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Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: RAIDER14 on October 29, 2005, 12:01:36 AM

were any B-24's or B-29's ever used for passengers by the military or airlines

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Hangtime on October 29, 2005, 12:09:42 AM

yup. C-87 (B-24) and Stratocruiser (B-29 with airliner fuselage).

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Gunslinger on October 29, 2005, 12:13:06 AM

17s were used as well coorect.....or IIRC the B-17 is based off of an airline passenger design

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Charon on October 31, 2005, 08:41:42 AM

If I remember correctly there were regulations put in place in the US market to prevent ex bombers from being converted to passenger liners in order to protect the aviation industry. The "airliner" models based on the airframes were new production. The Brits also fielded the transport and airline versions of the Lancaster (York) and Sunderland post war.

Charon

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: midnight Target on October 31, 2005, 09:05:19 AM

Not sure if this counts, but the B-17 at our local air museum was used as the personal transport for some Lt. General during the war.



(http://www.marchfield.org/b17.jpg)

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: gofaster on October 31, 2005, 01:47:24 PM

"Diamond Lil" was a B-24 used as an executive transport after the war.

The history of Diamond Lil (http://www.cafb29b24.org/diamondlil.shtml)

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Furball on October 31, 2005, 02:20:38 PM

Winston Churchill used a modified (all armament was removed, and the fuselage was modified to accommodate plush seats, berths, an electric flight kitchen and fitted with a single-fin and rudder. It carried the name "Commando") as his personal transport.

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Ripsnort on October 31, 2005, 03:02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Furball
Winston Churchill used a modified (all armament was removed, and the fuselage was modified to accommodate plush seats, berths, an electric flight kitchen and fitted with a single-fin and rudder. It carried the name "Commando") as his personal transport.

What kind of plane?

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Furball on October 31, 2005, 03:06:12 PM

Sorry, Liberator Mk II, i edited out "libby" by mistake.

Was an RAF mod of a B.24, i dont think it really has a in service U.S. B-24  counterpart.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b24_5.html

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: john9001 on October 31, 2005, 03:09:15 PM

FDR used a modifyed b-24, it had a elevator to lift his wheel chair.

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Ripsnort on October 31, 2005, 03:52:20 PM

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Originally posted by Furball
Sorry, Liberator Mk II, i edited out "libby" by mistake.

Was an RAF mod of a B.24, i dont think it really has a in service U.S. B-24  counterpart.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b24_5.html

How come he didn't use a Lanc?

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Debonair on October 31, 2005, 04:08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
How come he didn't use a Lanc?

Lancaster didn't vote tory?
There were a whole ton of C-87 photos in the Library of Congress thread posted in Aircraft & Vehicles a couple weeks ago

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: Furball on October 31, 2005, 04:29:01 PM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
How come he didn't use a Lanc?

no idea?

maybe because they were using the Lancs as frontline bombers, whereas a lot of the libbys in RAF service were used as transports/coastal command/secondary duties.

maybe due to the fuselage shape of the lanc?

IIRC when the Avro York (Lanc wings, new fueselage) was introduced, Churchill used one of those.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Avro_York.jpg)

Title: B24's or B-29's airliner
Post by: G0ALY on October 31, 2005, 05:04:48 PM

At the close of the war Russia was able to obtain 3 US B29s that landed in their territory.

They made copies of the B29 in a bomber version and named it the TU-4.

They also made a transport version called theTU-70.

(http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/goalyeb/images/tu70.jpg)