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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: moot on November 04, 2005, 04:06:09 PM
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(http://taenia.homestead.com/files/Holden1.jpg)
(http://taenia.homestead.com/files/Holden2.jpg)
(http://taenia.homestead.com/files/Holden3.jpg)
(http://taenia.homestead.com/files/Holden4.jpg)
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LMAO! I used to go to a branch college of Penn State. There was this big dick on campus that everyone loved. One weekend word got around that he got a new car. And mainly that he had it "Tricked Out."
So he shows up to class the next day in a Shiny Purple Ford Ranger that sounded like a standard ricer. He had the truck lowered to about an inch off the ground. He had awesome looking rims. He had a light kit at the bottom of his car. On and on the list went...
However, the previous week the administration had put in speed bumps to keep people from speeding around in the parking lots.
So I see him coming in and down the drive. It suddenly occurs to me what is about to happen. But he doesn't slow down. He doesn't stop, he doesn't turn around.
He keeps going at about 25 to this speed bump. I'm setting up a special part of my brain to forever remember the sound that will come from this.
Suddenly he slams on his brakes. He stops about a foot short of the bump. He does a 3 point turn and parks in the Administration lot.
I was so amazed that I got a tear to my eye. Just a single tear.
I said to myself, "Wow, Penn State. Even our Communications majors can add 2+2."
EDIT: Also, the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
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It's a neat looking car. Needs a pop-up spoiler though 'cause it's shaped like an airfoil and probably generates enough lift at high speed to lift off the ground.
The worst single-car wreck I've ever seen was a guy who was going for 200 mph in a 1995 camaro... GM specifically told the guy that above 150 he was on his own aerodynamically, and sure enough it lifted the rear wheels at about 160. He put a huge spoiler on the back and put a few hundred pounds of sand in the trunk, and that seemed to work. But at about 175-180 mph, the entire car lept about 30 ft off the ground and landed upside down at 160+.
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Eagl,
That sounds like problem solved to me. One Darwinn award to go, no fries.
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~Yoda voice on~
Seek you so flat roads? Urmm... Kansas must I say?
~Yoda voice off~
:huh
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How come that looks like the evil posessed car from futurama.........
Project S.A.T.A.N
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WOW!
now there is one sexy beast...reminds me a lot of this guy though:
(http://Http://clusterfunction.com/images/automobiles/chevy_fastbacks/fleetline.JPG])
which is a effin good thing really, though i dont like the stretched out fastback, or the auto...
got anything else on it?
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It's a GM Holden concept.
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/news?categoryID=5&articleID=1360&navCategoryId=all
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i think that is smurfy.
wouldnt wanna reverse park it either.
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Beautiful car...
steering wheel is on right side depends where your from lol
Bruv
~S~
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oh yeah, just saw that as normal... wonder why they made it RHD?
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I'd rather have a dropped chopped '53 Buick... for those with no taste!
Green/White....white covered wheels, cloth interior with the ropes on the back of the seats...
If you ain't been there, no need to reply.
Mac
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That is a gorgeous car.
Karaya
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I like 50's customs and I like art decco.. It appears that the car is an aussie one with wrong hand drive correct?
still nice tho.... frenched lights and grill, shaved hood and door/trunk handles.. chopped top..you could build that car from a 50 pontiac.
It could, and probly does have air bag suspension.. It can be low and still pump up when it needs to.
The mirrors are wrong.
I would love the car with vette suspension... A 502 inch big block or stroked and blown ls6 and a 6 speed.... but that's just me.
lazs
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Wondered about the mirrors too.
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Oh... the butted windsheild is another 50's custom touch... the cars back then had a two piece windsheild... with a bar in the center... the customs would take out the bar and butt the peices together..
Oh... the color is right out of a 50's issue of "Rod and Custom" it would have been described as "40 coats of hand rubbed burgandy laquer"
lazs
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Dimensions
· Length: 5162mm Width: 1999mm
· Height – drive setting: 1386mm Height – show setting: 1274mm
· Ground clearance - drive: 139mm Ground clearance - show: 27mm
· Track front: 1640mm Track rear: 1660mm
· Wheelbase: 2946mm
Powertrain
· Engine: GM 6.0-litre, LS2 aluminium V8 with Roots-type supercharger
· Bore and stroke: 101.6 mm x 92.0 mm
· Compression ratio: 10.9:1
· Power and torque: 480kW (645 bhp) @ 6400 rpm
· Torque: 775Nm (560 ft/lb) @ 4200 rpm
In the corner....
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You forgot Curb Weight 123421310983124 lb
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Originally posted by Furball
oh yeah, just saw that as normal... wonder why they made it RHD?
Holden is GM's brand in Australia and down here we drive on the left hand side (like all right thinking countries).
The car was built as a "hobby" project by design staff at Holden.
With regards to the ground clearance: anyone who has driven on Australian roads will tell you it would last about 2 seconds (i.e. the amount of time it would take to leave the driveway and hit the nearest big pot-hole).
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
You forgot Curb Weight 123421310983124 lb
Don't feel bad, the Japanese may produce something that cool someday...
No wait never mind, keep feeling bad!
:D
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It looks awesome. :)
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It could weigh about 3300 lbs with todays materials... it could corner like a vette. Nothing to stop it.
