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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on October 31, 2005, 10:12:59 AM
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of course lada will be by shortly to tell us that the entire world is wrong and that Iran has no liberals or something.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173989,00.html
Iranian Liberals: Our President's a Moron
Monday, October 31, 2005
TEHRAN, Iran — Pro-democracy reformers denounced Iran's hard-line president Sunday for calling for Israel's annihilation, saying it harmed the country's international standing.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (search) said Wednesday that Israel is a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map," prompting international condemnation and an Israeli demand that Iran be expelled from the United Nations.
On Sunday, Ahmadinejad said his comments represented Iran's long-standing policy toward the Jewish state enunciated by the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini (search), who led the 1979 revolution, the Islamic Republic News Agency, or IRNA, said.
"These words are the same ones that the late Imam [Khomeini] said," Ahmadinejad said, explaining that he only added one sentence about "the powers of arrogance," seen as a reference to the United States.
Iran does not recognize the existence of Israel and Khomeini had repeatedly called for its destruction.
But former reformist president Mohammad Khatami (search) criticized Ahmadinejad, saying "those words have created hundreds of political and economic problems for us in the world," IRNA said.
It was the first time in a quarter century that there was a clear-cut rift over a major policy position drawn up by Khomeini.
"Ahmadinejad's remarks harmed Iran. It was irresponsible and illogical," said Rajabali Mazrouei (search), a prominent reformer and former deputy. "We can't be more extremist than Palestinians themselves."
Morad Veisi (search), a leading political analyst, said it was the first time that an Iranian head of state was openly calling for the destruction of Israel.
"Khomeini was a spiritual leader, not head of government. Ahmadinejad apparently is not even familiar with the world of politics," he said.
Extremists, however, were motivated by Ahmadinejad's remarks. About 300 men and women turned up Sunday at the offices of the Headquarters for Commemorating Martyrs of the Global Islamic Movement (search) to volunteer for suicide bomb attacks against Israel.
A spokesman for the group said it had signed up more than 45,000 volunteers to undergo training for suicide attacks since it began recruiting in June 2004.
"More than 1000 of them have already been trained. Many of them don't need training since they are already members of the elite Revolutionary Guards (search) and paramilitary Basij forces," Mohammad Ali Samadi said.
Several senior officials, including presidential adviser Mojtaba Rahmandoust and Parliamentary speaker Gholam Ali Haddad Adel, were at the gathering.
"The Iranian nation wants this regime removed from the world map," Rahmandoust told the gathering held at a building owned by the semiofficial Martyr Foundation.
In London, Britain said Iran poses a challenge to the international community, citing the call to wipe out Israel and charging Tehran was involved in the Iraqi insurgency and had nuclear weapons ambitions.
"Iran has to change its behavior in terms of support for terrorism, in deceit over nuclear weapons and in terms of its relationship and threats to other members of the international community," British Defense Secretary John Reid (search) told the British Broadcasting Corporation on Sunday.
Reid said Iran appeared to be trying to confront the international community, which is considering how to respond.
Reid said he did not have conclusive proof that the Iranian government was involved in providing weapons to insurgents in Iraq. But he said there was evidence of the involvement of Iranian elements in the Iraqi insurgency.
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geesh no one else see the irony in this?
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Extremists, however, were motivated by Ahmadinejad's remarks. About 300 men and women turned up Sunday at the offices of the Headquarters for Commemorating Martyrs of the Global Islamic Movement (search) to volunteer for suicide bomb attacks against Israel.
A spokesman for the group said it had signed up more than 45,000 volunteers to undergo training for suicide attacks since it began recruiting in June 2004.
WTF? Its like painting "NUKE ME" on your forehead.
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I was actually thinking of this statement here
Iranian Liberals: Our President's a Moron
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Yes. We think their president is a moron too!
What a coincidence.
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Hell, I think the lil monkey is a moron too.
But he's our moron, and I'm not too happy about their moron calling our moron a ****in moron.
We may have to kick their asses, and show 'em who the moron really is...
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Hell, I think the lil monkey is a moron too.
But he's our moron, and I'm not too happy about their moron calling our moron a ****in moron.
We may have to kick their asses, and show 'em who the moron really is...
Hang....the iranian liberals are calling THEIR president a moron for stirring up the perverbial pot.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I was actually thinking of this statement here: "Iranian Liberals: Our President's a Moron"
Ah, so an American calling his Prez a moron is like an Iranian liberal calling his President a moron? And Iranians = bad so American Liberals = bad?
