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Title: Jarhead
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 04, 2005, 02:31:19 PM
Anyone going to go see it? Anyone already see it? Is it worth it?

Looks like its going to bring in some dough, first movie based on Iraq II. I had a dep meeting last night. The marine depers were also there, said their recruiter is taking them to see it.
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on November 04, 2005, 02:32:13 PM
Gulf War I, not about the current one.
-SW
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Post by: BlueJ1 on November 04, 2005, 02:39:37 PM
Close enough.

Iraq I
1.Kick Iraq arse.
2.Stop short of Bagdad
3.
Iraq II
1.Kick arse
2.Go all the way to Bagdad
3.Stay and clean up

Only major difference is the reasons behind the wars.
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Post by: Tarmac on November 04, 2005, 03:07:22 PM
Yeah, a pretty big difference.

- Iraq I - good reason
- Iraq II - what's the reason this month?
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Post by: lasersailor184 on November 04, 2005, 03:25:56 PM
Iraq 1 reason = UN said so.

Iraq 2 reason = UN said not to do it.
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Post by: Blooz on November 04, 2005, 03:26:49 PM
Not a real big difference...

Iraq I = Kick a dictators stinking army out of Kuwait.

Iraq II = Kick a stinking dictator out of the world.
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Post by: john9001 on November 04, 2005, 03:53:48 PM
actualy it was all one war, iraq 1 ended with a cease fire with conditions that saddam did not keep.

no oil for food, only oil for money.
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 04, 2005, 05:02:25 PM
Not to give out any spoilers but really you won't see much actual combat in this movie.  A recurring theme in the book is Marines that want to fight that never get the chance.

I read probably the best review of the movie today in Maxim, "oscar material that you can actually watch"
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Post by: BlueJ1 on November 04, 2005, 05:04:29 PM
Whats the name of the book? I need something to read.
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 04, 2005, 05:09:01 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Whats the name of the book? I need something to read.


"welcome to the suck"
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Post by: megadud on November 04, 2005, 05:21:38 PM
actually i think the dood goes to saudi arabia not iraq, i read that somewhere. could be wrong i never actually read the book or saw the movie. The article said it was overrated. They said it wasn't very uptempo and it wasn't a very good war movie. I still want to see it though...
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Post by: BlueJ1 on November 04, 2005, 05:25:51 PM
Saudi Arabia was the jump off point for both wars.
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 04, 2005, 05:36:10 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Saudi Arabia was the jump off point for both wars.


Incorrect.  We did not invade Iraq during "Iraqi Freedom" from SA.  The jump off point was kuwait.  The Sauds let us run non-combat missions only (IE supply and medevac) from their airbases.
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Post by: BlueJ1 on November 04, 2005, 05:41:14 PM
Sorry, wrong use of words. I generalize to much. Meant to say in a way that we used Saudi Arabia in both wars. Not as a invasion point. My bad.
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Post by: Seraphim on November 04, 2005, 05:45:44 PM
Wasn't this post about the movie?

I want to see it...looks good
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 04, 2005, 05:50:57 PM
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Originally posted by Seraphim
Wasn't this post about the movie?

I want to see it...looks good


I agree it looks really good.  I read a bad review on MSNBC.com today about it that it was all "foreplay and no climax"  but then again that's exactly these Marines expereince in GW I.  They got all worked up to not even be used.

also, when making a war movie today it's kind of hard to compete with the real thing in the news.
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Post by: Barnswallow on November 04, 2005, 07:38:55 PM
OohRah!
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 04, 2005, 07:40:36 PM
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Originally posted by Barnswallow
OohRah!


"I thank God for every day that he gives me the Corps"


I know Marines in real life that say stuff like this.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 04, 2005, 07:48:08 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Close enough.

Iraq I
1.Kick Iraq arse.
2.Stop short of Bagdad
3.
Iraq II
1.Kick arse
2.Go all the way to Bagdad
3.Stay and clean up

Only major difference is the reasons behind the wars.



