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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lazs2 on November 04, 2005, 09:07:53 AM
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McCain got involved with kalifornia politics... He is endorsing a yes vote on 73,74,75,76 and 77
got a 6 page fold out full color add yesterday in the mail.
lazs
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I thought he was against the one with the judges? I saw a commercial about it. Why is he involved in california politics in the first place?
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He is prolly making noises so he can get the nomination in 08
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
He is prolly making noises so he can get the nomination in 08
He'll have my vote if he does.
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Originally posted by Sandman
He'll have my vote if he does.
Mine to.
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Mccain is a nice guy, but i think he is a little crazy from all the years in a NV prison.
you know that when the NV found out he was a admirals son they offered to release him, he refused. I think he could have done more good for the other prisoners by getting out and telling what was going on in the prisons.
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A McCain ticket is a McCain whitehouse, unless the number of Republicans willing to fall on their sword to make a point (as demonstrated by the Harriet Miers nomination) continues to rise.
I think I could vote for McCain.
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Originally posted by john9001
Mccain is a nice guy, but i think he is a little crazy from all the years in a NV prison.
you know that when the NV found out he was a admirals son they offered to release him, he refused. I think he could have more good for the other prisoners by getting out and telling what was going on in the prisons.
Hey look. Somebody believed the propaganda Bush's pals put out in 2000.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Hey look. Somebody believed the propaganda Bush's pals put out in 2000.
Hey look somone beleives the lefts portrayal of the Bush 2000 campaign propaganda. :aok
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McCain is not a republican. He pretends he is, but he is not.
McCain is an appeaser. He and his ilk should be movved to a special party called the "appeasement party" where they belong.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Hey look somone beleives the lefts portrayal of the Bush 2000 campaign propaganda. :aok
Hey look, someone believes the right's drivel about the left's portrayal of the right's propaganda about the 2000 election!:)
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Hey look, someone has bought into McCains wishy washy tripe. :)
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Originally posted by Bodhi
McCain is not a republican. He pretends he is, but he is not.
McCain is an appeaser. He and his ilk should be movved to a special party called the "appeasement party" where they belong.
I think you'll find that the Republican party's position and platform has always been a dynamic thing. The current Reagan flavored GOP isn't going to last forever.
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Originally posted by Sandman
I think you'll find that the Republican party's position and platform has always been a dynamic thing. The current Reagan flavored GOP isn't going to last forever.
I disagree. Most Republicans have conviction (no jail jokes please) and stand by them. McCain is too like Kerry in his wishy washy ways.
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Increase your time scale. Compare the GOP of this decade to the GOP of decades past. Same goes for the Democrats.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I disagree. Most Republicans have conviction (no jail jokes please) and stand by them. McCain is too like Kerry in his wishy washy ways.
Sure, they're for smaller government, fiscal responsibility, individual rights, and less government spending, right? The current administration sure stuck to its convictions in all of those regards.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Sure, they're for smaller government, fiscal responsibility, individual rights, and less government spending, right? The current administration sure stuck to its convictions in all of those regards.
Those would be conservitive views, Bush isnt much of a conservitive.
Just like the dems, the republicans have no clue what their base or the people want, and don't give a ****.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Mine to.
Originally posted by Sandman
He'll have my vote if he does.
as a former Arizona Demo turn North Dakota Republican, I'll stand by my former senator. :)
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I disagree. Most Republicans have conviction (no jail jokes please) and stand by them. McCain is too like Kerry in his wishy washy ways.
Like?
Head Start and National Healthcare and the Model Cities program and the Department of Housing and Urban Development and automatic cost of living increases for Social Security.....
Oh wait... that was a Republican President.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
McCain is not a republican. He pretends he is, but he is not.
McCain is an appeaser. He and his ilk should be movved to a special party called the "appeasement party" where they belong.
I think this is a great idea. Watch out though, he might grab 70% of the electorate right out of the middle.
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Oboe, he may well do just that. Although I feel he is too damn wishy washy to be the president.
Like Bush or not, atleast he has stood by what he believed in too date and has not played to the crowd. Especially considering the crowd is so ill informed it is disgusting.
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Cripes, I wish 'ol Bob Dole would run again.
Loved that guy, thought he was the only honest politician I ever saw.
Principles are so outdated these days.
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He's angling to be Arnold's vp nominee.
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I only ever met one honest politician in my life.
Say what you like about his politics, that little guy with the bow tie was one helluva human being.
(http://www.bread.org/images/newsletter/2004/january/Sen.-Paul-Simon.jpg)
I agree. McCain is wishy washy. But he's probably better than the alternatives.
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I like him, I'd vote for him.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I like him, I'd vote for him.
12 yr olds aren't allowed to vote here tard....
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McCain knows alot about california just ask alan cranston (oops hes dead) or any of the other 7 in the home savings cover up.
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I wouldn't vote for mccain unless a democrat would get in if I didn't vote for him.
He is the manchurian candidate in my opinion.
