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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on April 12, 2001, 10:23:00 AM
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The Russians have included it in their travel agency brochures. Seems like we do all the work & expense while mother Russia makes the dough ....
I hope they don't answer the door or put a "No Solicitors" sign outside the station.
Next the democrats will be shipping their high $ donors up there as a perk..
Zillionaire Tourist Gets to Visit Space Station
Thursday, April 12, 2001
WASHINGTON (UPI) – Russian officials Wednesday approved U.S. multimillionaire Dennis Tito for a flight to the International Space Station on April 28, making him the first space tourist.
The Interdepartment Commission in Star City, Russia, approved Tito for a stay of six to 10 days on the station on Wednesday. The Russian space agency Rosaviakosmos said Tito would blast off from Kazakhstan's Baikonur Cosmodrome and fly to the station along with two other cosmonauts, commander Talgat Musabayev and flight engineer Yuri Baturin.
"He's going to open up the door for a lot of other people," predicted John Moltzan, spokesman in Arlington, Va., for the space tourism company Space Adventures, which booked Tito's flight. "This shows people around the world that this is something that's really happening, that's not science fiction."
However, Tito, a former NASA engineer, faces strong opposition from NASA. NASA officials are concerned that an amateur could the jeopardize the safety of the station and its crew given the hectic work schedule planned for astronauts and cosmonauts this month as they get the research outpost operational.
"He's neither trained on the U.S. flight systems nor has he had an opportunity to train with the crew already in orbit," said NASA spokesman Dave Drachlis.
"Even career cosmonauts who fly with us to the International Space Station have trained with us approximately a year on both shuttle and U.S. International Space Station systems, regardless of the duration of their stay."
NASA plans to meet with space agency heads from the station's 15 other international partners early next week. The agency suggested it would be open to an October visit for Tito after six to eight weeks of astronaut training in Houston, which would emphasize emergency procedures and routine housekeeping tasks such as communication with ground control. Agency officials said this six-month delay would also give the station's partners time to develop a legal framework that accounts for civilians on the orbiter.
"NASA and the partners do not oppose flying nonprofessional crew members to the International Space Station on a commercial basis as long as the safety of the crew and the protection of the critical international asset are the primary concern and are in no way being compromised," Drachlis said.
Rosaviakosmos objects to NASA's claims that Tito poses a safety hazard, having extensively trained him for eight months at Gagarin Space Center in Star City, near Moscow. Russian state news agency Itar-Tass also noted that Rosaviakosmos could not meet NASA's postponement demand because Russia would have trouble refunding Tito's $20 million contract with the Russians for the flight, given the nation's ailing economy.
Tito, who founded the Santa Monica, Calif., investment firm Wilshire, would make a trip to the station during a routine "taxi" flight. The mission would fly up in a new Soyuz spacecraft and fly down in the old Soyuz docked at the outpost. Tito originally hoped to fly to Mir space station, but those plans were canceled last year when Russia announced it would scrap the orbiter, which plummeted to the Pacific in March.
Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved.
what a joke, hope he craps his pants
Eagler
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So I an supposed to say that Russia now can reject any US astronaut just because he wasn't trained in Zvezdniy and can't read Cyrillic, thus being a hazard to Russian part of a station?
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With respect,
Pavel Pavlov,
Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS
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Originally posted by Boroda:
So I an supposed to say that Russia now can reject any US astronaut just because he wasn't trained in Zvezdniy and can't read Cyrillic, thus being a hazard to Russian part of a station?
Judging from the Russian's space program accident record (the real one), the training you mentioned may be a disqualification... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
It is ironic that Russians cost several years of delays to the ISS which cost other partners lots of money because they broke contracts and diverted money/production to keep alive the Mir station. But once that peace of junk finally went down in flames, they are the first to make money of the new station.
I guess they have the right to do it if there is nothing in the contracts preventing it.
Come to think of it, The station is there and tourists may bring some cash to the project and help popularize it. As long as it brings more money (to all participants) then it costs to manage risks, where is the harm?
