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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 1K3 on October 23, 2005, 01:33:22 AM
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Anyone?
i think the rockets are too small but kinda accurate. Speed penalty is present because of the bomb racks. I wonder what's gonna be the speed lost for typhoons and F4Us armed with rocket/bomb racks.
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Originally posted by 1K3
Anyone?
i think the rockets are too small but kinda accurate. ]
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Those rockets on Fw190F8, are panzer blitz, armor piercing not high explosive like all other rkts in game,
Try them on gvs, hard to hit but deadly
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panzer blitz is an improved panzershreck if I remember well.
190F8 should have special armor on the front to sustain ground fire also.
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I prefer to use A8 instead. Same big bomb and those 50kgs are not worth those snapping weak wings.
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Originally posted by Charge
I prefer to use A8 instead. Same big bomb and those 50kgs are not worth those snapping weak wings.
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I saw the wing spar for an FW 190F-8 at the White One Foundation's restoration facility in Kissimee Florida. the wing spar on the FW190 is an I-beam that is 6" x 6" x 1/2 structural aluminum. it runs the full lenght of the wing. there was no way an FW190 would shear a wing off. I have never experienced breaking a wing on a 190 in the game. If it occurs then perhaps that may be the easiest way to represent catastrophic structural failure in the model.
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The A8 is the better ground attack version in this game, owing to the carnage the guns can deliver on town buildings and ack emplacements. Plus those four .20mms and two 17mm can do a very nice vulch job on upping fighters.
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Use it quite a bit.
Little slow on the go fully loaded but very effective on gv's try it!
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I find it useless , completely useless for anything !
dead mans ride ...
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Originally posted by storch
I saw the wing spar for an FW 190F-8 at the White One Foundation's restoration facility in Kissimee Florida. the wing spar on the FW190 is an I-beam that is 6" x 6" x 1/2 structural aluminum. it runs the full lenght of the wing. there was no way an FW190 would shear a wing off. I have never experienced breaking a wing on a 190 in the game. If it occurs then perhaps that may be the easiest way to represent catastrophic structural failure in the model.
I snapped them both off on a D9. I have no idea on how each of the 190s' are built in respect to each of the variations. But they snapped like a toothpick. There was alot of talk about d9 wings snapping though back when that happened to me.
I like the F8, also it has rockets for GV's and oh yes, vulching! Then a crap load of 20mm.
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F8 is almost useless because of weak wings. You cant dive, you cant pull any G, tried couple of times but it is totally crap...
It was better before new model.
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Originally posted by mipoikel
F8 is almost useless because of weak wings. You cant dive, you cant pull any G, tried couple of times but it is totally crap...
It was better before new model.
Can i have what you're smoking???;) I can still pull decent Gs in 190s Of course re-modeled planes will have some sort of G tolerance structure limits. This is not only in FW, i suspect that Spit 9/14 and Mustangs have less G tolerance for wings.
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Umm what are you smoking 1k3 I've never snapped wings in anything except LW planes.
The frontal armor does work though, I shot an f8 dead center in the engine block with a field gun and it didn't seem to get damage.
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Originally posted by CHECKERS
I find it useless , completely useless for anything !
dead mans ride ...
I agree. Flew it in the CT once just to say I got kills in a F8.
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Mustang snaps it's wings very easily. Me262 is the only other fighter I recall having any easy time of it,
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Originally posted by Karnak
Mustang snaps it's wings very easily. Me262 is the only other fighter I recall having any easy time of it,
yup on the P51, that's another ride that should not snap wings.
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Originally posted by storch
yup on the P51, that's another ride that should not snap wings.
Why not? It was known to do it in reality.
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what uberhun said.
hap
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You folks need to learn how to reduce your throttle and slow yourself while in a dive.
I havent snapped my wons off in any fighter in over two years. And I dive in all kinds of AC. 190's 109' 110s 262s 152's you name it I
Havent had wings rip due to Gs either.
Had em blown off by ack or gunfire form other planes. But havent ripped em
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Course now that I've said that I'll probably rip wings for the next 3 daysLOL
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i really liked the F-8 and i wished it had a bit more powerful engine to match typhoon's speed on ground :)
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ps does out 190F-8 have more armor than 190A-8? If yes it should not because the the only difference between the A-8 and the F-8 is the canopy, and weapon loadouts.
EDIT: i found that early batches of 190F-8 had armor but later removed to increase performance. DOes our 190F-8 have heavy armor or lite armore like all 190s?
