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Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 01:00:27 AM
How about instead of complaining and pounding our fists for change be it Troops, feild porkers, furballers Gvers, landgrabbers,suicide dweebs or whatever And expecting everyone to play the game the way we want it to be played
If when we log on and dont like what is going on wejust pick up our marbles as individuals and go home.

What a unique idea. You dont like whats going on in the game that night and simply log off and go do any of a number of things that might be more productive or just as entertaining.
Watch a movie,read a book, spend time with the family. Go out for a bite to eat. Finally fix that item around the house the wife has been after you to fix for the last two years.
whatever.

Just dont bother whining about the game anymore.

Sitting here it has occured to me that I've been here what,,about 3-4 years now and the exact same arguements are being made now that I saw being made the very first day I came here.
And yanno what?
NOTHING has changed.

NOTHING is going to change.
The game is as it is. Might as well just learn to live with it and get over it or find something else to do  because its NOT gonna change.

Youcan snivel and whine and make up dopey names for the things you dont like till the cow really does jump over the moon and its not going to make a bit of difference.
Like it or not It is as it is  and as it will be
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: JTs on October 29, 2005, 01:11:41 AM
omg i must need that lobotomy real bad i agree with the guy from joisey.

you any where near elizabeth exit 16 off the pike?  i'm bring 22 tons of cantalopes to shop rite for del tuesday morning.  be there till around 11:00 your time.  give me a pm
JT
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 01:19:53 AM
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Originally posted by JTs
omg i must need that lobotomy real bad i agree with the guy from joisey.

you any where near elizabeth exit 16 off the pike?  i'm bring 22 tons of cantalopes to shop rite for del tuesday morning.  be there till around 11:00 your time.  give me a pm
JT


Nope, Im near Exit 8-a although at 11 on tues(I am assuming in the morning) I will be nearer exit 9.

Elizabeth huh?

Be careful. I hear strange goings on happen in Elizebeth.

And if someone calling you "Yo" tries to bum a cigarette off you get in the cab and lock the doors LOL
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 29, 2005, 01:27:33 AM
No drediock.  You forget, the moment you pay for a game, not only do you have a say in how you play it, but you have a say in how others play it.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: RTR on October 29, 2005, 01:27:51 AM
You know what?

I remember you from AW.

You were one of the many that I always feared. You, eh, SOD and Trooper used to put the fear of god in me. But I always came back .

You are one of the people who taught me how to survive in the flight sim world.

You probably don't remember me in my AW days. My cpid was Rtrhd, then changed to RTR in the dying days of AW. But, I remember you.

I want to thank you for making me learn what I learned then. It served me well in this online pixel to pixel addiction we all have.

Best advice I can give you is, don't expect AW. This sim is what it is. Find a group you can trust and fly with, and have a ball.

It's all what we make of it.

/IT\

Cheers,
RTR
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 01:34:57 AM
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Originally posted by RTR
You know what?

I remember you from AW.

You were one of the many that I always feared. You, eh, SOD and Trooper used to put the fear of god in me. But I always came back .

You are one of the people who taught me how to survive in the flight sim world.

You probably don't remember me in my AW days. My cpid was Rtrhd, then changed to RTR in the dying days of AW. But, I remember you.

I want to thank you for making me learn what I learned then. It served me well in this online pixel to pixel addiction we all have.

Best advice I can give you is, don't expect AW. This sim is what it is. Find a group you can trust and fly with, and have a ball.

It's all what we make of it.

/IT\

Cheers,
RTR



Well we are Gods in our own right so it would stand to reason...;)

I do seem to remember that handle. At least it seems familiour.

Your very welcome

And Ive been here for a while now few years now
I fly under the Name Drediock for the Nits. mainly because they wouldnt let me have /IT\ when I came here.
Dont expect AW. Never did
Different animal with some similarities
I manage to hold my own here. I do ok anyway I think.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: RTR on October 29, 2005, 01:41:09 AM
hehe, don't get m ewrong.

I'll get my twusty wepeating wifle and bwast you!

Look fwd to hunting you.