Just make sure to check those russkis for vodka when they enter the station... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
miko
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The ISS is a complete waste of resources and money. It has no real mission, and no purpose, and will accomplish nothing. It is a black hole from which our investments will never return. If the Russians figured out a way to make money off it, then they're smarter than the USA.
J_A_B
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Miko, Russia made all the key life-support systems for ISS, the thing that Americans can't make at all. Russian cosmonauts said that Space Shuttle "stinks as a railroad toilet".
Remember how Russian cosmonaut "repaired" space shuttle on the orbit?
BTW, Soviet and American training concepts are completely different: cosmonauts are to make the main decisions themself, while astronauts act only according to ground control orders.
As for accident record - it's slightly bigger then US one because Soviet cosmonauts spent about 100 times more in space then US astronauts. If you'll bother counting - 10 Americans died in their spaceships, and 4 Soviets... We still have the cheapest and most reliable launch vehicle, the good old R-7, almost 45 years old and mass-produced since 1957.
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With respect,
Pavel Pavlov,
Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS
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damn straight JAB. I think 80 percent of folks who post their views here should grab their dictionary (its that big heavy book under the stack of TV guides) and look up the word: Ethnocentrism.
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how do we know clams are really happy?
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"The ISS is a complete waste of resources and money. It has no real mission, and no purpose, and will accomplish nothing. It is a black hole from which our investments will never return"
Yes..I guess we should never have bothered building ships...and Colombus should have stayed home.
Daff
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Actually I don't have a real big problem with the fact that someone of the public will go onto the station. Of course he would require training (which he apparently has); of course he will hopefully not break anything (we'll see).
The only problem that I have is that the US and Russia could not come to an agreement on how this could be handled, so Russia decided to do it anyways. Neither country should have the right to approve whoever they want to go on board, and neither country should have the right to disallow someone to go on board. It's called "work it out".
Cooporation just does not work sometimes.
Fury
p.s. If I had money to burn, you can darn well bet I'd try to get up there too. I'd work with my country though, instead of bypassing them like this guy did.
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The first manned orbits were good.
The moon landing was good.
The space probes were good.
The first space stations were good.
The Hubble telescope is good.
But what is this new space station suppoosed to do? It will do NOTHNG that hasn't been done before. The main reason they are building it, is just so they can have a space station.
I am all for manned trips to Mars, or building a Shuttle replacement, or even sending probes to the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. However, the ISS represents a step backwards in space exploration--rather than pushing the envelope farther out, they're content to stay at Earth.
It's a waste. If they hadn't of wasted their money on it, they might have some REAL exploration.
J_A_B
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The funny thing about this thread is that the capitalists [tm] complain about the capitalistic lessons the ex-communists [tm] have learned.
SCNR
Az
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For long term survival, humans must look to the stars. There is no other way.
For some, it's a sign of human ingenuity and craftmanship, of the human drive to explore.
For others it's a big hole in the sky that shouldn't exist and the tax dollars would be better placed in the hands of citizens
For yet others, those tax dollars could've gone to help the less fortunate.
I'm for 1 or 3 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Originally posted by azrael:
The funny thing about this thread is that the capitalists [tm] complain about the capitalistic lessons the ex-communists [tm] have learned.
SCNR
Az
The capitalist angle would be to put a 10 passenger pod in the shuttle and move 200 million worth of people a month up there.Of course there would be no room for russian customers at that point so I guess they would be out of luck.
Who paid what % of the cost of the station. Divide the revenues in that ratio..
How many potential applicants did the soviets reject on medical or other reasons befor they let this guy pay? If Rosanne Arnold applies does she go? Make new hatches or something.
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Funny how the point quickly got lost as the flames began.
To our Russian friends, its nice you have more time in space than we do. But your system of goverment in the past didnt exactly allow for the general public to say "Whoa, you are spending too much money on the space program". If you did, you got to meet the AK-47 and a nice retirement villa in Siberia, correct?