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Drediock just remember to lower flaps when you b&z in the 262 tsk tsk.. :D
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Originally posted by 1K3
ps does out 190F-8 have more armor than 190A-8? If yes it should not because the the only difference between the A-8 and the F-8 is the canopy, and weapon loadouts.
I told you to stop reading books from Walmart. Where do you guys come up with this information????
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Drediock just remember to lower flaps when you b&z in the 262 tsk tsk.. :D
If your referring to my augering lst night going afte a low 24 I was flying with only 2/3ds of my right wing intact and got greedy going for "just one more kill" before I headed home.
If your not. I have no idea what your talking about.
I primarily use 262s to pork bases anyway LOL
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Originally posted by Karnak
Mustang snaps it's wings very easily. Me262 is the only other fighter I recall having any easy time of it,
Spitfire wings will snap off also when they reach high enough speeds and it 's not due to any flaw with the modeling.
Once of the fun things to do in a P-38 is trying to get a Spitfire that is dumb enough to follow you in a 500MPH+ dive and seeing them break off their wings. I did that to Triumph and Growler1 a few weeks ago. They bounced me from up high so I unloaded, hit WEP and dove straight to the deck. When my plane started to buffet, I looked to my starboard side and saw Triumph go screaming past in his Spitfire minus the wings, followed shortly afterwards by Growler1 screaming past, also minus his wings.
ack-ack
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i been flying 190F with fighter loadout lately and i notice it manuvers better than 190A-8 loaded with just 2x 20mm cannons. Is this true or just my illusion?
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I like it for JABO.
Rockets seem heavy and prone to hitting lower then the rox from allied birds.
Rockets also seem to do allot of damage.
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Give me the F8 and I will hunt any GV that drives out from the trees the 500KG bomb and the 12 rockets are perfect for everything from buildings to tigers.
I like to come in drop on a panzer or tiger then if they aren't down or immobilized I will come back in and target them with 2-3 rockets at a time.
If you get rid of all your ordinance it can mix it up with the fighters as long as you stay fast and it can absorb a lot of fire, even cannon fire from LA7. As far as ripping wings off, I have been in a 500 mph dive with everything shaking and groaning and haven't ripped the wings off yet, didn't catch the AR234 but I did catch the 109 G10 as he was trying to gain height to get back in the fight.
Play to its stregths, which are as a ground attacker and you will frustrate the M16 gunners no end when they light you up and you fly away to return and kill them:D
I would say it carries fairly heavy armour based on the amount of fire I have taken when in the GA mode and then when some spit or 51 jumps my six, I have been PM'd that I must be cheating , because they fired half thier ammo loadout and I was still in the air.
It works best when you are part of a group attacking or defending, since you can concentrate on the ground attack aspect, instead of having to jettison your ordinance and trying to get height and speed.
Going to concentrate on using it more often, since I like the Ground attack mode with a little air to air and some buff hunting.
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As an airfirld suppresion attack aircraft, I think it's tops. Two of them can easily kill the VH and Radar, deack without taking damage, clean up any GVs that get out and vulch until the cows come home or the town is down and troops are there. However, if your a Knight, my bet is the cows come home first ;)
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Originally posted by CHECKERS
I find it useless , completely useless for anything !
dead mans ride ...
Yeh..What Checkers sed.
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Originally posted by CHECKERS
I find it useless , completely useless for anything !
dead mans ride ...
can i have what you're smoking???:p
Its the best axis strike aircraft they have
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190F-8 seem to turn better than 190A-8 (with just 2x 20mm cannon and 2x 51 cal):huh
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People fly the F-8?
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1K3, I will be gentle with this, but you are pretty much clueless on Axis rides. It is not the best strike aircraft in AH by far for the Axis. The 190 F8 turns like a pregnant woman reaching for a donut, ok maybe not that fast. If you are turning in it, you are doing something wrong. Best way to figure it out, take someone to the DA challenge same fuel same weapon loadout and see what happens. I love the plane, but it is not the first thing I think of taking to a field, a 110 G or a 190 A8 come to mind first.
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A8 turns better than 190f....F has added pilot armour so it is heavier i do believe.
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Drediock the reason I said it was because 262 turns excellently when flaps are deployed.
It also snaps wings ridiculously easy when flown that way. Without flaps you can pull your hearts might practically, with flaps it almost takes a stick spike to kill the wings.
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When HT and PYRO was in charge of Warbirds, FW190a8 was a sturmbock hybrid ( with extra armor plating etc)
Can this be true for AH FW190A8 also ?