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Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Ripsnort on November 10, 2005, 10:39:16 AM
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/5289996/detail.html

Pistol-Packing Grandmother Shoots Intruder

ARLINGTON, Texas -- A woman found evidence on her porch that someone might have broken into her house when she let her dogs out for a walk early Wednesday morning. The woman's granddaughter also said she heard noises from inside the house.

Susan Gaylord Buxton, 66, retrieved her .38 caliber handgun and searched her house. She found a man hiding in a closet, covered by a coat.

The man, 22-year-old Christopher Lessner, lunged for the gun, and, police said, Buxton shot him once in the leg. She fired a second shot, which missed, according to police.

"She had let her dogs out to go to the bathroom and noticed there were muddy footprints leading into her house," said Doug Depoma, with the Arlington Police Department. The woman "searched her house and located him inside a closet near the front door."

Buxton, who was a license for the weapon, said she feared for her safety and that of her 28-year-old granddaughter.

"He was 6 feet tall," she said. "He could have done something horrible my granddaughter and me. That's exactly the reason you need to learn how to handle (a firearm) and keep it with you."

Arlington police attempted to pull over Lessner near Interstate 30 and Fielder Road in briefly after 11 p.m. Tuesday. Lessner drove the car to a dead-end road and fled into a nearby neighborhood.

Police began canvassing the neighborhood near the 1700 block of Northhaven Court on foot as well as by air.

At about 12:30 a.m. Wednesday, officers responded to a 911 call of a shooting at a residence. The homeowner told police she found someone hiding in her house and shot him in the leg.

Lessner ran from the woman's house and was found at about 3 a.m. a few houses away hiding underneath a patio deck, police said.

He was arrested and transported to an area hospital, where he is being treated for a gunshot wound.

Buxton was not injured in the incident.

Arlington police said Lessner is expected to be charged with unauthorized use of a motor vehicle, evading arrest, criminal mischief and criminal trespass. Buxton was not expected to face charges.


:rofl
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: lazs2 on November 10, 2005, 10:44:43 AM
that is inhumane!

why couldn't she just give him a good smack with a cricket paddle or hide under the bed like a good little socialist?

lazs
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: FiLtH on November 10, 2005, 10:48:12 AM
She needs more training...legshot?
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Sandman on November 10, 2005, 10:48:31 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
that is inhumane!

why couldn't she just give him a good smack with a cricket paddle or hide under the bed like a good little socialist?

lazs



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Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Makarov9 on November 10, 2005, 10:50:41 AM
Maybe she was going for the ephemeral artery and let his bellybutton bleed to death. Dang sorry she missed.
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Ripsnort on November 10, 2005, 10:55:11 AM
Lazs, you'd appreciate the comment on another forum where we have a large european contingency:

A poster from Elburg, Netherlands said this:
Over here you are not allowed to do anything to a burglar. You may not even touch him cause he could press charges against ya if u did.

In theory you just can stand still and watch the guy take all your stuff with him.
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Simaril on November 10, 2005, 11:07:40 AM
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Originally posted by Makarov9
Maybe she was going for the ephemeral artery and let his bellybutton bleed to death. Dang sorry she missed.


FYI   You will ALWAYS miss an emphemeral artery ---


http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/ephemeral



The femoral artery is bigger and bleeds more....

:lol

Sorry couldnt resisit
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: midnight Target on November 10, 2005, 11:12:39 AM
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The man, 22-year-old Christopher Lessner, lunged for the gun


hehe... sure he did.
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on November 10, 2005, 11:30:39 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
that is inhumane!

why couldn't she just give him a good smack with a cricket paddle or hide under the bed like a good little socialist?

lazs


Because she's from Texas?
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Curval on November 10, 2005, 11:46:13 AM
Yup...but don't mess with 14 year olds armed with guns at school as well:

Too bad there wasn't an armed private citizen around to gun down this kid (http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=4094654&nav=3HvE)

This is the most recent one...but there's lots more.

:aok
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Maverick on November 10, 2005, 11:50:32 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
hehe... sure he did.