Paybacks a *****!

Just kidding sir, but would love to cross swords with you again, (EG)

Cheers,
RTR
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: RTR on October 29, 2005, 01:43:23 AM
dang, who knew the monitor would pick up *****, or ****er or *******. Damn. This tings good!
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: RTR on October 29, 2005, 01:45:09 AM
Okay, apparently the rum is working just fine!@\\
RTR
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 09:08:14 AM
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Originally posted by RTR
hehe, don't get m ewrong.

I'll get my twusty wepeating wifle and bwast you!

Look fwd to hunting you.

Paybacks a *****!

Just kidding sir, but would love to cross swords with you again, (EG)

Cheers,
RTR


Just look for the yellownose 109F

/IT\ would find killing you again. Most pleasureable.;)
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: lazs2 on October 29, 2005, 09:12:21 AM
dred..... or... if you like the game exactly how it is how bout if you defend every feature that others don't like and spend time telling em to leave if they don't like the game the way you like it.

If you don't like the complaints or....if you really don't care about em.... how bout showing how little you care by simply not participating in the threads?

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: FiLtH on October 29, 2005, 10:03:47 AM
Rumsfeld plays AH?
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 10:04:42 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
dred..... or... if you like the game exactly how it is how bout if you defend every feature that others don't like and spend time telling em to leave if they don't like the game the way you like it.

If you don't like the complaints or....if you really don't care about em.... how bout showing how little you care by simply not participating in the threads?

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's


Thats not the point.

We've been seeing the same exact arguements of Furballer Vrs Toolshedder for the entire time I've been here. Which is at least 3 years.
And nothing has changed.
Im guessing its a pretty good bet we will be seeing the same exact arguements made 3 years from now too.
and Nothing is gonna change.

Point is, you can not like what you want. Its not going to make a difference.
Both sides have been  been beating our heads against a stone wall about this for the 3 years I've been here and what has it accomplished? Nothing.

You can tighten a nut only so many times before you realise its not gonna loossen

Me? I just like to argue;)
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 10:05:36 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Rumsfeld plays AH?


Yes. thats why the GVs are so lightly armored :D
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: doobs on October 29, 2005, 10:40:02 AM
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Originally posted by JTs
you any where near elizabeth exit 16 off the pike?  i'm bring 22 tons of cantalopes to shop rite for del tuesday morning.  be there till around 11:00 your time.  give me a pm
JT



Not to hijack, but ya need exit 13 for elizabeth, exit 16 is Giants Stadium in East Rutherford
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: lazs2 on October 29, 2005, 10:48:43 AM
dred... how could you be seeing the same arguement for years?   Why would you?

You aren't paying to read the board.... even if you simply like to read it.... why bother to read the threads that you don't like or don't interest you?

who is compelling yu to?  

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Baine on October 29, 2005, 10:59:11 AM
Did we have eny three years ago? I musta forgot.
So, voicing concerns isn't a good thing? Nothing changes?
Then why does post after post laud HTC for its customer service and response?
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Morpheus on October 29, 2005, 11:00:58 AM
we did not have eny limiter 3 years ago.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Donzo on October 29, 2005, 11:04:07 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No drediock.  You forget, the moment you pay for a game, not only do you have a say in how you play it, but you have a say in how others play it.


You're kidding...right?
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: rshubert on October 29, 2005, 11:33:50 AM
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Originally posted by Donzo
You're kidding...right?


Next time we're on together donzo i will explain the concept of "irony"

J/k:D
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Bronk on October 29, 2005, 12:24:39 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No drediock.  You forget, the moment you pay for a game, not only do you have a say in how you play it, but you have a say in how others play it.



LMFAO your $14.95 a month gives you the rite to play in HT's sandbox.
HT makes the rules  if ya dont like it leave .  If you do like it stay.
Also if you don't play by HT rules you can guess what might happen.

Bronk
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 29, 2005, 12:44:16 PM
No, HT is bound by the same rules of supply and demand also.


If he suddenly put jet engines on the La7, nearly all the players would leave.