Is this the point that you're trying to make?
Whadda complete joke.
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The conclusion I came to is that liberals all over the world are smart enough to realise that politians are morons.
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Same...
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Hang....the iranian liberals are calling THEIR president a moron for stirring up the perverbial pot.
Oh. Then I guess that would make me the moron.
ok, shows over folks.. move along, move along...
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Originally posted by Nash
Ah, so an American calling his Prez a moron is like an Iranian liberal calling his President a moron? And Iranians = bad so American Liberals = bad?
Is this the point that you're trying to make?
Whadda complete joke.
Here's Nash :confused:
Here's Nash reading between the lines :huh
I wasn't passing judgement I was just stateing that our liberals (among others) call Bush a moron......and THEIR liberals call their president a moron hence that pesky thing we Americans call a title....you know the one that says something to the effect of something in common. You will never hear me say Bush is anything close to a brilliant man. I would like to quote SNL and say the one word that sums up Bush quite nicely......strategery
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/u/L/bush_strategery.jpg)
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I wasn't passing judgement I was just stateing that our liberals (among others) call Bush a moron......and THEIR liberals call their president a moron hence that pesky thing we Americans call a title....you know the one that says something to the effect of something in common.
Oh... really?
You weren't passing judgement?
You were just saying "our liberals call Bush a moron......and THEIR liberals call their president a moron.... something to the effect of something in common."
Common how?
Give me a break Gunslinger. Retarded.
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Originally posted by Nash
Oh... really?
You weren't passing judgement?
You were just saying "our liberals call Bush a moron......and THEIR liberals call their president a moron.... something to the effect of something in common."
Give me a break Gunslinger. Retarded.
Nash meet title: "looks like we have something in common with Iran after all"
Title meet Nash: Comon how?
Nash meet article:Iranian Liberals: Our President's a Moron (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173989,00.html)
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"Nash meet article: Foxnews.com"
Holy.....
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Originally posted by Nash
"Nash meet article: Foxnews.com"
Holy.....
That's what I thought was so funny. The whole thing is dripping with Irony. Of course you being a liberal Canadian that has his panties in a bunch for American politics just HAVE to assume that I'm trying to be an bellybutton and talk smack about liberals.
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Then explain to me... hell, everyone, what you thought was so "ironic."
Yeah.... Lets see you do that.
What's the magical gist of it that you get, that we don't?
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(http://www.meei.harvard.edu/shared/oto/images/ear.gif)
I can't hear you.
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i·ro·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies
The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit1.
Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.
Dramatic irony.
Socratic irony.
A nation that is not on the invite list at the white house and could probably subsadise a school lunch program selling "deth to amerrika/boosh is satan" T-shirts has a moron for a president (so say the liberals) just like the US who's very president put the above mentioned nation on the axis of evil list and is in fact a moron (so say the liberals....among others) and it's all reported so neatly by none other than foxnews.
c'mon work with me here.
ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
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Gibberish.
Useless gibberish.
People like you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Period.
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Originally posted by Nash
Gibberish.:cry
Useless gibberish. :cry
People like you shouldn't be allowed to vote.:furious
Period.:cry
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Awww... Nice edit.
Words aint workin' for ya... So scratch 'em, huh?
Mebbe the little emoticons will make whatever point you're trying to make more salient.... more profound... eh?
Turns out? Not really.
Yer clicking on happy faces is all.
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I think the you're being a little too hard on Gunslinger, aren't you? You fed up about something? Bush's quickly thrown bone to the hard right to deflect attention off of Scootergate, maybe?
I found irony in Hangtime's post - threatening military action to "kick their moron's a**" - after misinterpreting/misunderstanding the situation.
Shoot first, ask questions later. At least with his second post he apologized and pulled all the troops home, though.
:aok
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actually nash... it is people like you who are not allowed to vote here.
lazs
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Originally posted by Nash
Awww... Nice edit.
Words aint workin' for ya... So scratch 'em, huh?
Mebbe the little emoticons will make whatever point you're trying to make more salient.... more profound... eh?
Turns out? Not really.
Yer clicking on happy faces is all.
yea when logic fails and words fall on deaf ears because of grudges and ideology.....emoticos work perfectly
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"When logic fails?"