Here in the States, NASA is making due with what they have. Everyone in the space program has ideas where THEY would like to see the money go. Some want a probe to Pluto on a rare chance to see it up close as its closest to the Sun and has an atmoshpere. Others want to see us eventually land men on Mars. Others, a space station in orbit, or the moon.
Or, in the general public, others want tall that money NASA uses to go into other ventures...cures for cancer, Aids, leukemia and much more. Mother Russia didnt have a Congress, Senate and public to answer to when it sent folks into orbit.
With that said, the ISS has been largely funded by the USA. We've tried to keep it international to spread the cost, and keep it less of a hit to the US taxpayers. Russia largely went broke and added 2 years to the program, late building the main module. Many here wanted it back here to be finished and put into orbit in time, but we bit our tongues in the spirit of an International Space Station and ate 2 billion in cost overruns and gave Russia the funding to finish it (so you see, Russia built it, we paid for it...so their contribution is??).
Now the station is up and becoming operational. The real slap in the face is the Russians selling it off as an expensive hotel. The crew on the station arent sitting up there gawking at the moon, but busy doing work and research. But, the Russians do not seem to care, its abusing the spirit of the ISS to make quick money. And what's more embarssing to me is its an American being sent up.
That's my rant, I have on my asbestos underwear, so have at. Meanwhile, Ill be at Space.Com (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Paul J. Busiere
Aces High Arena handle: BD5Pilot
http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
[This message has been edited by LePaul (edited 04-12-2001).]
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Originally posted by Boroda:
If you'll bother counting - 10 Americans died in their spaceships, and 4 Soviets...
Vostok 1, Vostok 2, Vostok 17, Vostok 18, Vostok 33 ... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Hehe and don't forget the N-1! There's a word that sends the older Russian rocket engineers running for cover. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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eth·no·cen·trism (thn-sntrzm)
n.
1. Belief in the superiority of one's own ethnic group.
2. Overriding concern with race.
Oh sure, you know some big words there buddy, too bad you have no diddlying clue how and when to use them, except to try to make yourself seem smarter.
What does this has anything to do with the space station?
Under the same logic, money spent for the building of all the seven wonders were badly spent.
The space station may not be a great economic achievemnt for the US, but it is a great achievment for mankind. For the first time we are gonna have a permanent outpost in space built in cooperation by many nations, from wich we can conduct several types of experiments, including building a telescope even more powerful than Hobble, and experiments wich will lead to a manned space-flight to mars.
But of course, those things do not concern you. Money does.
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In addition to what LePaul said, US Space program did not suck out all the best brains from the US economy. When offered a six-digit salary by a company producing something usefull, many scientists did not choose to work for NASA.
What use of a space program to people who did not live to enjoy it's fruits?
Boroda,
Here is a very curious thing. I've always read (in russian literature) that russian soldiers and pilots used their initiative and germans and americans were blindly following the book.
When I got access to the statements of the opposite side, guess what - completely opposite. Russians are the dumb guys and germans/americans/israelis are thinking and using the initiative.
Do not belive that roadkill about initiative unless it comes from an enemy praise. Russians are no dumber or smarter then americans. With the social system and customs beng the only difference, I would be surprised if it was russians who had more initiative. Ingenuity maybe - we had to do with little while americans could go out and buy things. Initiative - no.
I saw an iterview with the guy who collided the spaceship into Mir. That was a prime example of a cosmonauts blindly following regulation, afraid of his bosses more then of death and not dearing to abort the run and waste a few hours/liters of fuel. All that while using crappy visual system that was showing crap and cuttng out intermittently. not much initiative there.
Of course US Astronauts would listen to the advice of experts. Why not? If there is time, why not listen to the advice of people who 've built the equipment and have a copy down to experiment with. It's not like an american out of communications would just lay down and die up there...
miko
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How could anyone be suprised by this development? I stick with my initial observation from last December:
The thing looks incredible. I think its just a beta-unit for a space-based Hyatt Regency they are going to launch in 2004.
AKDejaVu
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What use is the ISS?
