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Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Eagler on October 23, 2005, 09:08:09 AM

saw something on tv yesterday about the tunnels under Paris and how they are full of bones as at one time the cemetaries were emptied and the bodies/bones where stashed under the city.
Is this true?
If so, why don't the frenchies kinda clean that up?
Seems sorta strange from here .. can't see anyone allowing the dead to be stashed under their city in tunnels and left there here in the states.

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: gofaster on October 23, 2005, 09:40:26 AM

Catacombs.

Historical preservation.

Are considered proper burial.

Halloween is coming!

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: straffo on October 23, 2005, 09:43:31 AM

It's not the tunnels but "catacombes" , some other city have those like Rome.

I guess picts like this one are a bit disturbing :
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Catacombs-700px.jpg)

Well ,i'ts not only a place full of bones , it's also a place full of history ,myth and legends.

Actually the catacombes were build because the Saint Innocent graveyard was a worst  (think of odor, desease etc ...)

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: straffo on October 23, 2005, 09:45:46 AM

btw I found a text about the Innocent graveyard  I've not the time to translate it now but even with an online translator it should be more than enought :

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Saturée d'engrais humain, cette terre exhalait des miasmes pestilentiels. Des accidents se produisirent, de plus en plus fréquents, de plus en plus graves, dans les quartiers situés autour de ce charnier (...). Durant les chaleurs de l'été, les exhalaisons étaient telles, aux environs des cimetières, « que les aliments les plus nécessaires à la vie ne pouvaient se conserver que quelques heures dans les maisons sans s'y corrompre ». Voltaire écrit dans son Dictionnaire philosophique : « Vous ne voyez ni à Rome, ni dans le reste de l'Italie aucun de ces abominables cimetières entourer les églises ; l'infection ne s'y trouve pas à côté de la magnificence, et les vivants n'y marchent point sur les morts... Passez par le charnier qu'on appelle Saint-Innocent ; c'est un vaste enclos consacré à la peste : les pauvres y meurent souvent de maladies contagieuses, y sont enterrés pêle-mêle : les chiens y viennent quelquefois ronger les ossements ; une vapeur épaisse s'en exhale ; elle est pestilentielle dans les chaleurs de l'été après les pluies : et presque à côté de cette voirie est l'Opéra, le Palais-Royal, le Louvre des rois. On porte à une lieue les immondices des privés, et l'on entasse depuis douze cent ans dans la même ville les corps pourris dont ces immondices étaient produites. L'arrêt que le parlement de Paris à rendu en 1774, l'édit du roi de 1775 contre ces abus, aussi dangereux qu'infâmes, n'ont pu être exécutés ; tant l'habitude et la sottise ont de force contre la raison et contre les lois ! En vain l'exemple de tant de villes de l'Europe fait rougir Paris ; il ne se corrige point. Paris sera encore longtemps un mélange bizarre de la magnificence la plus recherchée, et de la barbarie la plus dégoutante ».

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Dago on October 23, 2005, 10:28:36 AM

Rough online translation:

Saturate with human manure, this ground exhaled pestilential miasmas.  Accidents occurred, more and more frquents, more and more low registers, in the districts situs around this mass grave (...). During heats of T, exhalations taient such, around the cimetires, that the food more ncessaires the life could be preserved only a few hours in the houses without y corrompre.  Voltaire crit in his philosophical Dictionary:  You see neither Rome, nor in the remainder of Italy none of these abominable cimetires to surround the glises;  the infection is not there ct magnificence, and the alive ones do not go there on deaths...  Pass by the mass grave which one calls Saint-Innocent;  it vast is enclosed a consacr the plague:  the poor often die there of contagious diseases, are enterrs ple-mle there:  sometimes the dogs come there to corrode the bones;  a vapor feeds is exhaled some;  it is pestilential in heats of T aprs the rains:  and almost ct of this roadway system is Opra, the Palais Royal, the Louvre of the kings.  One carries one mile the rubbish of the privs, and one has piled up for twelve hundred years in Mrs. city the rotted bodies whose this rubbish taient produced.  The arrt that the Parliament of Paris returned in 1774, says it of the king of 1775 against these abuses, as dangerous as infmes, could not tre excuts;  such an amount of the practice and the stupidity has of force against the reason and the laws!  In vain the example of so much of cities of Europe makes redden Paris;  it is not corrected.  Paris will be still a long time an odd mlange of the magnificence more research, and cruelty more dgoutante

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2005, 10:51:32 AM

Thought this was gonna be a Paris Hilton thread...:rofl

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Dago on October 23, 2005, 11:05:09 AM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thought this was gonna be a Paris Hilton thread...:rofl

That was my first thought too.  :D

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: RightF00T on October 23, 2005, 12:25:37 PM

Same here...pretty sad that she has forced her way into everyone's minds, and ruined the name of an entire city.

I'd hit it though...


