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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on October 28, 2005, 04:43:27 PM
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My office sits about a mile off the end of the runway of our local Air Reserve Base. They are just now gearing up for a new shipment of C-17's to replace the C-141's that used to fly out of here every hour or so.
Holy crap! They are louder, bigger and I swear those guys want to fly them like fighters sometimes. I had one today come from the west, do a hard 90 right over my head and head south to the runway... wow.
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LOL.. yah.. the C-17 is a kick-ass transport. Watching 'em do 'combat approaches' and 'evasive - threat avoidance' takeoffs must be quite a show. ;)
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remember its called barney....fred's little buddy.
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They are a cool aircraft. See our share of them here in the springs. Yes the evasive takeoff is cool, but watching a C5 do a combat landing is cooler!
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They are not bigger than a C-141. I walk past C17s every morning duging FOD walk
Cool Cargo planes though.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
They are not bigger than a C-141. I walk past C17s every morning duging FOD walk
Cool Cargo planes though.
Fod walkdowns suck. :)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Fod walkdowns suck. :)
every morning.....no matter the temp or 50MPH winds that we get here. What's funny is we walk around the C130s because of the props but under the 17s even with APUs running.
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I think a C-17 Gunship would be pretty cool. Kinda like the C-5 Flying Circus gunships from the "wingman" novels.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I walk past C17s every morning duging FOD walk
That’s why God made airman – another chapter from a little red book
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Originally posted by Russian
That’s why God made airman – another chapter from a little red book
Your little red book doesn't have anything on military regs. I think the language and contradictions are purposly written to confuse said little red book holders.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Your little red book doesn't have anything on military regs. I think the language and contradictions are purposly written to confuse said little red book holders.
I have a contradiction with that. Since you are doing FOD, you misinterpret originals reader’s interpretation. Airmen are a free labor grunts designed particularly for FOD walks. :D
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Originally posted by Russian
I have a contradiction with that. Since you are doing FOD, you misinterpret originals reader’s interpretation. Airmen are a free labor grunts designed particularly for FOD walks. :D
OK now calculate the fact that I am a Staff Sergeant into your red book equation. :cool:
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
OK now calculate the fact that I am a Staff Sergeant into your red book equation. :cool:
That’s exactly my point, you do not belong there. ;-)
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Originally posted by Russian
That’s exactly my point, you do not belong there. ;-)
yes and this is were your "red book" fails you. Airman left without supervisors reign caos. Supervison is a must......Enter me!
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
OK now calculate the fact that I am a Staff Sergeant into your red book equation. :cool:
the copy of the lil red book we gave russian covers that in the 'too many chiefs = not enuff injuns' chapter.
he hasn't got the corrected chairforce version that sez "1 blue E6 = 1 green E2".
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Originally posted by Hangtime
the copy of the lil red book we gave russian covers that in the 'too many chiefs = not enuff injuns' chapter.
he hasn't got the corrected chairforce version that sez "1 blue E6 = 1 green E2".
LOL :lol
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Originally posted by Hangtime
the copy of the lil red book we gave russian covers that in the 'too many chiefs = not enuff injuns' chapter.
he hasn't got the corrected chairforce version that sez "1 blue E6 = 1 green E2".
even that is outdated....the USAF is STILL over manned after 2 years of "force shaping" the next move is to kick out 4000 company grade officers.
Russian,
I've allways wanted to ask. Is this a popular phrase? I learned it from an immigrant russian striper. (keep in mind it's phonetically translated the best I can muster)
Prevet mya caruchka
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yes and this is were your "red book" fails you. Airman left without supervisors reign caos. Supervison is a must......Enter me!
So you are saying that those airmen can fix a 5 mil engine on C-5 without supervision, but cannot be trusted to pick up little rocks? Little book was written with too much common sense, we gave too much undue credit. Blast it! :rofl
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Russian,
I've allways wanted to ask. Is this a popular phrase? I learned it from an immigrant russian striper. (keep in mind it's phonetically translated the best I can muster)
Prevet mya caruchka
Unless I’m misunderstanding it, translating it with meaning = ‘Hello my little sufferer’
Ca = KA sound?
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Originally posted by Russian
Unless I’m misunderstanding it, translating it with meaning = ‘Hello my little sufferer’
Ca = KA sound?
yes it could be Karuchka.....she said it was chicken....lol that just sounds bad
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yes it could be Karuchka.....she said it was chicken....lol that just sounds bad
In that case, its Kurachka. (Chka ending usually means - little, small, adorable, playable. not negative connotation)
I, myself, never heard of that saying….I was called before ‘little sufferer’ though :D
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Originally posted by Russian
In that case, its Kurachka. (Chka ending usually means - little, small, adorable, playable. not negative connotation)
I, myself, never heard of that saying….I was called before ‘little sufferer’ though :D
ahh that kinda makes sense. About your engine question....the answer is a firm no. Airman don't do any work without an inspector signing off on it. Inspectors are required (in most cases but not all) to be NCOs at minimum.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
ahh that kinda makes sense. About your engine question....the answer is a firm no. Airman don't do any work without an inspector signing off on it. Inspectors are required (in most cases but not all) to be NCOs at minimum.