Or the 2 thousand dead young Americans.
Now there going to use some of Sadams old officers LOL what a slap in the face to the families of the dead service men.

One day there the enemy and the next its hi ya buddy what a croc.
This is a recipie for disaster how is the moron that dreamed this nightmare up?
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 04, 2005, 07:53:02 PM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Or the 2 thousand dead young Americans.
Now there going to use some of Sadams old officers LOL what a slap in the face to the families of the dead service men.

One day there the enemy and the next its hi ya buddy what a croc.
This is a recipie for disaster how is the moron that dreamed this nightmare up?



I read the report and hardly see how this is a slap.  Soldiers and Marines serve in the US military every day that arent loyal to George Bush.  Most of Sadam's army Surrendered in 92 because they didn't feel they should have invaded Kuwait.  Either way these ARE Iraqis and they do have military expereience so why not Hire them.  Last I heard of this deal there is a screaning process.  But seriously I don't see this as a slap in the face at all unless you have a viable alternative.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 04, 2005, 07:56:56 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I read the report and hardly see how this is a slap.  Soldiers and Marines serve in the US military every day that arent loyal to George Bush.  Most of Sadam's army Surrendered in 92 because they didn't feel they should have invaded Kuwait.  Either way these ARE Iraqis and they do have military expereience so why not Hire them.  Last I heard of this deal there is a screaning process.  But seriously I don't see this as a slap in the face at all unless you have a viable alternative.


If it was up to me I would bring everyone home and let Iraq rot!

Kinda would be like using Nazi's in the alied chain of command.
And dont think for a minute that these clowns were not shooting at our troops in gulf war 2.

The whole place is a toilet and we need to get out NOW.
Just my opinion.
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Post by: Hangtime on November 04, 2005, 08:47:31 PM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle

Kinda would be like using Nazi's in the alied chain of command.


Like in our space program and intelligence networks? Like put in charge of German infrastructure, politics and rebuilding post war? As in Austrian Chancellor, or German Police Force?

Welcome to reality.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 04, 2005, 09:39:51 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Like in our space program and intelligence networks? Like put in charge of German infrastructure, politics and rebuilding post war? As in Austrian Chancellor, or German Police Force?

Welcome to reality.


Yeah yeah I know without the Nazi scientist we would have never went to the moon.
ih facy one was in the control room during the mission forgot his name

Von Braun or something like that very samrt fellow.
I just think it stupid to re install the very people you were trying to kill.
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Post by: Seraphim on November 04, 2005, 09:47:37 PM
So......I guess that means noone's seen it yet.....
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Post by: Maverick on November 04, 2005, 09:48:10 PM
fartwinkle, fortunately you aren't in charge. If you are in fact a student of history I can suggest an area that you can actually research to confirm the validity of the practice you take such delight in deriding. It has been used in more than one part of the world, successfully.

Best examples, both Germany and Japan. Patton caught major flack for using functionaries from nazi Germany post war.
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Post by: RTSigma on November 04, 2005, 09:57:43 PM
Just got back...and heres what I gotta say about critics from newspapers: If it ain't a French Sundance film starring a female lead struggling in new york with her abusive boyfriend and finds love with a quirky guy who works in a toy shop, then it isn't getting 5 stars.

The movie was probably the best I have seen in any theater. It shows life as a Marine, and life as a person in the Marines. There are many on the edge of your seat moments, and plenty of innuendo and jokes.

Near the end it almost got me crying, and for that I am glad to say that it got that far. You develop feelings for the soldiers and for those who were too young to witness GW1, then this is a great movie for that experience. I remember in the 1st grade watching it all unfold and it brought back memories of my friend's sister heading out there.

It brings up a lot of questions of life, how you live it, and what you do after "The Suck".



