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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: oboe on November 01, 2005, 04:13:12 PM
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I'm trying to go back and rent movies I had intended to see but never got around to and found this one at the library for a free rental.
I searched and there was a 2 yr old, small thread about this movie. Reviews were mixed, but I tell ya if you can put up with the slow pacing while the characters are developed, the gunfight is worth the wait.
I think this is Laz's kind of film. The main characters reminded me a little of the captain on Firefly - making their own way and minding their own business, but ready and willing to stand up for themselves without fear if wronged.
Maybe its just me, but on another level I found it symbolic commentary on today's American society.
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Originally posted by oboe
Maybe its just me, but on another level I found it symbolic commentary on today's American society.
I liked the movie, but it was slow.
How do you see it as a commentary on today's American Society?
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One of my all time favorite westerns.
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I like it, great sound quality when I saw it at the theater.
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RED DAWN!
WOLVERINESSSSSSSS!:O
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Yes. See Red Dawn again.
Skip "Open Range".
Skip it like it's the mother****ing plague.
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Great Freakin western.
"You the guy that killed our friend?"
"Well I reckon I am"
****BOOM****
I couldnt have said it any better myself.
When I get the money deffinately gonna add that to my collection.
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Red Dawn, the movie about the high school kids who take on the Russian army which invaded Colorado? That Red Dawn? You a Costner-hater? That I can understand, but Duvall is untouchable.
I thought there was symbolism where the groups in the movie correspond to groups of people in America today. The townfolk, the free grazers, and the evil rancher who controlled the town's lawman and a bunch of henchmen. If I was to say Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians you could probably figure out which was which and why.
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The greatness of Duval and the beauty of Bening are overshadowed by the suck of Costner. It's like pouring bleach into a fine soup.
Pound for pound, I'd watch Silverado. At least Costner is outnumbered in that one.
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movies are not real , they are make belive.
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Originally posted by rpm
The greatness of Duval and the beauty of Bening are overshadowed by the suck of Costner. It's like pouring bleach into a fine soup.
Pound for pound, I'd watch Silverado. At least Costner is outnumbered in that one.
I think I own Silverado so I can give that'n a look agin. But I don't remember as impressive sound quality in Silverado. The sounds of gunfight in Open Range were very impressive even in my simple home theater system.
I agree that Costner is not a great actor.
Bening is nice looking, even without makeup.
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Forrest Gump is good on a home theater. Nice surround sound effects.
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You know, that's another one I missed for some reason...
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I thought Costner did really well in this movie.
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"Open Range"? Isn't that the one with Tom Selik and Tom Cruise? Tom parks a HOT Ferrari into Toms garage and later they realize that Tom has something burning in the oven?
Excuse me, I feel the need to Hurl!!!!
Mac
:O
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If i had to pick, Would pick tomestone...
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Originally posted by rpm
Forrest Gump is good on a home theater. Nice surround sound effects.
The added benefit is that you can pause it and go piss. Movie was about 45 minutes too long, IMHO.
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I liked Open Range... only problem is during the gunfight it seemed like everyones revolver was at least a 12 shooter. But that seems a problem common to Hollywood. The light sabers in Starwars would have discharged much more quickly than depicted given the Alderaan technology of the era.
As for parallels to modern political thought I can see how Kostner and Duvall could be viewed as depicting free traders while the Irishman running the town was in favor of protectionist government trade policies. His buying the government and forcing the people to bow to unreasonably high beef prices shows the corrupting influence of election financing.
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Open Range is good, well worth it IMO.
If you like Duval, Second Hand Lions is awesome IMO.
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I have the last 44 minutes of that movie protected on my receiver hard drive....have probably seen it 50 times..GREAT
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Secondhand Lions is terrific. One of the few movies I like that I can also recommend to my parents, without hesitation.
Holden, that's an interesting take on the symbolism. I figured somebody would come up with a different one than mine. I also thought more than one person would think I was nuts, asserting there is no such thing as symbolism in movies...
I do think I saw Costner reload several times during the gunfight though. I was really unprepared for the way the fight started - I thought that was very atypical of a Hollywood fight. Thought it was great though.