In order to go to other places, besides Earth and the Moon, we will need to build our ships in orbit. They will be too heavy to launch from Earth. In order to build them in orbit we need to gain experience in orbital construction (its not exactly an environment that we are used too) and we will need a base from which to operate. The ISS will probably not work as a shipyard, but it does get us valuable experience in zero G construction. In addition it will allow the practical testing of systems that have been developed as solutions to problems found on Mir, or solutions that should be better than those used on Mir.
We have to learn to walk before we can run and there are steps between going to the Moon and going to Mars.
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Shall be my brother
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Sisu
-Karnak
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The ISS is an international version of MIR and SKYLAB. Why is it up there? Well, for once it is a place to prove, develop and learn about long term stays in space, they have whole fricken sections of the station devoted to experiments, it will also provide a lot of data and lessons for any future manned space station, hopefully a permanently manned one.
WTF you people want? DS9?
Im truly amazed how many countries are participating, that itself is a great step foward.
As for having tourists up there... why not? Only a millionaire would be able to go up there at these stages, and even if some lame bellybutton hollywood actor with too much money on his hands goes up there, he may end up giving donations to NASA or aid the space program... being in space is a deep experience. Tourists being a danger? You'd think someone with the money to pay his way up there would have the brains to keep his hand to himself.
Anyway, ISS is up there, its good, lets hope it helps us make a base on the moon in the future, its about fricken time we got up there!!!
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There are some alloys/compounds that you can only obtain in weightless conditions. Much easier to mix stuff when it does not separate right away due to gravity.
Have yet to see practical applications though...
miko
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The race is on again (http://www.moonrace2001.org)
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Originally posted by Boroda:
Miko, Russia made all the key life-support systems for ISS, the thing that Americans can't make at all. Russian cosmonauts said that Space Shuttle "stinks as a railroad toilet".
Hehehe yeah the shuttle realy stinks compaired to your Russian 20 year old reusable reentry ship.
Boroda, shouldn't you be in line for bread? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Udie
silly commies
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lol udie
that was quite cynical
i loved it
xoxo,
Animal
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Hehehe yeah the shuttle realy stinks compaired to your Russian 20 year old reusable reentry ship.
Your 2 years old dated shuttle stinks more. Our ship is brand new and shiny every launch ! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Do they use "reusable" napkins in Texas too ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
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How long was Mir up in space? And what was the name of the NASA station that ended up in the drink prematurely from a degraded orbit? I can't even remember when it happened , like the 70's or 80's. Oh, and Mir was already up when that defunct NASA station was first deployed in space.
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Skylab went up in 1973, and the program was completed in 1974. The station was completely shut down, and the orbit decayed naturally, resulting in re-entry in 1979.
Mir didn't go up until 1986.
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Oh, you're right, funked. However, Skylab did re-enter prematurely by 1-2 years, according to NASA reports.
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Hmmm, why didn't I even have to look who would post the first reply to this thread?
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I aplaude to Udie! He gets the first prize!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I think that such a bright guy must not suffer from unemloyment, I hope he can find a job at least as a dishwasher.
And everyone knows that Americans hang Negros and keep Indians in reservations.
Should I continue telling you cold war myths?
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With respect,
Pavel Pavlov,
Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS
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Originally posted by Boroda:
Should I continue telling you cold war myths?
Nope let's just trade your Vodoka for our Jack Daniels (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
always the peacemaker
Eagler
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Eagler, that's a nice offer! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
You know, I never refuse from a good alcohol! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Jack Daniels is too expencive here, maybe 5-8 times more then good vodka, and if you want a mixed drink - it's sometimes better then vodka.
But anyway, I'll prefer an old Armenian or Georgian brandy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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With respect,
Pavel Pavlov,
Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS
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Originally posted by Boroda:
I aplaude to Udie! He gets the first prize!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I think that such a bright guy must not suffer from unemloyment, I hope he can find a job at least as a dishwasher.
And everyone knows that Americans hang Negros and keep Indians in reservations.
Should I continue telling you cold war myths?