Screw them critics. Screw some fat guy eating a tub of popcorn and saying what is great and what isn't. Finally a film that isn't afraid to be gritty and savage and yet deep and caring in the same token.


Go see Jarhead and tell me that you don't come out of that theater thinking different of your life and the our brave soldiers.
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Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2005, 12:56:38 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
If it was up to me I would bring everyone home and let Iraq rot!

Kinda would be like using Nazi's in the alied chain of command.
And dont think for a minute that these clowns were not shooting at our troops in gulf war 2.

The whole place is a toilet and we need to get out NOW.
Just my opinion.


Obviously you are not in charge, and have no clue in how foreign affairs should or could be handled.  Instead you spout out the standard anti-war rectoric like you know what is going from behind a shades account.

Go back to being banned....
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Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2005, 01:00:12 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Yeah yeah I know without the Nazi scientist we would have never went to the moon.


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Post by: Pongo on November 05, 2005, 01:17:29 AM
"Werner" was a nazi for being in the "nazi" party and for using slave labour to build his pet rockets.

But re integrating the former Iraqi army into the new one is just a good idea. Who the hell would argue against it? If you dont know of a reason why a former officer shouldnt serve then he should serve.
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Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2005, 08:32:30 AM
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Originally posted by Pongo
"Werner" was a nazi for being in the "nazi" party and for using slave labour to build his pet rockets.


That is bs.  He was in the party because it was required by people in his position to prove their "unrelenting loyalty" and his labour was far from the "slave" labor as you call it.  Most, of his labor was state provided and hardly a "choice" of him.
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Post by: lazs2 on November 05, 2005, 08:48:11 AM
please tell me the movie doesn't have a rap soundtrack.

lazs
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 09:44:14 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Patton caught major flack for using functionaries from nazi Germany post war.


Patton also wanted to keep going and take russia out to.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 09:46:38 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 09:54:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Obviously you are not in charge, and have no clue in how foreign affairs should or could be handled.  Instead you spout out the standard anti-war rectoric like you know what is going from behind a shades account.

Go back to being banned....


Indeed I have no knowledge of foreign affairs and I care not to.
My only concern Is America could care less about Iraq N korea and so on.

Stay outta of the affairs and leave them alone unless they do something ignorant like point missles at us.

All this saber rattleling is I would bet coming from people who dont have kids over there.
And if you do lets see how understanding you will be when your kid comes home without his legs or dead.

I put a high price on life and do not believe it to be taken lightly.
I voted for Bushm only because Kerry was a bigger idiot than him.

You can spend billions and many thousands of lives over there but a democracy will never last as long as they are so devided buy souch strong views.

Sunni's sheit's and kurds will never set down and work it out.
They would rather fight like the have been doing since Jesus was a baby.

Now chashing down Osama is another story completly Im all for that as he attacked us and must pay for it.

But I think we have down everything we can do in Iraq so time to save some of our kids lives and come home.
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Post by: BlueJ1 on November 05, 2005, 10:00:50 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle

All this saber rattleling is I would bet coming from people who dont have kids over there.
And if you do lets see how understanding you will be when your kid comes home without his legs or dead.
.


Sometime next year I will be in the area. I will be proud to serve my country no matter the location. They could send me to the North Pole for all I care. I will still do the best job I can with my head held high knowing that I am serving for the United States. Losing limbs or my life is a price I am willing to sacrifice soyou can stay on these boards and post your point of view.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 10:04:56 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
That is bs.  He was in the party because it was required by people in his position to prove their "unrelenting loyalty" and his labour was far from the "slave" labor as you call it.  Most, of his labor was state provided and hardly a "choice" of him.



LOL you got to be kidding me right?
Not slave labour LMAO just try to tell the jews who where forced to work inside mile long tunnels building V-2 rockets that they were not slaves.


