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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BUG_EAF322 on February 26, 2001, 05:20:00 PM
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Yesterday i was on the cv i thought heck why not i take a DHOG but i went really crazy and took the CHOG . So i loaded 2K and full rockets and took off crashed and took off and crashed and took off. Hey something is wrong i thaught. This got torque problems ok they exist.
Forget the bombs and only rockets now i got in the air
I went for Jabo to A9 and i met a c202 no problem just fly straight and level. And yep that worked no problems reachin the base , aim on the acks and gone they are i got 3 planes by just HO shooting and one on the way back with half a wing.(yep that makes 4 kills)
It's a real point and click plane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) i went in a laughter when a that c202 got behind me and raped all my paint.
one downside the backview is really bad, nice to know that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Endconclusion : it really brainless how to get kills in this (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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The Chog has 1 very good advantage over all other planes Bug. A single f4u-1C can kill an FH de-ack a small or medium field all in one sortie. Then you auger and come up in an m3 to take the field (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
1 man, 1 plane and m3. Field is yours. Very few people use this plane to its full advantage. Recovering property.
The ablilty to HO at will is just a bonus.
Dog out......
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C-hog aka "Ace Maker" <shrug> No biggy. I take em when outnumbered in attacking, or defending, and especially when I need an ego boost after getting clobbered several times in a row
cUrLy
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Originally posted by Wardog:
The Chog has 1 very good advantage over all other planes Bug. A single f4u-1C can kill an FH de-ack a small or medium field all in one sortie. Then you auger and come up in an m3 to take the field (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
1 man, 1 plane and m3. Field is yours. Very few people use this plane to its full advantage. Recovering property.
The ablilty to HO at will is just a bonus.
Dog out......
Lessee.... de-ack a small field.... kill a hanger...
P-47-D25
P-47-D30
P-38L
P-51D (if yer crazy enough to risk yer radiator (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) )
FW-190A8
F4U-1D
Lanc (with 500lb eggs)
Any of the above named kites are capable of killing the VH or FH (VH is my preference) and de-acking a field by themselves, be it a small, medium, or large field (I've de-acked large fields in the -38L before).
Also any of the kites above in a JABO role can kill a hanger easier than the -1C. The -1D carries 8 rockets as do the Jugs IIRC. The -38L carries 10. The -51D carries 6 or 8 (verra rarely JABO in this kite). The -1C only carries 4 rockets.
38L and Jugs can kill a single hanger w/o even firing a single round of .50 ammo.
Just thought I'd mention it Dog (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
BTW, a fully loaded jug can take down 4 V bases (acks AND hanger).
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Cave...
Then your gunnery with .50s is a 100x better than me. Chog 1 single pass can kill 4 ack right off. Dhog, p51, f6f p47 1 pass, not 1 ack dead! This is a hugh waste of ammo if your trying to de-ack with .50s..
Plus Chog still has a ton o ammo left over in case a con or 6 happen to come up.
Ya need to show me how your taking out ack with .50s only. Teach this old dog a new trick. I used to be able to do this a few versions ago. P51 1 pass ack dies. This aint so now.
Dog out.........
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50s are actually a great gun for deacking. IMO its just as good as the Hispanos since you can get a lotta lead on target in a short burst. I think thats all thats required with the ack.
As far as strafing hangers...sure, nothing beats the Hispanos.
-Ding
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i got some acks pretty easily in one pass with it . Really in the chog u don't care
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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It's not too hard Dog, just a little work. Run yer convergence out to max for best effect, and fire at 1000yds or less (3rd and 4th will be under 600yds time ya get to'em (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) )
With the .50s your convergence is ALOT more imporant. The HE part of the hispano shells lets them act like mini grenades with a touch of splash damage, so you can pull the ack down the side of the piper and still get the kill on it. Can't do that with .50s. Gotta pull the ack through the piper dead center.
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...and now your in the MA saying you've been killed 37 times by Chogs this, and chogs suck that, and I think you last were a Bishit yelling Niki this, and Niki that till we told you to shut the fuk up.
Is there no end to people who whine about these planes? Is it endless or do at some point they just realise this has been beaten to death and you sound like a nagging old whining skirt draggin hag?
SHUT UP.
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Will reset my convergence on .50s and give it a shot tonight. I used to love de-ackin with the p51.. Though i never set convergence past 400 with .50s as they dont have that lazer effect the hispanos have (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Dog out..........
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Any plane with 6 50s or more you can walk em across the ack so you don't have to be as accurate, with 4 or less you have to pause ever so slightly on target (but can be done even with 202s).
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Creamo, any plane that encourages AND gives result by flying it like an X-WING or a ship from Wing Commander is EXTREMELY bad for any "sim".
I consider all chog and n1k pilots to be imbeciles that cant get a kill unless they had BFG cannons and 1960+ perfoming airplanes.
