UofM.  I will have to run it by him but I am sure he will want you as a guest speaker in all of his classes.  They will be in awe of your deductive powers.

Here is the part that you lack the vision to see.....

Your (at times) broad generalizations can offend more people than your intended target.

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 07:10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Vudak
While we're at it, heck, I'm a high school drop out too (figured I already knew how to read, and was going to wind up in a state college anyway, so why not enjoy my youth).


LOL Yes, I sorta felt that way after highschool you could say... Took a semester off after HS then realized all the watermelon I was missing. ie, limitless amounts Girls, parties, hang overs that last for days or sometimes weeks, skipping class to hang out with some meaningless chick, strip poker, spring bash's, and then busting your hump to get through a class that you skipped basicly the entire semester.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 07:12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Nomak
But that is exactly what you said.  "high school dropouts like you keep my toilet nice and shiny"  How could that possibly express any other sentiment?  How could that possibly not bring forth images of "I am above and you are below"

 

Your ability to psychoanalyze from the BB text is most impressive.  My old man is a psyc proff at UofM.  I will have to run it by him but I am sure he will want you as a guest speaker in all of his classes.  They will be in awe of your deductive powers.

Here is the part that you lack the vision to see.....

Your (at times) broad generalizations can offend more people than your intended target.

Dave


jesus christ dave, give it a rest. It was a troll to counter his. And he bit. Sorry if you didnt like it. Do you really have to write a book to simply say that you are upset?
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: SuperDud on October 25, 2005, 07:21:01 PM
OK, I can end this debate right now. I am the reason this game has gone down hill. Plz accept my humble apologies. There, we can all move on now.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 25, 2005, 07:21:43 PM
I concur.  SuperDud is the problem.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: BlkKnit on October 25, 2005, 07:23:22 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
yes, high school dropouts like you keep my toilet nice and shiny.



ummm...not to change the subject, but.......


What does this job pay and how good is the insurance package?
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 07:23:33 PM
Careful what you say, Mechanic will "Puffy your eye".
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: ahgod69 on October 25, 2005, 07:24:39 PM
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Originally posted by Nomak

 My old man is a psyc proff at UofM.  I will have to run it by him but I am sure he will want you as a guest speaker in all of his classes.  They will be in awe of your deductive powers.[/B]


What's his name?  My niece just graduated from there and had quite a few Pyscho classes.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 07:24:40 PM
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Originally posted by BlkKnit
ummm...not to change the subject, but.......


What does this job pay and how good is the insurance package?


LOL thank god, finnaly someone with a sense of humor.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: SuperDud on October 25, 2005, 07:24:43 PM
Honestly..what is puffy your eye??? Is that like getting "red eye"???
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 07:25:17 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
jesus christ dave, give it a rest. It was a troll to counter his. And he bit. Sorry if you didnt like it. Do you really have to write a book to simply say that you are upset?


heheheh..... just words man :lol   you know its not real and all.  Heres a hint.... just click the little x in the upper right hand corner.....

Never said I was upset.  Just pointing out your complete lack of respect for others (again).  Perhaps your deductive powers aernt so deductive after all.  Hmmmm..... and I thought you could always tell the posters intended purpose, mood, motivations etc etc from just the text.

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: SuperDud on October 25, 2005, 07:26:19 PM
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Originally posted by Nomak
Heres a hint.... just click the little x in the upper right hand corner.....


Dave


LMAO!@! PWN3D3D@#@#
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 07:27:11 PM
ROFL, well well well Mr Sesitive to our needs/Dr Phill decides to lay  bait?

Nah, nice attempted save though. :D

Remember, you're now representing Aces High as part of the Aces High Training Corp... You cant troll. And you gots yur image n' cit to uphold.


Btw, Congrats on that whole trainer deal. I know you finnaly found your niche in the game. Seriously though, Im glad for you.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 07:41:01 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
ROFL, well well well Mr Sesitive to our needs/Dr Phill decides to lay  bait?

Nah, nice attempted save though. :D

Remember, you're now representing Aces High as part of the Aces High Training Corp... You cant troll. And you gots yur image n' cit to uphold.


<----tap tap tap>  I cant seem to get through.......

I meant every word of it Jeff.   Doesnt mean that I am upset.  I am secure enough to not worry about how you view the averege HS dropout.

Just throwing your speaw back at you.  How does it taste?  I really didnt care for it myself.

That is exactly what you do..... correct?  Ride someone till they are worked up (like you just were.....oh wait you dont get upset at text im sorry).  Then just throw up the hands and say "Its a troll".  All to often looks to me like an excuse for people who dont want to take responsibility for the things that they have said.