And alot of nazi's calimed at there war crimes trials that they were forced into the nazi party just like all the cons in prison are innocent:cry
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Post by: Monk on November 05, 2005, 10:06:27 AM
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Originally posted by RTSigma

 I remember in the 1st grade watching it all unfold
Geez, I'm getting old.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 10:08:33 AM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Sometime next year I will be in the area. I will be proud to serve my country no matter the location. They could send me to the North Pole for all I care. I will still do the best job I can with my head held high knowing that I am serving for the United States. Losing limbs or my life is a price I am willing to sacrifice soyou can stay on these boards and post your point of view.



I done my time long before you where even born and have see more dead people than I care to remember thank you.

I any person who joins our military to protect our country.
But the rose colored glasses with become clear sone enough for you trust me.


And untill you have lost a limb you have no idea what its like and are speaking out your arse.
I have worked in rehab cnters with people who lost limbs.

It sucks big time for them.
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Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2005, 10:10:17 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
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Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2005, 10:11:05 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
I done my time long before you where even born and have see more dead people than I care to remember thank you.

I any person who joins our military to protect our country.
But the rose colored glasses with become clear sone enough for you trust me.


And untill you have lost a limb you have no idea what its like and are speaking out your arse.
I have worked in rehab cnters with people who lost limbs.

It sucks big time for them.


I call bullcaca.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 10:13:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Having civil conversations with stunninghunks who pursue their ghey desires of stirring the pot on the BBS with a shades account becuase they were too stupid to not get banned before is impossible, especially when they are just spouting out their butt with no logic behind what they say.


My logic is the love for all human life ! even yours.
And my stating my opinion about it is again our rights as Americans
paid for by our fathers and grandfathers.

And just becuase homophobic redknecks get all worked up any time someone wishes for the killing to stop is just proof that inbreading does not work.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 10:13:54 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I call bullcaca.



LOL I dont care:rolleyes:
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Post by: lasersailor184 on November 05, 2005, 10:16:14 AM
Lazs, I think it has a little bit of everything.


It even has our old bud Kanye right on the trailer.
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Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2005, 10:16:33 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL you got to be kidding me right?
Not slave labour LMAO just try to tell the jews who where forced to work inside mile long tunnels building V-2 rockets that they were not slaves.


And alot of nazi's calimed at there war crimes trials that they were forced into the nazi party just like all the cons in prison are innocent:cry


Learn to read and COMPREHEND before you reply.

I said he had little hand in who was working on what other than design.  I did not deny that slave labor was used.  I do deny that slave labor was used to do anything other than manual labor though and light skilleded tasks, as it was requiring highly skilled persons that could be TRUSTED to do the work of assembly.  That was state provided if you might care to look into it a bit more.  

If you also look deeper, you might realise that he also did not run the line production.  He designed and oversaw the rocketry programs of Germany.  Hitler dicteated what he desired.  Werner designed it.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 10:22:41 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Learn to read and COMPREHEND before you reply.

I said he had little hand in who was working on what other than design.  I did not deny that slave labor was used.  I do deny that slave labor was used to do anything other than manual labor though and light skilleded tasks, as it was requiring highly skilled persons that could be TRUSTED to do the work of assembly.  That was state provided if you might care to look into it a bit more.  

If you also look deeper, you might realise that he also did not run the line production.  He designed and oversaw the rocketry programs of Germany.  Hitler dicteated what he desired.  Werner designed it.


I am not debating that Werner was not a very smart fellow.
I am debating on weather its a good idea to trust ex sadam's military officers back into the military?

There is no way for them to prevent loyalist to sadum to sneak in
talk about a wolf in the hen house.

Heck they already have huge problems with even there police not being loyal and in some cases leading American troops into ambnushes.

And im fine with the Iraqi's doing as they see fit with there country.

Just as long as it does not endanger Americans any further than it already is.
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Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2005, 10:26:51 AM
You did debate VonBraun when you brought him up.
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Post by: john9001 on November 05, 2005, 10:29:02 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
I
Sunni's sheit's and kurds will never set down and work it out.
They would rather fight like the have been doing since Jesus was a baby.