Chogs I can stomach, the plane does have FM weakness and will stall if the idiot inside pulls too hard for too long (unfortunately that comes after the skilless dweeb gets 4+ kills by mere spraying). N1ks I just run away from them, or if shot, I try to HO another non-n1k plane so as to not give the n1k the kill. After all, he didnt deserve it.
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Originally posted by Wardog:
Will reset my convergence on .50s and give it a shot tonight. I used to love de-ackin with the p51.. Though i never set convergence past 400 with .50s as they dont have that lazer effect the hispanos have (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Dog out..........
Only reason I adjust my convergence is because it's so important for the .50s now. 650yds convergence gives you the same distance between guns in the wing and at 1300yds. You can walk that across the ack and kill it. But it's a pain when ya forget to reset yer convergence and launch on a fighter sortie (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
But, as Fatty pointed out, the 6gun loadout is the preferred one for attacking ack. You can do it with the 4gun (I have), but you have to get closer to the guns to kill it w/o pausing on it.
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Oh, thanks for clearing that up TAC. What was I thinking?
Whine on, I stand corrected.
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Hispanos are better for getting buildings down as well (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Views in f4u arent that poor - you can always tweak your views...
nobody flies with default view settings if he wants to maintain SA.
P-38 is a plane that has probably worst views!
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Fly ur NIK creamo i don't mind
i didn't say that the chog sux btw.
getting squeaky hey
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<chuckle>
Boys, you could walk from Maine to London on all the radiators you guys have shot holes while I've tried to do any kind of de-acking and not get your feet wet (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
So far, I've had the best luck with the Yak and Typhoon with air-to-ground strafing. Yak's low ammo makes that tough...yet the Typhoons rockets really clobber a hangar.
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Paul J. Busiere
http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
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You know, every time I read one of these C-hog threads I think to myself "next tour, I may fly nothing else BUT the C-hog". After all, it's all anyone sees anyway, right? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Zero is a great de-acker too, with just MG's +)
SKurj
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Chuck the Chog!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I find the 30mm on Fw 190a8 to be better for taking out ack and hangers, it only takes a few rounds to take out any ack but it does carry a smaller ammo load vs. the CHog.
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Milo
3./JG2
"Speed is the cushion of sloppiness"
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The P-38 is the best plane for de-acking I've seen. The nose mounted guns are just too concentrated for the ack to stand a chance.
AKDejaVu
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wow bug... you found 3 guys stupid enough to HO you while you were in a CHog???? What times do you fly sounds like some easy kills! No one even took advantage of the fact that you couldn't climb or turn or accelerate?
I fly the D but sure hope the C stays in the game because if it were gone then every loser would be trying to HO my d instead of wetting themselves when they see the HO coming.
lazs
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hehe, reminds me of my last B-26 run this tour (wait a minute, my only B-26 run this tour). There I was, trying to get enough alt to hit the enemy fleet just off our coast, when I see a dot on my long, high six. I knew it was an enemy, so I watched. Sure enough, I see it begin to drop.
"Please don't be an F4, please don't be an F4..."
It was an F4. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
I wait until he is about 1.4 out and open fire. He is warping madly, trying to roll through my fire. I center the pipper on the middle of his rotation and lay on the trigger. I see sparks and begin to feel I may have a chance with a few more hits...
...when he was within 500 or so I began wondering how I wasn't dead yet. It was then I noted the yellow ring clearly visible through the machinegun fire. I smiled grimly to myself knowing he wasn't going to get me. A second later he lost his wing.
Of course I missed the fleet with the bombs. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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funny how many folks like cannons over the MGs foe deacking where all it needs to take out an ack is something like 2-4 cal 50 rounds to kill one... and the cal 50s and other Mgs have a so much better trajectory for that kindda thing.
(just strafe across 1 ack and it will be dead for sure)
DW6
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I dont know, but maybe I am playing a different game than everyone else. I have seen a big variety of planes lately in the MA. Its not just all C-hogs and N1k's.
I think some folks on this board just like to hear themselves whine. It gives them a sense of importance I guess. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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The D-Hog has to put half a second of .50 cal into an ack to kill it. A CHOG or n1k can simply do a snapshot in the general direction. One ping from them cannons will down the ack.
Take a n1k or chog, get them fast on the deck and strafe a field while cutting the grass...every ack you see you just bank the plane to one side, wait until the ack is just before and a bit above the aiming dot spray until the ack passes the dot, find next ack, repeat. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
A-26 should replace the CHOG (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Anyway this thread is getting long (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I've been deacking with P47 and Tiffie..
I prefer tiffie alot, fast low altitude runner with 2000lb bombs that doesnt bother much.
just couple of shots and acks goes down with tiffie.
P47 does it nice too, but needs more ammo and sometimes ack just takes multiple runs on it (somehow survives)