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Yeah that was a great movie.
There were alot of good parts in that movie. When Costner blows the sign apart over the bar with, or when he walks up to that smurfy assasin dude in the street towards the end of the movie... "You the one that shot our friend?.... Bang!"
Or when Sue is being held by one of the Sheriffs' men and costner comes around the side of the buildings walks up and pumps his colts into his gut with little hesitation. hehe.
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costner is not a good actor in my book... he was a decent fit for this movie tho.
Oboe... all I got out of it was that individual human rights should trump government and that the only way you can get such fairness is by the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
An underlying point is that to be a nation of free men and riflemen you got to be good with the damn things and you don't get good unless you own and use the things and have the will to do so.
lazs
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Originally posted by john9001
movies are not real , they are make belive.
Say it ain't so!:confused:
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Open Range is good, well worth it IMO.
If you like Duval, Second Hand Lions is awesome IMO.
Agree 1000%. In fact, anything Duval is associated with gets bumped up a notch automatically. He's the coolest actor around. Not yer typical Hollywood twit.
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Great movie, recommend anyone who enjoys westerns to watch it. If you have purchased at least 1 rap album in the last month you probably should just rent Red Dawn or The Warriors and enjoy some innocent killing movies instead..
TJ
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Originally posted by lazs2
costner is not a good actor in my book... he was a decent fit for this movie tho.
Oboe... all I got out of it was that individual human rights should trump government and that the only way you can get such fairness is by the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
An underlying point is that to be a nation of free men and riflemen you got to be good with the damn things and you don't get good unless you own and use the things and have the will to do so.
lazs
I thought you would like it more than that. I thought the protagonists' values of honesty, hard work, self-reliance, respect for other people and the willingness to fight for what's right would resonate with you and make it one of your favorites. Plus, revolvers galore!
Are we a nation of free men? Or are we more like the townfolk?
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Originally posted by oboe
I thought you would like it more than that. I thought the protagonists' values of honesty, hard work, self-reliance, respect for other people and the willingness to fight for what's right would resonate with you and make it one of your favorites. Plus, revolvers galore!
Are we a nation of free men? Or are we more like the townfolk?
We are more like the towns folk, but not because evil republicans controll everything.
Because evil politicians on BOTH sides sold us out for more power.
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open range is one of my top 2 or 3 all time westerns.
great movie, slow and thoughtful, more like the slower pace of life back then. really really well done IMHO
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
We are more like the towns folk, but not because evil republicans controll everything.
Because evil politicians on BOTH sides sold us out for more power.
I think you are probably right about this. When a person stereotypes like I did in that case there are bound to be in inconsistencies. Plenty of good republicans and evil democrats exist I'm sure.
The thing that struck me as Democrat-like about the townspeople is their nameless mediocrity and dependence. Nobody would stand up as they were getting walked all over - they just sortof cowered and thought only of protecting their families.
The Republican-like qualities of the rancher - well, wealth obviously - but also the use of conflict to gain power, the subversion of public offices for personal ends, the selfishness and greed.
And of course that left all the good qualities for the Libertarian heroes. It's my bias showing, pure and simple.
But, the Republicans do control the White House, the Senate, the House of Representatives, and soon the Supreme Court.
Are there successful Libertarian politicans anywhere?
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Tombstone...
Young Guns...
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Unforgiven
"Any men don't wanna get killed better clear on out the back."
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Open Range was good... But I still like The Wild Bunch what a great movie!
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Oboe... I did like the movie. It was simplistic and that is what I got out of it.
I also really like unforgiven and the wild bunch. even tombstone.. I think firefly is a great western series.
all of those movies had a common thread.
In order to be an individual the heroes in every one of em had to break the law. In all the movies save the wild bunch (and somewhat in that one)... trying to fit in did not work. It is hard to put up with the power grabbers when you have the means and the will to resist.
lazs
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Unforgiven is a masterpiece.
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I know that a lot of guys who have really ugly criminal pasts and are now pretty much upstanding citizens (more or less) found "unforgiven"....
uncomfortable. we all own a copy tho.
lazs