/hijack off


I couldn't imagine living above such history like that, and the sight of the bones stacked up like that is chilling.

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Pooh21 on October 23, 2005, 01:14:42 PM

Id love to explore those places.

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Shamus on October 23, 2005, 01:21:11 PM

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Originally posted by Pooh21
Id love to explore those places.

which..  Paris or Paris?

shamus

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Tarmac on October 23, 2005, 01:24:26 PM

I'd add another bone to the nether regions of Paris.

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: nirvana on October 23, 2005, 01:48:48 PM

:rofl  Tarmac you filthy man.





Do these catacombs smell like death or just like old people?

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: RightF00T on October 23, 2005, 04:33:02 PM

(http://forumspile.com/Hijack-In_progress.jpg)

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: straffo on October 23, 2005, 05:06:59 PM

Wooops :( forgot this thread.

About the Innocent graveyard I've heard a story (supposed to be true)  of one neightbour of the graveyard who had infiltration of cadaver "juice" in his basement.

Title: Re: Paris Bones
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on October 23, 2005, 09:36:25 PM

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Originally posted by Eagler
saw something on tv yesterday about the tunnels under Paris and how they are full of bones as at one time the cemetaries were emptied and the bodies/bones where stashed under the city.
Is this true?
If so, why don't the frenchies kinda clean that up?
Seems sorta strange from here .. can't see anyone allowing the dead to be stashed under their city in tunnels and left there here in the states.

If you knew a little more about your own country, you would know that you have some too in USA.:lol

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Hangtime on October 23, 2005, 09:51:05 PM

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Originally posted by straffo
Wooops :( forgot this thread.

About the Innocent graveyard I've heard a story (supposed to be true)  of one neightbour of the graveyard who had infiltration of cadaver "juice" in his basement.

aaahhh.

"Bon! Wallah! 'Innocent Merlot!' ".

Title: Re: Re: Paris Bones
Post by: Eagler on October 23, 2005, 10:25:27 PM

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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
If you knew a little more about your own country, you would know that you have some too in USA.:lol

thought we got them all outa the subways last winter :)

please tell me where we have what is under Paris?

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Saintaw on October 24, 2005, 12:51:03 AM

There's a nice one under the city of pâlermo in Sicily.

Here are a few shots of an ossuary I saw in Czech republic... name of the town is unpronouncable.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/19_1130132643_064.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=25775)

McBirdCZ (left) and Orel (right) in front of their AH kill count :D
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/19_1130132795_067.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=25776)

All done with bones...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/19_1130132926_070.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=25777)

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 24, 2005, 12:55:12 AM

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Originally posted by straffo
It's not the tunnels but "catacombes" , some other city have those like Rome.

I guess picts like this one are a bit disturbing :
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Catacombs-700px.jpg)

See now thats how I wanna decorate my bedroom. )Although add an Iron maiden or two.)
Only my wife wont let me.

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Hangtime on October 24, 2005, 02:05:45 AM

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
See now thats how I wanna decorate my bedroom. )Although add an Iron maiden or two.)
Only my wife wont let me.

Thats just so...


...goth.

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 24, 2005, 09:22:59 AM

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Thats just so...


...goth.

Not quite what I had in mind.
but your on the right track:D

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: DmdJW on October 24, 2005, 09:53:57 AM

Drediock, if you're looking for tips on decor, using human bones check here:

http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/silver_p/kutna.html

DmdJW

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 24, 2005, 09:57:59 AM

ROFL Saintaw.. either you were really scared when you took those pictures or it was the first time you held a camera in your life. :D

Or do you have alzheimers? :p

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: ChickenHawk on October 24, 2005, 12:48:41 PM

The catacombs are the number one reason I would visit Paris.  Very interesting and a lot of history.

I've heard that people have actually gotten lost down there and never recovered.

Blurb from this site:  http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/plinhardt/LINHARDT_Paul/catacomb.htm

"In 1785, the city officials decided to use the quarries as burial grounds. The bones of some six million skeletons were moved there from overcrowded cemeteries considered to be health hazards. Among their ranks were the rattled bones of Rabelais, Pascal, Montesquieu, and the Mansard Brothers. The ossuary workers had a bizarre artistic temperament. They amused themselves by stacking the bones in macabre skull-and crossbones arrangements. Technically, the term "Catacombs" refers to the 11,000 square meters of ossuary known as the Empire of the Dead. However, in the folklore of the people, all 300 kilometers of tunnels from the original quarries also carry the appellation "The Catacombs of Paris".

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Saintaw on October 25, 2005, 04:59:42 AM

I need to fiddle a little less with the camera setting I guess :)

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: Krusher on October 25, 2005, 06:38:14 AM

Paris Hilton, the bony little wench :)

Title: Paris Bones
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 25, 2005, 08:06:14 AM

What does bones pictures cadaver juice and Paris have to do with eachothers anyway?

No wait..