A friend had a 51 chevy hardtop with a 455 olds in it back in the day that looked a lot like that car. it weighed about 3400 lbs.
lazs
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It's a beauty, I love every inch of it, the inside is killer. I'm a sucker for "turbine" anyway:cool:
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Dig the pushbutton transmission... Totally retro.
As for ground clearance, as long as they're really tricking out the car, just give it an adjustable air suspension with various ride heights and the ability to lower it to the ground when parked.
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I don't see any euro influence at all... I see something out of the pages of a early 60's Rod & Custom magazine. we called em lead sleds...
lazs
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The interior is too modern/luxurious. That TV-screen-looking-thing is all wrong. Bench seats are preferable. Despite such issues, it's vastly superior to most concept vehicles.
J_A_B
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I think the TV screen is hinged so that it can fold into the dashboard if you don't want to see it.
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Bench seats? I'd swap it out for something ergonomic and comfy asap.
The seatbelt attachment straight from the parts bin sticks out though!
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"Bench seats? I'd swap it out for something ergonomic and comfy asap."
I like bench-style front seats because the small support advantage of bucket seats in cornering is more than outweighed by the fact that with the bench arrangement my wife can slide across. Bench seating also allows me generally more room to spread out and get comfortable on really long drives. I prefer GM's 60/40 split bench seats with a center console over Ford's 50/50 split; for all practical purposes the Ford design is essentially a bucket seat since few people can actually sit in the center position without subjecting themselves to undue discomfort. Bench seats also provide a signifigant advantage in situations when everyone has to get into/out of the car from the same side.
In a performance car I prefer the bucket seats. Extremely small cars often have bucket seats simply because they lack the space to fit any kind of center seating position and some "mid-size" (actually small) cars which have a bench seat really should use buckets. The Ford Taurus is an example of the latter type.
J_A_B
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Found pics of it being made.
http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-15-holden-efijy-concept/holden-efijy-concept.php
JAB, I was thinking of something like in TVRs rather than something too spartan.
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Laz, maybe that's the Euro influence? As far as I'm concern, 100% choped top mercury inspired:cool:
(http://www.ritzsite.net/Bugatti_T57/Bugatti_T57_SC_Atlantic_1937_r3q.jpg)
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Thanks for the additional link moot.
Seats aside, I'd consider it my second favorite Aussie "concept" car, my favorite being a modified '73 Ford Falcon XB GT which is of some notoriety. The Holden designers definately have the right idea.
J_A_B
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Sorry... don't see any porche influence at all... the deck and fenders are pure 50's-60's custom. The only way you could get a euro influence out of it is if you were to say that 50's American cars were euro influenced. This is a stretch because..
It was allways the 50's American cars that euros pointed at with so much disdain... it is really funny to see an early American lead sled custom being tounted as tres chicke by the effite euros who badmouthed such cars for decades.... and..... now claiming influence! it is really too much.
lazs
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If you look at pre-war Talbot-Lago T150 or Alfa 6C / 8C you'll find lots of custom tricks which were "re-invented" in US amongst custom builders.
Looks like that Holden is a mix of everything but made with pretty good taste.
Reminds me of that Russian Volga M21 (http://www.gaz21volga.com/Custom/alevelv12/alevelv12.htm) which in it's new shape is looking just like a bit customed Facel Vega...
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sheesh... look at all the boat tail speedsters from the 20's and 30's.. look at the chrysler airflow and studebakers... hell... look at the chevy fleetliners..
I am sure that all cars have something in common but to say that the car in question is anything but a pure retro early American lead sled is ludicrous.
I just think that it is funny that the effite euros that turned up their noses at the customs of the American scene are now claiming parentage. Barris and winfield and co. will be laughing in their graves.
lazs
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take a quick look.. euro boys..
http://www.carnut.com/photo/sled/sled.html
lazs
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(http://www.carbodydesign.com/concept-cars/2005/10-15-holden-efijy-concept/1953%20Holden%20FJ%20Publicity-mid.jpg)
1953 Holden FJ
“Invariably, people smile when they see it for the first time. EFIJY is our accolade to the talented designers who cut loose with some fantastically flamboyant styling in the post-war 1940s and 1950s.”
“Ask the question, ‘what would these people have created using all the skill sets and technology we have now’, and EFIJY might be the all-Australian answer to that question."
Ferlazzo
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53 holden... 52 chevy... bout the same car...
steinhoff... you would have to look at a lot of fleetline fastback Chevys and custom 51 mercs and other lead sleds to see it but that car is a direct copy of allmost every styling trick the customs builders here did during the 50's and 60's and of which there is a resergence today...
Even the idea of making wheelcovers that look like olds or caddy ones but fit 17,18 or bigger wheels is being done by custom guys here right now... Jay leno's car is a good example. Sorry but... the porches they sent here never looked anything like the rear of that car.. fenders with reverse curve and chrome rock guards? 50's era vette tailights and... How can you say there is no boat tail or studebaker influence?
As for the aussies... they have some of the most talented hot rodders around.. they do American better than some famous Americans. They may drive on the wrong side of the road but they can sure put a hot rod together.
lazs
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Did you know frenchies were first using "hemi's" and that was 40 years before Chrysler? :lol
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not sure but I believe the first American overhead valve motor was a "hemi" .. Hemi is in no way a new concept. It was old in the late 40's when chrysler put it in their cars in V8 form... problem was... it is and was a very heavy engine design...
lazs