Curious thing to say. Care to point me to where you used this so-called "logic?"
Are you lamenting its failure because you've failed to, you know, actually produce it?
"When logic fails."
Are those three words strung together by happenstance? I mean, do you mean anything by them? If so - mea culpa - and throw me a bone:
Where exactly here is your logic buried and what is it?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I wasn't passing judgement I was just stateing that our liberals (among others) call Bush a moron......
ok ok pass me two pairs of mufflers and bring morons here.
btw.. about post from Fox....
Is it just me or, they finaly released information, that those famous quotations from Iranian president are just few words, whitch has been taken from his speech while he were quoting somebody else, with out his points ?
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Originally posted by lada
ok ok pass me two pairs of mufflers and bring morons here.
btw.. about post from Fox....
Is it just me or, they finaly released information, that those famous quotations from Iranian president are just few words, whitch has been taken from his speech while he were quoting somebody else, with out his points ?
if you quote what somone else says to make a point aren't you making the same point?
"as the imam says 'israel should be wiped off the map'" que applause.....isnt' that really the same thing? EDIT: not to mention he defended his remarks the day later by saying he stands by what he said.
Nash I'm done talking to you untill you get your panties out of the bunch they are in. This entire post was about humor and irony and you failed to see both because you are so blinded by your ideological hatred
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
if you quote what somone else says to make a point aren't you making the same point?
We had guy in yurope, his name was Adolf and he said " Give me 4 years and i will make germany strong " and he were quite successful with this rhetoric.
Originally posted by lada
Give me 4 years and i will make germany
WATCH OUT .. LADA SAID THAT HES GOING TO REBUILD NAZI GERMANY !!!!
do i have to say more ?
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That's a far cry from saying Israel needs to be "wiped off the map"
what you are saying is that the orriginal is "wiped off the map" and what the president said was israel needs to be "wiped"
Completly different but keep em comin Lada. The entire world (to include Iran) thinks you are wrong, you are in the extreme minority here
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Here is something the Iranians have in common with Iranians....What the He....l is this? (http://www.palmpaints.com/link.htm)
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Here is something the Iranians have in common with Iranians....What the He....l is this? (http://www.palmpaints.com/link.htm)
Lada will have you beleive that is western propaganda.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Nash I'm done talking to you untill you get your panties out of the bunch they are in. This entire post was about humor and irony and you failed to see both because you are so blinded by your ideological hatred
Oh - this is "humor" and "irony."
And I couldn't see it because I'm "blinded" by something or other.
Yet everyone else could, which led you to post the follow-up: "geesh no one else see the irony in this?".... and you spending the rest of the thread trying to explain to everyone what your big joke actually was.
I could care less if you're "done talking" to me. That means absolutely zero. I don't care. I may be off base, we all are from time to time, but I aint gonna shut up.
Forget it.
I don't put up with passive pot-shots, and I aint prone to letting even the little things slide. I've seen all too well how (dumb) easy it is for these things enter the broader discourse as if they were thruths. Only because they weren't ever challenged. End up paying for it, ultimately.
Screw that...
This is why I like guys like Toad so much. He has no time for it either. Holden? He's genuinely fricken maddenly funny... and whip-smart, and he also doesn't have time for it.
But they put up with it, and I don't. Call it a character flaw. It probably is.
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(http://www.volantec.biz/personal/images/madCat.jpg)
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....wherein Hang furiously Googles "mad cat", locates appropriate picture 2nd row, 1st in, and posts it. As if to say.... what?
What?
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Originally posted by Nash
Oh - this is "humor" and "irony."
And I couldn't see it because I'm "blinded" by something or other.
Yet everyone else could, which led you to post the follow-up: "geesh no one else see the irony in this?".... and you spending the rest of the thread trying to explain to everyone what your big joke actually was.
I could care less if you're "done talking" to me. That means absolutely zero. I don't care. I may be off base, we all are from time to time, but I aint gonna shut up.
Forget it.
I don't put up with passive pot-shots, and I aint prone to letting even the little things slide. I've seen all too well how (dumb) easy it is for these things enter the broader discourse as if they were thruths. Only because they weren't ever challenged. End up paying for it, ultimately.
Screw that...
This is why I like guys like Toad so much. He has no time for it either. Holden? He's genuinely fricken maddenly funny... and whip-smart, and he also doesn't have time for it.