 


islam had not yet been invented when jesus was a baby, i think it was about 700 AD when muhammed had his "vision".
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 10:44:41 AM
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Originally posted by john9001
islam had not yet been invented when jesus was a baby, i think it was about 700 AD when muhammed had his "vision".


Did not say anything about islam.
Was talking about the middle east in general.

It will never stop amazing me how we the smartest of the primates
just keep killing one another and over what?

Just think if the energy and money spent on killing was used to help cure sick people and educate our kids what we could do.

When I was younger I was about kill kill kill but as I get older and closer to my own death I started realising that human life is so much more valuable than we know.

Eevry time I hear about another soldiers death i cringe on the impact that that one death will create.

The emptyness of his family and friends the complete impossibility of what he might have become later in life.

The fact that if he has kids that he will never see them grow up and If he had not started his family how he will be denided to joy of holding his baby in his arms for the first time.

So dont missunderstand me I love America and all her people.
I just want them to not die for someone elses cause thats all.
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Post by: BisonCH on November 05, 2005, 11:30:51 AM
Reading the book now. Its a quick read.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 05, 2005, 12:10:21 PM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
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Ok seeing it wont let me edit this I will just say after giving it thought I feel my comment to you was in bad taste and was just a silly response to your
insults.

Therefore I will say it was childish and imature of me.
Sry
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Post by: Seraphim on November 05, 2005, 12:34:51 PM
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Originally posted by RTSigma
Just got back...and heres what I gotta say about critics from newspapers: If it ain't a French Sundance film starring a female lead struggling in new york with her abusive boyfriend and finds love with a quirky guy who works in a toy shop, then it isn't getting 5 stars.

The movie was probably the best I have seen in any theater. It shows life as a Marine, and life as a person in the Marines. There are many on the edge of your seat moments, and plenty of innuendo and jokes.

Near the end it almost got me crying, and for that I am glad to say that it got that far. You develop feelings for the soldiers and for those who were too young to witness GW1, then this is a great movie for that experience. I remember in the 1st grade watching it all unfold and it brought back memories of my friend's sister heading out there.

It brings up a lot of questions of life, how you live it, and what you do after "The Suck".



Screw them critics. Screw some fat guy eating a tub of popcorn and saying what is great and what isn't. Finally a film that isn't afraid to be gritty and savage and yet deep and caring in the same token.


Go see Jarhead and tell me that you don't come out of that theater thinking different of your life and the our brave soldiers.



Thanks Sigma, finally a post on topic. Hopefully will be able to catch it this weekend
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Post by: Torque on November 05, 2005, 12:48:01 PM
looks decent enough to go to the drive-in.
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Post by: Yeager on November 05, 2005, 02:47:03 PM
I hear do bombas and Im skeered.....
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Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on November 05, 2005, 10:28:29 PM
Saw it today.  Even if no critic will give it 5 Stars, I will.



*****  :)
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Post by: Wolfala on November 06, 2005, 02:08:42 AM
Saw it today - see the above post.
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Post by: AWMac on November 06, 2005, 02:38:52 AM
Fart  you Son are what we call in the Military a "Weak Sister".

Your Liberal pantys and the fact that  you are missing brain cells show that you a out of touch with reality.

For you to get close to anything called reality would at least be a remarkable stretch...but febble minds such as yours will nerver comprehend the obvious...face it yer a DipChit looking for a purpose in Life and have been robbed.

In yer eye, so you see where I coming from,

with Love,


Mac
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 06, 2005, 04:12:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
Fart  you Son are what we call in the Military a "Weak Sister".

Your Liberal pantys and the fact that  you are missing brain cells show that you a out of touch with reality.

For you to get close to anything called reality would at least be a remarkable stretch...but febble minds such as yours will nerver comprehend the obvious...face it yer a DipChit looking for a purpose in Life and have been robbed.

