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Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: RAIDER14 on October 21, 2005, 08:56:26 PM
Germans had a B-17  http://www.303rdbg.com/pp-wulfehound.html
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Krusty on October 21, 2005, 09:04:12 PM
Yes. The Germans had a special unit that tested and examined captured allied aircraft. They captured most of the planeset (as did the allies to the axis) but they painted theirs in bright yellow colors and flew them around to units to explain the weaknesses and strengths of the plane in question. Once or twice they'd take a B17 and NOT repaint it, move into formation with other bombers and try to shoot them down, but that was less common.
Title: Re: Germans had a B-17
Post by: viper215 on October 21, 2005, 09:47:24 PM
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Germans had a B-17  http://www.303rdbg.com/pp-wulfehound.html


So does AH so what are you complaining about.
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Treize69 on October 21, 2005, 11:17:29 PM
And the Romanians had 3 B-24s, wanna cookie? ;)
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 21, 2005, 11:21:50 PM
Japanese had some too.



ack-ack
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: storch on October 21, 2005, 11:52:28 PM
KG200 had lots of 'm
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: 1K3 on October 22, 2005, 12:01:23 AM
even luftwaffe had spitfires!(http://www.luftwaffe-experten.co.uk/capspit/n3277-02.jpg)
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Bodhi on October 22, 2005, 12:10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Once or twice they'd take a B17 and NOT repaint it, move into formation with other bombers and try to shoot them down, but that was less common.


Actually, they would take the aircraft in question and shadow a buff group and report the headings and altitude to a ground ack station so they were sure to set their fuses right.

They did this more than once or twice, enough so that USAAF gunners were warned to look at squadron amrkings when unknowns approached the groups.
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: ahgod69 on October 22, 2005, 01:17:51 AM
Didn't Germany invent the lightbulb?
Title: Re: Re: Germans had a B-17
Post by: SkyChimp on October 22, 2005, 01:20:39 AM
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Originally posted by viper215
So does AH so what are you complaining about.


Whats this post have to do with you and the comments he just saying germans had a b17 (maybe hes trying to say they should let us have a german 17)
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Masherbrum on October 22, 2005, 01:38:27 AM
There was a 38 near Italy that was captured, and piloted by an axis pilot that would pretend to escort a buff home.  They were always wounded, he would stick with them, and then after they got comfy, he'd light them up.  It worked a couple of times, he was lit up himself.

Karaya
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: frank3 on October 22, 2005, 05:35:28 AM
They actually had to set a trap for him with (I believe) an YB-17?

I also believe the 'P-38-pilot' was Italian, but spoke English perfectly
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: storch on October 22, 2005, 07:35:44 AM
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Originally posted by ahgod69
Didn't Germany invent the lightbulb?
pfft everyone knows al gore invented the light bulb.
Title: I already have people working on it
Post by: RAIDER14 on October 22, 2005, 09:58:27 AM
I have some people working on german B-17 skin :aok
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Larry on October 22, 2005, 10:25:02 AM
They wont get it into the game. Skuzzy said many times NO capured skins.
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Morpheus on October 22, 2005, 10:33:34 AM
(http://www.furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/userfiles/Morpheus/p38.jpg)
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 22, 2005, 10:51:43 AM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
There was a 38 near Italy that was captured, and piloted by an axis pilot that would pretend to escort a buff home.  They were always wounded, he would stick with them, and then after they got comfy, he'd light them up.  It worked a couple of times, he was lit up himself.

Karaya


Do you remember what book you read that in? I remember reading that,but not sure what book.
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Treize69 on October 22, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
"A single P-38G was captured intact by the Italians during the war when the pilot landed at an Italian base by mistake, and this Lightning was flown in combat against Allied aircraft, but this aircraft was quickly grounded due to lack of parts. Two Lightnings that were forced to land in Lisbon, Portugal, while on a ferry flight from England to Algeria were interned and operated by the Portugese, apparently with American blessing."

copied from http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avp38.html

And this http://ferdiepacheco.com/Renegade%20Lightning.htm may have led to some of the amazingly rediculous embellishments I've heard pop up.
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Oldman731 on October 22, 2005, 11:09:40 AM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Do you remember what book you read that in? I remember reading that,but not sure what book.

Bet it was Martin Caiden's "Fork-Tailed Devil."  Unless there's a better source than that, I doubt the accuracy of the story.

- oldman
Title: Germans had a B-17
Post by: Grendel on October 22, 2005, 02:13:35 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
There was a 38 near Italy that was captured, and piloted by an axis pilot that would pretend to escort a buff home.  They were always wounded, he would stick with them, and then after they got comfy, he'd light them up.  It worked a couple of times, he was lit up himself.

Karaya


Urban myth. Martin Caidan made that up himself. History of the Italian P-38s is a  bit different and way less dramatic.