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Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: mussie on October 22, 2005, 10:53:30 PM
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WWII Stats for the Republic P-47 Thunderbolt
First flight: May 6, 1941
Total produced: 15, 683
Most units built - P-47D: 12,602
Average cost of P-47D: $82,997
Engine: R2800-59
Power: 2000/2300 H.P.
Propeller: 13 Feet
Fuel internal: 305 U.S. gal.
Fuel external: 375 U.S. gal.
Service celing: 40,000 ft.
Armament: 8 ea. 50 cal. mg
with from 267 to 425 rpm
Bombs: 2 x 1000 lb., or 3 x 500, etc.;
max load of  2,500 lbs.
546,000 combat sorties with a combat loss rate of only 0.7 percent.
132,000 tons of bombs dropped
135 million rounds of 50 cal. fired
1-1/2 million hours of combat
20 million gal of fuel consumed
11,878 Enemy planes destroyed;
1/2 in the air; 1/2 on the ground
160,000 military vehicles destroyed
9,000 enemy locomotives destroyed
More victories than any other
American aircraft in W.W.II
Dimensions
Span: 40 ft. 9-5/15 in.
Length: 30 ft. 1-3/4 in.
Height: 14 ft. 8-1/16 in.
Wing area: 300 sq. ft.
Weight: 9,900 lbs. (empty)
Gross: 14,000 lbs.
Max: 17,000 lbs.
Speeds
Max: 426 mph at 30,000 ft.
Landing: 106 mph
Climb
6 min. to 15,000 ft.
13.5 min to 30,000 ft.
Range
Max: 800 miles at 10,000 ft. (4.2 hrs.)
Normal: 390 miles at 25,000 ft.http://www.p47advocates.com/thep47.html (http://www.p47advocates.com/thep47.html)
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Raptor on October 23, 2005, 12:37:01 AM
Out of all those fired at enemy planes, I wonder if any of the stray bullets hit any unsuspecting civilians
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: mussie on October 23, 2005, 12:38:45 AM
Way to put a downer on my thread....
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: bozon on October 23, 2005, 04:08:22 AM
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Out of all those fired at enemy planes, I wonder if any of the stray bullets hit any unsuspecting civilians

I always wondered how it has been like to watch a massive arial combat from the ground below:
First, it's a drop tanks bombardment.
Second,  it rains empty shells, ammo-belt parts and even stray bullets and cannons.
Thirds, burning planes start falling on you.

sounds like fun :)
Bozon
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 23, 2005, 04:25:38 AM
I don't think stray bullets were a major concern at a time when allies were terror bombing major cities with firebombs.
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Suave on October 23, 2005, 05:32:29 AM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
I don't think stray bullets were a major concern at a time when allies were terror bombing major cities with firebombs.


Yeah. Watch the film "Thunderbolt", after they dropped their bombs those p47 pilots shot everything that moved and many things that didn't.

There's one scene where  this p47 wing is prowling around Italy after having bombed a bridge. They're inspecting farm houses for enemy supplies. How do you do that from inside the cockpit of a flying p47? Well they would hose down every house they saw with 50cal and see if anything exploded.

They libruhls won't let army pilots do that anymore. :mad:
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Pooh21 on October 23, 2005, 06:35:33 AM
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Originally posted by bozon
I always wondered how it has been like to watch a massive arial combat from the ground below:
First, it's a drop tanks bombardment.
Second,  it rains empty shells, ammo-belt parts and even stray bullets and cannons.
Thirds, burning planes start falling on you.

sounds like fun :)
Bozon
I had a cool dream about this once. it rained ord. spent bullets, dead spitfire pilots on fire. this dream rocked.
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Furball on October 23, 2005, 06:49:18 AM
some of you people are properly screwed up.

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Originally posted by Pooh21
I had a cool dream about this once. it rained ord. spent bullets, dead spitfire pilots on fire. this dream rocked.


You need help.  You enjoyed a dream about pilots being on fire? ever heard of the guinea pig club?

Some people make me sick.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/images/guinea_pig2_gal.jpg)

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/images/guinea_pig3_gal.jpg)
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: storch on October 23, 2005, 07:32:07 AM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
Out of all those fired at enemy planes, I wonder if any of the stray bullets hit any unsuspecting civilians
After Erich Hartmann was captured by the Soviets he was put on trail for his "offenses".  One of the "offenses" was the injuring and killing of innocent civilians.  when Hartmann contended that he had never fired upon an innocent person the "judges" asked if every shot he fired hit his intended target.  When Hartmann responded truthfully that certainly some would have missed, the imbecillic communist panel of "judges" responded with a ten year sentence to be served in the gulags.
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: DipStick on October 23, 2005, 09:06:53 AM
(http://www.thebattlezone.com/decals/decalpix//dl-mi-127.jpg)
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Mr No Name on October 23, 2005, 05:11:46 PM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
I don't think stray bullets were a major concern at a time when allies were terror bombing major cities with firebombs.



Terror bombing???  Thats total war, we should be doing more of that now... i say if youre in a WAR, all is fair.   You play to win or you dont play.
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Morpheus on October 23, 2005, 05:12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Pooh21
I had a cool dream about this once. it rained ord. spent bullets, dead spitfire pilots on fire. this dream rocked.


what the hell is wrong with you?

Lock and delete this thread asap. Its going no where fast. One thing to troll, entirely different when you get aholes like this saying that kind of crap.
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Raptor on October 23, 2005, 05:31:04 PM
I did not mean to cause anything by my post, I was just curious if it ever happened or not. My thoughts were more along the lines of a farmer driving his tractor and seeing a drop tank land nearby making him wet himself.
I would think when aircraft were nearby airraid sirens went off and most people went into their basement or something.


With so many bullets fired, is it common to go out and find bullet casings on the ground?
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: Slash27 on October 23, 2005, 11:00:23 PM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
I don't think stray bullets were a major concern at a time when allies were terror bombing major cities with firebombs.



Weak attempt at trolling, very weak.
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: storch on October 23, 2005, 11:46:53 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
I did not mean to cause anything by my post, I was just curious if it ever happened or not. My thoughts were more along the lines of a farmer driving his tractor and seeing a drop tank land nearby making him wet himself.
I would think when aircraft were nearby airraid sirens went off and most people went into their basement or something.


With so many bullets fired, is it common to go out and find bullet casings on the ground?
my accountant served during Korea and he tells of being in a foxhole during the fight at chosin when some relatively high alt furballs developed and drop tanks started raining around them.  I guess it really must have been demoralizing to be a ground pounder
Title: Thats a lot of 50 cal
Post by: 1K3 on October 24, 2005, 12:39:32 AM
like the FW-190, the P-47 is the best workhorse plane we ever had in WWII.