I think that supporting Arnie is a way for him to curry some favor with the more conservative republicans who view him like I do... Most of us view him as "allmost as bad as a full blown democrat but without the baggage they carry"
He doesn't owe or have friends in the union and isn't likely to no matter what so it doesn't hurt him to go against them here.... only helps..
He isn't likely to woo the far left so being for parental notification only helps him not hurts..
He can woo more conservatives by being for a balanced budget in kalifornia.. Teachers ain't gonna vote for him anyway...
He is playing it smart and getting some publicity by stepping up and backing Arnies propositions.
lazs
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Originally posted by Bodhi
12 yr olds aren't allowed to vote here tard....
:(
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Here's two possible candidates for the 2008 Presidential election:
(http://www.state.gov/cms_images/newer_8x10_500e_300.jpg)
VS
(http://clinton.senate.gov/images/photos/500k/IMG_4664.jpg)
Cat fight supreme....
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Sandman
I think you'll find that the Republican party's position and platform has always been a dynamic thing..
Comparing that to Kerrys campaign, I think you would find Kerrys campaign to be absolutely a textbook case in "dynamic" when the context of "dynamic" means fluid, changing daily with the political wind, saying what someone wants to hear, reflecting the polls rather than representing true beliefs and conviction.
dago
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Rice wont run.
Clinton cant win.
dago
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Originally posted by Dago
Comparing that to Kerrys campaign, I think you would find Kerrys campaign to be absolutely a textbook case in "dynamic" when the context of "dynamic" means fluid, changing daily with the political wind, saying what someone wants to hear, reflecting the polls rather than representing true beliefs and conviction.
dago
Don't get me wrong... There's seems to be a fine line between pandering and representing your constituency. My point was that the party platforms do change even radically over time.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Don't get me wrong... There's seems to be a fine line between pandering and representing your constituency. My point was that the party platforms do change even radically over time.
Wouldn't you prefer a political party that had the courage to change and adjust to our chaning times? I would.
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Originally posted by Dago
Wouldn't you prefer a political party that had the courage to change and adjust to our chaning times? I would.
Such a thing exists? Pray tell, where? It aint here.
Love my country. Tolerate my government.
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Originally posted by Dago
Wouldn't you prefer a political party that had the courage to change and adjust to our chaning times? I would.
No argument from me.
From the look of things I can't see McCain as being any less Republican than Bush or Swarzenegger. Hell, Clinton got elected for his second term by basically stealing Dole's platform. With the exception of just a few issues, I see very little difference between the GOP and the DNC. Sure, there are whackjobs on the far left, but I think there are just as many on the far right. It's the ones in the middle that get elected to the oval nowadays.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Such a thing exists? Pray tell, where? It aint here.
Love my country. Tolerate my government.
Of the People.
By the People.
For the People.
Vote!
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Originally posted by Sandman
Of the People.
By the People.
For the People.
Vote!
I do.
I'd prefer a button that says REJECT! but we dont have that. I'd love it if we had the option of sending ALL the nominees back and telling the political parties to do it over until they send us one we want.
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Don't get me wrong... There's seems to be a fine line between pandering and representing your constituency. My point was that the party platforms do change even radically over time.
Our problem isn't that he votes how his constituents want. It's that he doesn't vote like a republican.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Our problem isn't that he votes how his constituents want. It's that he doesn't vote like a republican.
Good for him, IMHO. He's there to represent the people not the gawdamned party.
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IMHO what we need on EVERY election ballot is 1 additional check box!
with the title NONE of the ABOVE!
Make em pick new candidates and rerun the election until they put up someone worth voting for!
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Originally posted by Sandman
Good for him, IMHO. He's there to represent the people not the gawdamned party.
He really just does whatever he feels is best for us and I don't think he gives a rats bellybutton about what the people he represents actually want.
For instance, most Arizonans want illegal immigration dealt with and the border more secure. We have passed props that have been ignored, while McCain is authoring a bill with the liberals in order to grant citizenship to illegals.
The "maverick" sentator is just a potato.
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Originally posted by Widewing
Here's two possible candidates for the 2008 Presidential election:
(http://www.state.gov/cms_images/newer_8x10_500e_300.jpg)
VS
(http://clinton.senate.gov/images/photos/500k/IMG_4664.jpg)
Cat fight supreme....
My regards,
Widewing
neither would get my vote.
BTW i will be able to vote in 08 :aok
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Originally posted by NUKE
He really just does whatever he feels is best for us and I don't think he gives a rats bellybutton about what the people he represents actually want.
For instance, most Arizonans want illegal immigration dealt with and the border more secure. We have passed props that have been ignored, while McCain is authoring a bill with the liberals in order to grant citizenship to illegals.
The "maverick" sentator is just a potato.
What does the Senator have to do with state propositions?
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I was just using them as an example of what the people of Arizona have voiced and want done regarding the border, among other things.
McCain has voiced his disaproval of the propositions and is acting in opposition to what he knows is the will of the people.
Didn't mean to imply that McCain has any input for the resolutions being implemented.
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McAin /Feingold Finance reform act.
Screw Mcain..