I know, that’s how system is designed to work, but I have many friends in maintenance squadrons that tell me quite interesting stories about ‘wonderful’ supervision. It seems Travis, especially on blue side has lack of manning power so most of the time A1C and SrA work on engines or/ aircraft while supervision sit behind desk and do whatever they are best in – drinking coffee.
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Originally posted by Russian
I know, that’s how system is designed to work, but I have many friends in maintenance squadrons that tell me quite interesting stories about ‘wonderful’ supervision. It seems Travis, especially on blue side has lack of manning power so most of the time A1C and SrA work on engines or/ aircraft while supervision sit behind desk and do whatever they are best in – drinking coffee.
yup that happens too. Sometimes Senior Airman become inspectors due to shortages.
Myself, you cant put a dollar sign on the value of a working Ejection seat (what I do) There's a few airman I watch VERY closley and a few that I only give a cursory review but either way everything in my line of work get's inspected and it get's done by the book.
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Guns, how in hell a mud marine ever found his way into a blue suit and onto a flight line would no doubt be an entertaining story.. especially since yer rostered for Ejection Seat prep and maintenance...
..it's GOTTA do the Chairforce good.
And there's always the outstanding fact that should a Air Force Flyboy ever need a well-timed supremo kick in the bellybutton to get him even higher, it was a mud marine that made it happen.
LOL..
still cracks me up.
'Aim High, my assss.... EJECT EJECT EJECT'
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I think a C-17 Gunship would be pretty cool. Kinda like the C-5 Flying Circus gunships from the "wingman" novels.
Heheheh those would be a real sight to see =)
Haven't read those books in a looooong time.
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Having alot of fun with Google earth..here's a few C-17's at the USAF base in Charleston SC..
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/728_1130595346_c17.jpg)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Guns, how in hell a mud marine ever found his way into a blue suit and onto a flight line would no doubt be an entertaining story.. especially since yer rostered for Ejection Seat prep and maintenance...
..it's GOTTA do the Chairforce good.
And there's always the outstanding fact that should a Air Force Flyboy ever need a well-timed supremo kick in the bellybutton to get him even higher, it was a mud marine that made it happen.
LOL..
still cracks me up.
'Aim High, my assss.... EJECT EJECT EJECT'
basicaly it went down like this.
Gunslinger was a Marine and got honorably discharged in 2001. Now that I was free from the corps I went against better advice and started a family. Then this small event called 9/11 happened.
I got recalled to active duty to support "enduring freedom" for nine months. Then was discharged. Turns out my job was dissolved while I was on my little active duty vacation. So this is now 2002 and we all remember the economy back then, I had 4 mouths to feed and no job whatsoever. (side note: I wasn't without my pride but I was willing to take just about anything to include Arbys and Mc D's. I honestly to this day feel I was never hired at blockbuster because I failed the psyc eval they make you take)
SO here I am at a recruiting office cause HEY a family needs to be fed. THe Marines wanted to reduce me in grade to E-3 with E-4 in 6 months (after being an E-5 for a year) AND they wanted to make me a Field Radio Operator. I politily told the SSgt to go screw himself and walked accross the hallway. I figured how hard could the USAF be. What's funny is we had 3 Marines 1 Navy and 1 Army prior service just in my shop alone. And that boys and girls is the story of how the Gunslinger found himself in the Air Force. Eitherway I got 10 years down with 10 more to go.
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I think it's great! And no doubt dealing with bluesuit BS must be kinda funny when looked at thru the window of your prior experience.
How in hell do you get thru the day without just sitting there and laughing?
Sure bet that they think yer freakin nuts.
;)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I think it's great! And no doubt dealing with bluesuit BS must be kinda funny when looked at thru the window of your prior experience.
How in hell do you get thru the day without just sitting there and laughing?
Sure bet that they think yer freakin nuts.
;)
I get "counsled" weekly for my aleged "abrasiveness" when "speaking" to the troops. ;)
people allways ask me about the difference and I have to say I miss the spirit of the corps, but it's the same amount of BS just in different form. Were the Marines have formations and fieldays the USAF has MS powerpoint and paperwork.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I get "counsled" weekly for my aleged "abrasiveness" when "speaking" to the troops. ;)
people allways ask me about the difference and I have to say I miss the spirit of the corps, but it's the same amount of BS just in different form. Were the Marines have formations and fieldays the USAF has MS powerpoint and paperwork.
Similar experience. We had a little pow-wow up in Pacifica with a new group we partnered with - and bought 2 bottles of $30 / shot tequilla, I think it was PAtron Platnium. Anyway, of course it goes down the hatch, and everyone is like "Wolf, its sipping tequilla!" The 3 other Marines in the room from Secure Cognition do the same as me and we're looking at each other like "WTF is sipping tequilla."
So apart from abrasiveness and my tendancy to drool at lunch all over myself - your in good company. I'm just the youngest of the bunch and get nonstop **** as a result.
Wolf
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Having alot of fun with Google earth..here's a few C-17's at the USAF base in Charleston SC..
(http://_c17.jpg)
They look good from above, but highly placed White House sources have told me that when viewed from the ground they are actually:
(http://www.balloonco.com/2go/2001images/I-images/Custom%20Shapes/Airplane-3.jpg)
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(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/worthless.gif)
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I have a pretty cool bmp image of the C-17, noplace to host it though.
Here's one off the web..
(http://www.armtecdefense.com/countermeasures/c17.jpg)