But they put up with it, and I don't. Call it a character flaw. It probably is.
Actually I call it a troll fest because that's what it sounds like:
I replyed first after no one had commented
Vulcan saw something different in the thread
Laser agreed with the article
hang was confused
and then there's little poor nash that has something to prove every time somone says the word liberal that blasts me for posting it in the first place jumping to monumental conclusions.
Do us a favor and re-read ALL your posts in context to what everyone else here has posted and see who is blazenly off base.
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Nice summary.
Kinda weird, but oh well.
You bet yer arse I'm gonna say something when you pawn off BS on Liberals.
Live with it. Dunno what else to say.
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Am I the only one shocked that Iran has some sorta Ministry of Suicide Bombers to Wipe Israel of the Map?
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yup.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Lada will have you beleive that is western propaganda.
Shall i google some crimes from US and post it here ?
Or you belive that it is legal fun sponsored by goverment ?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Am I the only one shocked that Iran has some sorta Ministry of Suicide Bombers to Wipe Israel of the Map?
yeep they have it for many years... Web pages are in Canada and mail server is hosted in USA.
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face it nash... nobody likes liberals....You smell funny.
lazs
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Originally posted by lada
Shall i google some crimes from US and post it here ?
Or you belive that it is legal fun sponsored by goverment ?
no one in here says our country is so perfect and peacefull like you say about Iran.
and Nash you are going off the handle I'm not bagging on liberals in this thread. The only one I've bagged on is you because you are acting like an attention potato ******
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As always it's Nashs typical artsy feely dodgy never really makes a point but sure puts up lots of text argument... I had to go back 3 or 4 times and reread his post to honestly make an assumption that YES his head is actually up his CanDUHian asss munchin on a Klondike Bar.
It appears that Nash is the regular pimpled faced, prepube, Lumber Jack wannabee. But I digress... He's soon to be Hockey material.
Oh and Nash? If yer reading this....do you know what Hunters in the Good 'Ol USA use Maple Leafs for?
Yep!!! Enjoy that Klondike Bar..... It's Deer Season here!
Mac
:aok
Oh and BTW I like Liberals, I think every Republican should own two or three.
~Not a personal attack, meerily a calculated assumption to a lesser evil.~
With Love,
Mac
Nash are you so "American Envy" that you can't see the probs in CanaDUH?
:huh:rofl
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Yer quite the attention seeker, aren't you?
Congrats.
You've got my attention.
Worth it?
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Yep.
Spewl forth that Northern froth that so imbitters you.
I must enjoy.
Mac
BTW how's the Klondike Bar?
:D
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'Klurig Språkvetare'
:p
Mac
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Nash I knew if I threw enough stink bait out there a Carp like you'd bite.
I love fishin at night. Brings the weak ones in.
:D
Mac
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Not to get off topic or to let Northern Liberals defile the thread... I believe that Iran is trying to invoke the Free World into a all for one, winner takes all War. The UN is worthless, Euro is noncommited and the rest of the World is Pacifistic. "It's not in my Country, so I don't have to worry."
Mac
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The Free World awaits the reply from Nash.
BTW did you purposely remove your last comment? Or did it just like disappear Nash?
You are so easy.
If both the Free World and the Muslim World would put an effort to sustain aggressions. Then there may be a source of communications. Talk about wiping Isreal off the map doesn't help.
Supposed we, Americans, Brits, Aussies had said "We've had enough, it's time to wipe off the World map, send thousands into the street protesting their dismise and televise it all over the World....Would the UN sanction the US? Maybe the World would be in a uproar. Because they actually know we might be able to do it.
The Crusades were done on horesback, technology has changed.
I like playing Poker and I can read faces... but when yer holding all the cards is nice to "Call".
TacNukes now, Bargain afterwards. The World will know we mean business and no more need to die.
~now we turn or attention to an affiliate from CanaDUH, whose Army and Naval Forces are presently preparing for battle...~
Nash, I understand that the entire CanaDUHian forces have been alerted?
Wasn't it difficult to get 2 Mounties and a Beaver into a canoe so early?
:D
Mac:huh
~Priceless~
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LOL Joke:
The nearest thing to a CanaDUHian Space Program...
Is the Annual Beaver Tossin Contest.
:rofl
Mac
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~sound of silence~
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Nash is either dead or tossin Beavers....
:D