So HT has to do his best to keep the customer base happy.  







That is unless he's a friggin millionaire anyway and is only doing this for ****s and giggles.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Bronk on October 29, 2005, 12:52:23 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No, HT is bound by the same rules of supply and demand also.


If he suddenly put jet engines on the La7, nearly all the players would leave.

So HT has to do his best to keep the customer base happy.  







That is unless he's a friggin millionaire anyway and is only doing this for ****s and giggles.


If you think Ht is going to radicly change things because of a small minority of whineres from a bb, your nuts.
Also your analogy is way off.
Lets say HT  added the B-29 tomorrow perk free.
1 the whine would be tremndous but just about all would continue to play.

So once again if ya don't like HT rules dont send him the $14.95.

Bronk
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 29, 2005, 01:49:43 PM
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If you think Ht is going to radicly change things because of a small minority of whineres from a bb, your nuts.


Night Time.




Point, Game, Match.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Lye-El on October 29, 2005, 04:33:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184

If he suddenly put jet engines on the La7, nearly all the players would leave.

 


I'd fly it. I've never been able to afford a 262.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Nomak on October 29, 2005, 04:59:12 PM
How bout instead we do this

Run to Wal-Mart first thing tomorrow and pick up Falcon4.0 AF ?

Thats what I did this morning:D

Dave
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Bronk on October 29, 2005, 05:12:38 PM
lasers, If you had $$ actualy invested in the game R&D then you would have a say.
It's still HTC world and we pay to play in it. Thus he makes the rules .



Bronk
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 07:32:47 PM
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Originally posted by doobs
Not to hijack, but ya need exit 13 for elizabeth, exit 16 is Giants Stadium in East Rutherford


And dont get caught there at rush hour.
If you do. Hope you packed a dinner with you cause its gonna be a while
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 29, 2005, 07:40:13 PM
No bronk.  Like I've said before, what happens in this game is determined by the suscribers.  I've already proved you wrong with night time.



And like I said, unless HT is a millionaire anyway (or can man-prostitute himself out easily) the game goes in the direction that the subscribers want it to.






Err, sorry HT for this sounding so cocky.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 07:41:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
dred... how could you be seeing the same arguement for years?   Why would you?

You aren't paying to read the board.... even if you simply like to read it.... why bother to read the threads that you don't like or don't interest you?

who is compelling yu to?  

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's


because I've been reading the boards for that long.

Like I said. I like to argue. But after several years of the same whines from the same people its getting stale.

For that matter why do you bother with the boards making the same arguements when you must have figured out by now its not gonna change anything.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 07:45:03 PM
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Originally posted by Baine
Did we have eny three years ago? I musta forgot.
So, voicing concerns isn't a good thing? Nothing changes?
Then why does post after post laud HTC for its customer service and response?


and what has eny changed? Nothing. you still have hordes
And a horde is a horde is a horde no matter what plane they are in.

My main complaint is about the Furballer/landgrabber arguement.
Its pointelss as nothing, or very little will ever really change about it.
The same arguement has been raging for years and little about the game has changed to address it and certainly not enough to have any kind of meaningfull difference.
And with good reason. There are probably as many people who like the landgrab /toolshed aspect of the game as there is that doesnt so there is little if any reason to change it.
And thus it hasnt and isnt going to change. so why bother argueing about it.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 07:52:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Baine
Then why does post after post laud HTC for its customer service and response?


because HTC does listen to its customers.
It just doesnt favor one segment of them.
And rightly so
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 07:56:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
LMFAO your $14.95 a month gives you the rite to play in HT's sandbox.
HT makes the rules  if ya dont like it leave .  If you do like it stay.
Also if you don't play by HT rules you can guess what might happen.

Bronk


DING DING DING DING DING!
We Have a Winnar!
(http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/original/blue-ribbon.gif)

:)
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2005, 08:07:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184



And like I said, unless HT is a millionaire anyway (or can man-prostitute himself out easily) the game goes in the direction that the subscribers want it to.