In yer eye, so you see where I coming from,

with Love,


Mac


I dont think you should consider the cub scouts military.

And your what we would call a goober smootcher.
If your such a war stud Im sure they can use another over in Iraq go ahead tough guy ship out.

And only an ignorant child would rattle on like yourself just becuase someone might hold a different opnion from you.

And as typical talk is cheap on the intradnet so i doubt that you are 1/10th
of what you think you are and even if that you are still on the minus end of the scale.

With pitty!
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Post by: LePaul on November 06, 2005, 05:42:10 PM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Indeed I have no knowledge of foreign affairs and I care not to.
My only concern Is America could care less about Iraq N korea and so on.

Stay outta of the affairs and leave them alone unless they do something ignorant like point missles at us.



At what point in your ego do you think you speak for all of America?

Those missiles are pointed at us.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 06, 2005, 05:51:01 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
At what point in your ego do you think you speak for all of America?

Those missiles are pointed at us.


Well it worked for a man much smarter than you and I.
JFK was on the right track.
Title: Jarhead
Post by: fartwinkle on November 06, 2005, 06:05:39 PM
If having the utmost respect for human life makes me a liberal well I guess I am then.
Though I did vote for Bush and have no regrets about doing so given the choices out there at the time.

I just find it hillarious that those who are screaming yeah war yeah!!
kill em all let god sort em out have  never been in combat or even seen a person die.

Every vet i have talked to said that only idiots cry for war real men cry for peace.

Just a bunch of imaginary tough guys thumping there hairless chest.
 Although I have never taken a life I know men who have wether they were police or military and trust me it was not easy on them at all.

One of the brightest men in the world today Mr Collin Powell even got so
fed up with the current policy he quit.
now this is man who has been in combat and seen blood spilled in war.

I think I will take his word over some folks on a BBS that have no clue on what they are talking about.

Just remember the prisons are full of punks who had no respect for a human life.

Sit back and think for a moment and see whats going on here.
I am being jumped on by a few people here just because I advocate peace over war.
Now really how stupid is that?

If you want war so much then by all means join up your uncle sam will put you to work.

Go on put your arse in a war and when you come back I will be glad to hear what you got to say then.
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Post by: moot on November 06, 2005, 06:39:17 PM
No offense but your posts make my eyes swim..
Go straight to the point rather than beat around the bush, and keep it straightforward: point followed by evidence.
If you imbibe with and write it around emotion it just becomes an uncorelated soup of arguments with no tail nor head.
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 06, 2005, 07:01:22 PM
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Originally posted by moot
No offense but your posts make my eyes swim..
Go straight to the point rather than beat around the bush, and keep it straightforward: point followed by evidence.
If you imbibe with and write it around emotion it just becomes an uncorelated soup of arguments with no tail nor head.



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"please do not feed the troll"
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Post by: john9001 on November 06, 2005, 07:03:21 PM
JFK and macnamera screwed up the bay of pigs invasion, that caused cuba to ask russia for the missiles. so much for "smart"

it was also JFK that hired macnamera and it was mac and his wiz kids that messed up the vietnam war for so many years.

when powell took the job of sec of state he said he would only work for four years.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 06, 2005, 08:50:22 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
JFK and macnamera screwed up the bay of pigs invasion, that caused cuba to ask russia for the missiles. so much for "smart"

it was also JFK that hired macnamera and it was mac and his wiz kids that messed up the vietnam war for so many years.

when powell took the job of sec of state he said he would only work for four years.


Nice to have a washington insider to help clear things up here.
Thx.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 06, 2005, 08:54:02 PM
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Originally posted by moot
No offense but your posts make my eyes swim..
Go straight to the point rather than beat around the bush, and keep it straightforward: point followed by evidence.
If you imbibe with and write it around emotion it just becomes an uncorelated soup of arguments with no tail nor head.