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 07:42:17 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus

Btw, Congrats on that whole trainer deal. I know you finnaly found your niche in the game. Seriously though, Im glad for you.


TY Jeff ;)

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 07:46:57 PM
Im sorry was that getting worked up? I thought getting worked up meant freaking out at anyone near by then quiting.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 08:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Im sorry was that getting worked up? I thought getting worked up meant freaking out at anyone near by then quiting.


Well well, I knew this would come sooner or later.

When you are presented with respones that actually have thought and reason behind them that you cannot repel with you usual "Its only a game lighten up" you swing with the low blow.

Your hypocrisy is obvious at this point on many levels.  You toss insults out like snow duds at the movies not giving a second thought the consequences and when its thrown back at you, you reply with your usual rhetoric.  Claiming the offender has no life, needs a girlfriend, is jelious of you..... same ol same ol.  Its obvious you dont like it when its even remotly done to you.  Then the whole "Its just the net...... this crap cant possibly upset me" veil is transparent at this point.  It carries no water.  Because its simply not true.  If you were not upset at least on some level that comment would have never come.

I have seen other BKs "Fold under questioning" a time or two before.  Albeit not very often.  Usually thats when Levi steps in as he is the most shrewd of the borg collective I think.  

Its all good though.  I am guilty as charged.  Wont deny it.  Wont even attempt to.

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Nomak on October 25, 2005, 08:30:36 PM
I am ready to be done with this.  Time to fly instead of post.

Dave
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 08:34:14 PM
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I have seen other BKs "Fold under questioning" a time or two before. Albeit not very often. Usually thats when Levi steps in as he is the most shrewd of the borg collective I think.


LOL WHAT??? Levi what? yeah
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: SuperDud on October 25, 2005, 08:40:41 PM
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Originally posted by Nomak
I have seen other BKs "Fold under questioning" a time or two before.  Albeit not very often.  Usually thats when Levi steps in as he is the most shrewd of the borg collective I think.  
 



No truely and honestly I think Laz wins that title. He even offends me sometimes!
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 09:46:27 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
well in that case, i'd get a pretty good rate with my 130 iq...

just goes to show that,  iq, like money, in no way equates to class.

:aok


i was only 'pffftt'ing because i would have judged your essential IQ to be higher than that shane, i mean thats only just into triple figures. your ability to think lateraly and your speed of response and self understanding come very quickly and naturally to you.   alot of studies show a subject tested at age 20 will have dropped up to 10 marks from the iq score they would have achieved aged 10, at the peak of the natural learning sense.

at age 9 i scored 152 at an official test center, and a year ago on one of those net tests i only scored 134. I am 2 months from my 23rd birthday. I can  only blame alcohol, cannabis and free love for this drop in brain speed.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Shane on October 25, 2005, 10:04:22 PM
yeah, that's what happened to with my testing, too... :noid

at age 10 i was already reading college level and doing hs math...

it all went to pot when i hit kollegde... girls booze drugs and IM sports along with the usual EC activities of running both the student gov't and newspaper (not concurrently, tho', alas  :noid ).

i'd say my iq has dropped another 10 points for getting married and having a kid :cry

with another 10 lost due from excessive exposure to you morons who frequent this game and BBS. :furious
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: hubsonfire on October 25, 2005, 10:12:08 PM
Less pursefighting, more sad clown pictures.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: gofaster on October 25, 2005, 10:23:27 PM
If we had the Sherman tank with calliope rocket pack, this problem would go away!  :furious
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: BBQ_Bob on October 25, 2005, 10:24:38 PM
Why is the game going downhill ? I don't want to mention any names cause I am not that kind of person, but there initials are BK.   :aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 10:47:37 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Less pursefighting, more sad clown pictures.



would you be a sad clown if this clown was helping you out of your costume after a tiering shoot that meant you were helping her out immeasurably and there was only one way to be repaid?

(http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/2004_0119_130048AA.JPG)
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: megadud on October 25, 2005, 10:51:42 PM
depends.. is that a boy clown or a girl clown? :p

j/k :D :aok
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 10:55:50 PM
that my friend, is one of the meanest women i have ever encountered. totally ruthless. but damnit i still love her even though i finished it.


do you really get boys this beautifull in the states? man you dont know how lucky y'all are.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 10:57:30 PM
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Originally posted by mechanic
would you be a sad clown if this clown was helping you out of your costume after a tiering shoot that meant you were helping her out immeasurably and there was only one way to be repaid?