 


Then with this line of reasoning we can deduct that since somethings have been argued about for years with little if any changed that the game is this way because the subscribers as a whole want it this way.
Because if a significant enough number of subscribers didnt. Significant changes would have already been made. And we can use your "nighttime " statement as such an example.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: CHECKERS on October 30, 2005, 02:28:58 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and what has eny changed? Nothing. you still have hordes
And a horde is a horde is a horde no matter what plane they are in.

My main complaint is about the Furballer/landgrabber arguement.
Its pointelss as nothing, or very little will ever really change about it.
The same arguement has been raging for years and little about the game has changed to address it and certainly not enough to have any kind of meaningfull difference.
And with good reason. There are probably as many people who like the landgrab /toolshed aspect of the game as there is that doesnt so there is little if any reason to change it.
And thus it hasnt and isnt going to change. so why bother argueing about it.

 
Some things have changed, ENY , Fuel Burn and Distance between bases are big changes, and they have had huge impact on what planes I can use in game play .
 
 I agree 110% with most all you post about how these disscussions rapidly go from a debate of pros and cons  on the topic , to an insulting pissing contest , with the post topic being hijacked, ....... and so it goes... next thing you know I got some poor Buff driver telling me that my job in AcesHigh is fly escort for his sorry butt to win the war . ....and soforth . When all I posted was a simple request for HTC crew to have a look at trying  out a small little 3 country Fighter Town ,exactally  like we had in AirWarrior in the MA . It's not about changeing the game , but perhaps adding to it  ? or at least that's what this post and disscussion started out to be ..

  CHECKERS ...
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: lazs2 on October 30, 2005, 10:46:53 AM
well.... I have noticed that new features and maps somethimes favor the furballers and sometimes favor the strat girls and mouse wielders..

This has allways been the way.

Right now... the pendulum has swung toward making things a lot harder for the furballers to enjoy the game.   when it has swung the other way...

The strat girls have not been in the least bit shy about screeeshing out their protests.

Some things that people complain about get changed... some right away... some months or years down the road...  some not at all..  and some things change despite any input from players..

what does seem to remain constant (besides the complaining) is that the side that is having it good at the moment allways calls for the other side to stop complaining or asking for change.

dred... you are an example of this.   Otherewise... why would yu even read the threads?  there are plenty of others to read?   You claim to like to argue yet tell us not to argue?  little confusing wouldn't you say?

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: DipStick on October 30, 2005, 11:01:24 AM
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Originally posted by Dredilock

"NOTHING has changed.

NOTHING is going to change."


You're talking out your ren dred. Things are always changing in this game. Some for the better some not.

The one thing that does remain constant is change. Why do you think they have a "Bug Report", "Aircraft and Vehicles" and mainly a "Wish List" forum?

Wake up and smell the coffee.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Lye-El on October 30, 2005, 02:01:26 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2


The strat girls have not been in the least bit shy about screeeshing out their protests.

 


In response to posts by the furballers. I know you would like them acquiesce to your point of view and for only your voice to be heard. It seems to bug you that they have not. 14,000 posts doesn't make your point of view more valid. It just means you squawk a lot more. It makes your S/N ratio poor. Reminds me of Gunnit222. He too makes a lot of noise, apparently just because he can.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: JTs on October 31, 2005, 01:36:31 PM
momentary brain lapse 16 is meadowlands i have to get off there because of roadwork at 13. cant drag this long a** b**ch thru it.
Title: How bout instead we do this
Post by: Eden on October 31, 2005, 02:08:10 PM
Hmm  

I though Edison was Exit 11?  I guess there are a bunch of ways in.  

Anyway, new to the Arena (been out of town for a while).  Missed the old AW days and thought I'd drop in and say hi.  Obviously a few new acronyms to learn and some disgruntled players to watch my 6 for.  

Questions: Is the game fun?
Are skills the key to sucess?
Can you hop in the seat of a fighter and spend several hours white fisted and sweating?

If so, I'm in..


Sounds like the community is great...can't wait to give it a try.

/IT\ I remember you also.


Oh and,
Shoobies go home...