Missed one of the three R's did we?
How much clearer could I have made it.
I am against young americans being killed in a country that would not wipe there arses with us.

I would much rather have seen the military used in the hunt for Osama.
I have no issues what so ever with killing the ones who attacked us.
Oh and yea sorry about being passionate about human life how dare me.

I will leave all the killing up to you armchair commando's.
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Post by: Wolfala on November 06, 2005, 08:55:24 PM
After reading these responses, I just suddenly have this incredible urge to eat a can of beans, find a pillow with Fart's head on it - assume the position over top and let 1 rip.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 06, 2005, 09:51:00 PM
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Originally posted by Wolfala
After reading these responses, I just suddenly have this incredible urge to eat a can of beans, find a pillow with Fart's head on it - assume the position over top and let 1 rip.


You want to bury you head in my pillow?
Ok bottoms up for you then.
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Post by: Wolfala on November 06, 2005, 10:01:31 PM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
You want to bury you head in my pillow?
Ok bottoms up for you then.



I know it is an unexpected thing to say to someone (even to a person I hardly know or quite understand, other than the fact you are wack and I'm tired and in pain), but I really want to love you down and give you a bay area bear-hug.


Actually, I take that back. I want to **** you raw dog in the bellybutton and press your quivering frame against my manly chest. I want to whisper sweet nothings in your ear and listen to you sob and cry about how my **** is so big and thorny....
then, and only then, would I snap your spinal column like a ****ing twig and dispose of your rag doll cadavre at the bottom of a river, pinned down by adequately sized weights and chains.
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 06, 2005, 10:09:32 PM
I honestly think this is a board first.
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Post by: FuBaR on November 06, 2005, 11:38:50 PM
excelent movie.
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Post by: SkyChimp on November 06, 2005, 11:56:04 PM
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Originally posted by FuBaR
excelent movie.



Was good but not that good. Thought it would be better.


You earned it! =)
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Post by: FuBaR on November 06, 2005, 11:59:45 PM
very well directed film, good acting and the right amount of drama. Not a gorey pos, a real movie.
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Post by: -tronski- on November 07, 2005, 01:04:16 AM
So apart from the Nazis, Werner Von Braun, JFK/Bay of Pigs, Saudi Arabia and Saddam re: Gulf War 2....I'm getting the feeling its a good movie?  

Because it looks pretty good..

 Tronsky
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Post by: AWMac on November 07, 2005, 10:17:54 AM
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
I dont think you should consider the cub scouts military.

And your what we would call a goober smootcher.
If your such a war stud Im sure they can use another over in Iraq go ahead tough guy ship out.

And only an ignorant child would rattle on like yourself just becuase someone might hold a different opnion from you.

And as typical talk is cheap on the intradnet so i doubt that you are 1/10th
of what you think you are and even if that you are still on the minus end of the scale.

With pitty!



Did my 20 Fart. US Army  '75-'95  and you?
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Post by: boxboy28 on November 07, 2005, 10:22:57 AM
i better get "IN" on this while i can after that excellet read above.


And Mr black gaping brown eye Farttwinkle.   Keep you opinions to your self, you have shown your ignorance in more ways than one.:huh
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 07, 2005, 10:43:53 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Did my 20 Fart. US Army  '75-'95  and you?


Army 1975-80
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 07, 2005, 10:44:52 AM
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Originally posted by boxboy28
i better get "IN" on this while i can after that excellet read above.


And Mr black gaping brown eye Farttwinkle.   Keep you opinions to your self, you have shown your ignorance in more ways than one.:huh


Come back when you are sober.
Making up imaginary friends now are you?
Geez get a life.
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Post by: fartwinkle on November 07, 2005, 10:48:15 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfala
I know it is an unexpected thing to say to someone (even to a person I hardly know or quite understand, other than the fact you are wack and I'm tired and in pain), but I really want to love you down and give you a bay area bear-hug.