The smiley faces mean we're just joking around right? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) As for emloyment (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I'll keep in the engineering field i think. It buys alot more bread than dishwashing, and the bread doesn't get all soggy.
Udie
BTW, do you guys ever get Jose Quervo Gold over there in Russia? OHHHH man it's the stuff! Drinking a bottle tomarrow night (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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you pathetic soapwater drinkers... AGUARDIENTE is THE stuff. Vodka cant even compare (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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General Jack D. Ripper: Have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?
Group Captain Lionel Mandrake: Well, no I... I can't say I have, Jack.
Ripper: Vodka. That's what they drink, isn't it? Never water?
Mandrake: Well I... I believe that's what they drink, Jack. Yes.
Ripper: On no account will a commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.
Mandrake: Oh, ah, yes. I don't quite.. see what you're getting at, Jack.
Ripper: Water. That's what I'm getting at. Water. Mandrake, water is the source of all life. Seven tenths of this earth's surface is water. Why, you realize that.. seventy percent of you is water.
Mandrake: Uhhh God...
Ripper: And as human beings, you and I need fresh, pure water to replenish our precious bodily fluids.
Mandrake: Yes. (Chuckles nervously.)
Ripper: You beginning to understand?
Mandrake: Yes. (Chuckles, begins laughing/crying quietly.)
Ripper: Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure grain alcohol?
Mandrake: Well it did occur to me, Jack, yes.
Ripper: Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation? Fluoridation of water?
Mandrake: Ah, yes, I have heard of that, Jack. Yes.
Ripper: Well do you know what it is?
Mandrake: No. No, I don't know what it is. No.
Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
(Window in the office is shot through by automatic weapons fire.)
Ripper: (Walks to window and shouts.) Two can play at this game soldier!
(More rounds ricochet through the office, cutting down the overhead desk lamp.)
Ripper: That's nice shooting, soldier!
(Ripper produces a machine gun from a golf bag in his closet. He turns off the lights, then sweeps his desk clear with the gun barrel, placing the gun squarely on the desk.)
Ripper: Mandrake! Come here!
Mandrake: You calling me, Jack?
Ripper: Just come over here and help me with this belt.
Mandrake: (Prone on couch.) I ah, I haven't had very much experience, you know, with those... sort of machines, Jack. I only ever pressed a button in my old Spitfire.
Ripper: Mandrake, in the name of Her Majesty and the Continental Congress come here and feed me this belt, boy!
Mandrake: Jack, I'd love to come. But, what's happened, you see, is the string in my leg's gone.
Ripper: The what?
Mandrake: The string. I never told you, but, you see, I've got a gammy leg. Oh dear. Gone. Shot off.
Ripper: (Karate-chops the receiver, cycling the action.) Mandrake, come over here. The Red Coats are coming. Come on!
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Although NASA does not publicly confirm or deny.....it looks like all is well with the tourist.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/04/20/alpha.tourist.02/index.html?s=8 (http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/04/20/alpha.tourist.02/index.html?s=8)
Fury
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So whats wrong now ? China refused to sell good computers to US (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) or space station runs Windows ?
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Lol Funked
that has to be one of my all time favorite movies lol
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yeah many earthbound scientists dont like it because they say it draws funding away from their work.
physicists especially - due to the end of the cold war the simpletons in washington aren't interested in the atom anymore because they dont need their nukes so accelerator plans are dropping like flies.
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Tito is highly certified for the mission. He has prior experience with NASA, and he must have gained a good sense of respect from the soviet cosmonauts who will be going with him, or they sure has heck wouldn't have protested by walking out at the Johnson Space center when NASA was going to deny Tito access weeks earlier.
He is not the first tourist to go into space.
Before him, Toyohiro Akyama (Soyuz TM-11) and Helen Sharman (Soyuz TM-12), visited Mir. They were not professional astronauts, nor space-related workers. Sharman was a chemical worker at a candy plant, and Akyama was a jornalist at TBS TV Tokio station.