(http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/2004_0119_130048AA.JPG)



Depends
Maybe if I wanted to spend the next 20 years in prison with bubba and no balls because that 14yr old girl clowns dad cut my nuts off.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 10:59:56 PM
haha you fool.


shes my age, six months younger infact. have known here since i was 16 at college. this shoot was done sometime about a year and a half ago, we must have been between 20 and 21. sorry our natural youthfull looks make you jealous.

and her father died when she was 14 of MS so i doubt there will be much trouble there.   but again ya had to open your big mouth before you thought.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 11:02:02 PM
I was actually thinking she looked more like 15-16 but stuck with 14. I thought you said you never went to college? Now I know you're lying.


HAHA zomFG u FOOL!!!11oneoneone!!!
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Vudak on October 25, 2005, 11:03:28 PM
Batfink we really need to get you a decent paint program with a resize button :p
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 11:03:37 PM
"I thought you said you never went to college? Now I know you're lying.


once again a thoughtless reply. you really are a very stupid smart person.

shall i explain my upbring and education to you, do you really care?
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 11:05:46 PM
Mmmm no I do not want to know. I already knwo. zOMFG you lie.

ROFL.

She does look young though. Which you SHOULD take as a compliment if you werent so thick headed you probably would.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 11:08:50 PM
at a very young age i swore never again to do anything i was so ashamed of i would be forced to lie.  its worked so far.

and yup, i'm supposed to take 'having my balls cut off by her dead father for assaulting his obviously underage daughter, and living my life in a cell with bubba" as a compliment.

you're funny.

not funny haha, like funny how you look at someone walking down the street prancing like a leading prize bull but not realising they have toilet paper stuck to their foot.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 11:11:13 PM
I dont think I said that you were going to have your little testies chopped off by her daddy. I said if I wanted to have my balls cut off by her daddy then yes, I would like to date her. :) Then go to jail.

Yes, Im sure of it. That's what I said. zOMFG lets drop anotha acid tab!!! wooooowooooo!!!
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 25, 2005, 11:14:09 PM
your ever increasingly pointless replies and outlooks on life do nothing to further your progression to becoming my eternal slave.  the end is written by fate, you cannot escape the reality.

drugs are bad, m'kay, but only if you let them turn you into a poopy head, m'kay.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 25, 2005, 11:16:55 PM
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Originally posted by mechanic
your ever increasingly pointless replies and outlooks on life do nothing to further your progression to becoming my eternal slave.  the end is written by fate, you cannot escape the reality.

drugs are bad, m'kay, but only if you let them turn you into a poopy head, m'kay.


My increasingly pointless replies? Do you not see the overwhelming irony in that statement after reading the rest of your above post?

zOMFG u r teh craZY brit clown bOIE!!!11oneoneone!!11
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: hubsonfire on October 26, 2005, 01:05:24 AM
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Originally posted by mechanic
would you be a sad clown if this clown was helping you out of your costume after a tiering shoot that meant you were helping her out immeasurably and there was only one way to be repaid?

(http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/2004_0119_130048AA.JPG)


If I am ever so desparate that I'm considering shagging any clowns whatsoever, I hope that I shall have the good grace to shoot myself, and not miss.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 26, 2005, 08:07:03 AM
zOMFG where picture go!?
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 26, 2005, 09:05:51 AM
couldnt be bothered to host it anymore, what was the point.



you wouldnt have started slagging off nomak's children, or Vudaks grirl, or BGB's wife?

no, but you would happily sit there and be incredibly rude about someone in my life that you don't even know.


why are you thanking God for internet cache, are you planning to retrieve her picture and violate it in private?



this is a person in my life, a real person.




If Hitech posted a picture of his loved ones, would you ridicule them pubicly and in a childish and disgusting manner?


i may have said things about you personaly morph, but remember that i respected your dog's death, because the dog is not you.

feel free to insult me, big man, but i draw the line at my loved ones. this should be a formal complaint to hitech. anything more slanderous than calling a lady in my life 'a 14 year old boy who only a desperate person would go near and would end up in prison"?
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: Morpheus on October 26, 2005, 09:16:06 AM
wtf?

I never slagged off at "your girl". You never said she was your girl in the first place. lol.

All I said was she looked really young.
Title: Wanna know why the game is going downhill
Post by: mechanic on October 26, 2005, 09:19:55 AM
you're pathetic.

want me to go to work on that pic of your mutt?

photoshop first then a full obituary in a seperate thread.










nah, i just dont have it in me.