Actually, I take that back. I want to **** you raw dog in the bellybutton and press your quivering frame against my manly chest. I want to whisper sweet nothings in your ear and listen to you sob and cry about how my **** is so big and thorny....
then, and only then, would I snap your spinal column like a ****ing twig and dispose of your rag doll cadavre at the bottom of a river, pinned down by adequately sized weights and chains.


See what masterbating can do to your mind.
See a Dr please.
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Post by: Eden on November 07, 2005, 12:06:32 PM
I see how this has gone from a Movie discussion to a battle over the legitimacy of the Wars in the Gulf to a general bashing of individuals and finally back to the movie.  Interesting.

Just wanted to offer my two cents to BlueJ1.

I salute your desire to make sacrifices and join the war effort.  It is a rare and honorable trait.  As we near the 11th of November I become reflective and want to offer some advice:

Always remember that you volunteered once by joining.  You do not have to volunteer any more than that.  Just wearing the uniform shows you are willing to stand up and defend liberty.  If you were meant to be in the war it will come and find you.  Do not seek it out.

Always remeber to keep you mind clear.  We have an advantage in that we are seekers of knowledge and truth.  Know your enemy, know his weakness and exlpoit them to your advantage.

Be a leader and a follower.  Offer advice when time allows but execute with all fierceness and determination when the order to "go" is given.  

You do not have to win the war yourself.  You are part of a team that stretches from your location all the back home and you need only do your part.  You are part of a team.

Make sure all personal affairs are in order including the paying of bills and sharing of information.  Make sure all loved ones know how to use e-mail and can check it daily (cell phones only work it the towers are standing).

If you seek glory and fame you will find a casket.  If this is what you seek move to Hollywood and become an actor.  Be a professional and remember that no medal is bulletproof.

The media is a joke and only depicts the images that bring ratings.  Many times soldiers are appreciated for their efforts without the camera rolling.  We are there to help and we are.

Remember,
No one ever won a war by dying for his country . You win the war by getting the slob on the other side to do it USMC NCO


Let us know how things are going.
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Post by: BlueJ1 on November 07, 2005, 01:44:43 PM
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Originally posted by Eden


Thankyou kindly sir.

About the movie. Im taking girlfriend to see it on thursday.
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Post by: beet1e on June 08, 2006, 03:06:17 AM
Movies released in America tend to be released here in Britain some months later, which is why my post comes some months after the previous one. ^ That might be changing, what with the availability of DVDs through eBay and the like, but whatever: I saw this movie last night on a rented DVD. I thought it was very good and would watch it again. :aok It was well directed with a good screenplay, and the pace was about right. One thing though: My ear is not attuned to some of the non-standard English used in military dialogue, especially when they're doing all that "Sir yes sir! Sir no sir!" shouting with the drill sergeant. I have never done military service, preferring instead a life in which I could set my own schedule and wear the clothes of my own choosing. In my dealings with other people, communication whether with someone on the phone or sitting a few feet away would be made in a normal spoken voice. I don't think all this military style shouting aids communication, and even has the opposite effect. Why shout at the top of one's lungs to convey a message to someone standing 2ft away?  Indeed, after the first 6 minutes of the movie, I decided to restart it from the beginning, with the subtitles turned on. I'm glad I did, because the first time round I missed Swofford's reply to the drill sergeant when asked  why he was there: "Sir, I got lost on the way to college, sir." :rofl

I was interested to note the disclaimer, shown in the prologue, that the opinions expressed during interviews shown in the movie did not necessarily represent the views or opinions of Universal Pictures International or its affiliates. Later on I could see why, with one young man saying that the war was about "defending the freedom of America". I don't think that's what Gulf War 1/Desert Storm was about. Oh wait, a big part of the mission was to secure the oil wells. Maybe he was right.
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Post by: bikekil on June 08, 2006, 03:17:24 AM
Seen it last week. Surprisingly good one and really different of what i extected (what makes it even better :) )