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Title: Need good links
Post by: Nath-BDP on January 03, 2001, 12:34:00 PM
About U.S. Lend-Lease to other countries and vice versa--for a report.

Anyone?

thanks
Title: Need good links
Post by: funked on January 04, 2001, 12:27:00 AM
 http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/lendlse.html (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/lendlse.html)
Title: Need good links
Post by: Nash on January 04, 2001, 03:15:00 AM
An actual document - the 1941 US Lend Lease act:

"Be it enacted That this Act may be cited as "An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States."
 http://www.nelson.com/nelson/school/discovery/cantext/wwii/1941usle.htm (http://www.nelson.com/nelson/school/discovery/cantext/wwii/1941usle.htm)
Title: Need good links
Post by: Toad on January 04, 2001, 07:26:00 AM
vice-versa? Won't find much on that aspect, I think. Well, maybe the French to US during the American revolution.

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 http://www.wargamer.com/articles/lldocefx.asp (http://www.wargamer.com/articles/lldocefx.asp)  

That one is mostly about L-L to Russia, IIRC.
Title: Need good links
Post by: Sundog on January 04, 2001, 01:40:00 PM
The U.S. Did use Spitfires, Beaufighters, and Mosquitos. Granted, not in nearly the quantities of aircraft of we supplied to others, but we there was a little 'return'.

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Title: Need good links
Post by: RAM on January 05, 2001, 06:48:00 PM
not to forget a carrier they lent to the US Pacific fleet for some months in 1943 (HMS Victorious I think, but I'm not that sure)

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 01-05-2001).]
Title: Need good links
Post by: Toad on January 08, 2001, 11:37:00 PM
 http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/stephenville/lend-lease.html (http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/stephenville/lend-lease.html)

By the time the program ended in 1945, $50 billion in lend-lease aid was shipped to Britain, China, the USSR and other allies.

The British Commonwealth gave the U.S. "Reverse lend-lease" in September of 1942. $8 billion worth of services and goods were provided to U.S. forces that were overseas

 http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/usafserials.html (http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/usafserials.html)

Not all the aircraft which served with the US Army Air Force were issued USAAF serial numbers. The best-known examples are those aircraft acquired abroad by the US Army during the Second World War. In most cases, they operated under their foreign designations and serials. For example, the Spitfires acquired in the UK under "Reverse Lend-Lease" were operated under their British designations and their British serial numbers.

 http://www.nmm.ac.uk/faqs/rnv4.htm (http://www.nmm.ac.uk/faqs/rnv4.htm)

Why did the Royal Navy lend the United States an aircraft carrier during World War Two?

In late 1942, following the loss of USS Hornet and damage to USS Enterprise in the battle of Santa Cruz, the US Navy had only one fleet carrier, USS Saratoga, for service in the Pacific. In response to an American plea for carrier reinforcement, HMS Victorious was withdrawn from the Home Fleet and sent to the United States for a refit to suit her to the conditions of war in the Pacific: amongst other, more warlike, modifications, she was also fitted with an ice cream maker and Coca Cola machines.

By May 1943 she was ready to join USS Saratoga on operations in the Pacific, and, with the American carrier, provided cover to the fleet assembled for the invasion of New Georgia in the Solomon Islands.

For the purposes of security, signals generally referred to HMS Victorious as "USS Robin" while she was serving alongside the Americans, but she was fairly universally known to them as ‘the Limey flat top’.

By July 1943, the first of the new American "Essex" and "Independence" classes of aircraft carriers were entering service, and HMS Victorious returned to the war against Germany, although in 1945 she went back to the Pacific with the British Pacific Fleet for the final operations of the War.

HMS Victorious was finally broken up in 1969."


Just amazing what is out there, isn't it?
Title: Need good links
Post by: bloom25 on January 09, 2001, 07:20:00 PM
I might be mistaken, but weren't some 99 year leases on certain military bases what the US got in return?  

A little off-topic maybe, but still interesting:

An uncle of mine served in the Pacific during WWII.  He hated it when his ships was near a British task force.  He said those 14" guns on their battleships nearly made him deaf for life, they were much worse than our 16".  



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