Sharman flew more or less like a tourist, since she won a contest in wich the prize was the voyage to Mir. The japanese flew under a special contract to make a TV report and a book.
One NASA employee said:
"I work for NASA and I firmly believe that Mr. Tito has had sufficient training and prior knowledge to make this flight to not detriment to the station. I believe that depending on how the crew and agencies approach his flight, it will cause no significant work stoppage aboard the station either. Mr. Tito is not just another tourist but a knowledgable person with an enineering background that will prevent no hazards to the station."
Eagler, the United States has not "done all the work". It is called the International Space Station for a reason. In fact, as I write this now there is a Canadian, Italian, Russian and American on board the ISS. They are installing the CANADARM2, without which the ISS could not be built. It truely is an international effort and any one of the partcipating countries has every right to send whomever they wish into space.
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Originally posted by Loyalist:
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Eagler, the United States has not "done all the work". It is called the International Space Station for a reason. In fact, as I write this now there is a Canadian, Italian, Russian and American on board the ISS. They are installing the CANADARM2, without which the ISS could not be built. It truely is an international effort and any one of the partcipating countries has every right to send whomever they wish into space.
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Stand corrected, the United States has done 90% of the work and has funded 95% of it. The Russians nor any other country does not have the right to turn it into a bed and breakfast any purpose let alone to line their own pockets with $$$.
Heard this morning the shuttle crew will have to leave early, will not be able to stay and fix the computer problems with the arm as the Russians refused to delay their launch of their sugar daddy.
International my arse... just the Reds sticking it up our butt again and the US smiling while saying "thank you sir, may I have another "
Eagler
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Eagler, you are wrong.
Russia invested consierable ammount of money into ISS, especially if you'll look at the economical situation here. And again: Americans are unable to make long time life-support systems. I mean UNABLE, can't, fail when they try, it's impossible for them.
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With respect,
Pavel Pavlov,
Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS
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Also, without Canadian robotics the entire station would not be able to be built. The Canadarm on the shuttle is responsible for building anything you see up there and the Canadarm2 will be responsible for building anything in the future. The Italians are responsible for the Raphilio Module which will take supplies to and from the ISS. The Russians built one half of the station and the Americans built the other half.
Have you seen pictures of mission control lately? The guys at CAPCOOM are wearing Canadian Hockey jerserys with three Canadian flags to every one American flag in the room.
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16 states (Brazil builds as a junior partner of the USA) and
100,000 humans in all world are involved in the development
of the international space station.
According to the ISS plan it will have 6 research labs (2 USA,
2 Russia, 1 Europe, 1 Japan), 2 housing units (1 Russia, 1 USA),
3 nodes (liaison vehicles), 4 supply modules (current supply, fuel),
2 transport systems or rescue systems (shuttle, Soyuz), 4 utility
systems (space shuttle, progress, ATV, HTV), 3 return systems
(space shuttle, Soyuz, CRV), 3 bionic arms (1 Canada, 1 Europe,
1 Japan) and 1 free flier " Inspector " (Europe).
The European proportion to ISS is situated with approx. 6%.
41% of it holds Germany ! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
USA: 70-90 billion $
-base development
-shuttle-flights
-Sunsail
-2 research modules
-living module
-centrifuge
-connecting node
Russia: 10-11 billion $
-solar plant
-energy platform
-2 research modules
-living module
-functional cargo block
Europe: 6.2 billion $
-columbus laboratory
-bionic arm system
Japan: 3.2-3.7 billion $
-laboratory module
-bionic arm system
Canada: 0.6 billion $
-bionic arm system
greets
Gh0stFT
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Why does this remind me of Spies like us? Funny as hell movie IMO.
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[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 04-29-2001).]
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You forgot Italy.
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Originally posted by Loyalist:
You forgot Italy.
no,
its with the European part, like all
other European nations, capisce?
Gh0stFT
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<S> All. Maybe something like this will bring us all together as the brothers we really are.
I'm just jealous I don't have $20 million to buy a ticket (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Eagler
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Italy supplied the Raphalio Module that brings supplies to and from the station.