I'm sure you would have felt sorry for his depressed economic status and loaded all of your belongings into your vehicle and given him the key so he could enjoy the fruits of prosperity intead of being the downtroden poverty striken thief / potential rapist / potential murderer he actually is. :rolleyes:  :huh

































:p

Remember just because it's YOUR house he has just broken into while it was occupied doesn't mean he's a bad person.........
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: GtoRA2 on November 10, 2005, 12:03:39 PM
I wonder if beater, er beatle will stop into this thread.


I suppose for him it would have been better for the granny to get murdered or raped or both.


Makes sense with his history with women though.
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: indy007 on November 10, 2005, 12:23:01 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Yup...but don't mess with 14 year olds armed with guns at school as well:

Too bad there wasn't an armed private citizen around to gun down this kid (http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=4094654&nav=3HvE)

This is the most recent one...but there's lots more.

:aok


hooray for gun free zones? :furious
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Charon on November 10, 2005, 01:41:48 PM
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Yup...but don't mess with 14 year olds armed with guns at school as well:


Don't mess with 16-18 year old high school kids DUI. 12 or more die each day in auto accidents, far more than are killed in any kind of gun incident if you discount gangbangers of that age using illegally attained guns to gain market share in the sale of illegal drugs (which are fully illegal in all 50 states but enter the country by the ton). Of course, we should ban alcohol again to keep us all safe from the percentage who can't handle it or use it illegally. BTW, I don't personally know anyone who was killed by a gun, but I do know 3 friends who died alcohol related deaths.

Charon
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Eden on November 10, 2005, 01:45:10 PM
Now lets not get crazy,

I need alcohol to help steady my shot.
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Charon on November 10, 2005, 01:53:08 PM
Then there this is this guy, who found his rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness threatened in a way you would probably have to be 83 and living alone in fear to understand….

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Man, 83, discusses shooting at home

By PATRICIA MEADE

VINDICATOR CRIME REPORTER

YOUNGSTOWN — Walter Swita used a German Luger 9 mm pistol he brought home from World War II to shoot an intruder he suspects robbed him a few weeks ago.

The intruder, Benjamin Brooks, 44, of East Philadelphia Avenue, died Sunday at St. Elizabeth Health Center. Swita shot him in the head and chest around 10:30 p.m. Friday.

Brooks, whose record included robbery and breaking and entering, lived around the corner from Swita.

"Watch out for the blood on the rug," Swita, 83, said as he welcomed a reporter into the living room of his South Avenue home Monday. "That's his blood. I hit my head on the TV stand when we fell."

The elderly man's 80-year-old two-story house is in the middle of a commercial district that features bars, eateries and other businesses. As a safety precaution, he's considering cutting back or removing a large bush that obscures his front porch.

"I think he's the one who attacked me about six weeks ago in the back yard," Swita said of Brooks. "He smashed me hard in the face and when I fell down he looked through my wallet and took $60."

Changed a few habits

Swita said he started carrying his German Luger after the attack, not sure whether the vintage pistol would even fire. He said he served in General George Patton's 3rd Army but didn't shoot at anyone. He repaired tanks and Jeeps.

After the first robbery, Swita, who lives alone, began parking across the street when he returned home, not in his rear yard driveway. He'd hide the pistol against his leg until he was safe inside.

Swita said that on Friday night, a man he'd seen hurrying up East Philadelphia grabbed him around the neck as he reached the porch and unlocked the door. The elderly man said he fired two shots at the intruder and they fell to the floor.

His account

Swita, "shaking like a leaf," said he sat down to call 911 to report the shooting. The call taker asked if the man who'd been shot was breathing. Swita said he told her he didn't care.

He assumed the intruder would die because of the shot to the head. He doesn't expect to be charged with any crime, reasoning that he just defended himself in his own home.

"Was I scared? You bet, both times, whoof!" Swita said, exhaling as he recalled the frightening encounters. "You don't know what they'll do to you. A witness said there were two [other] guys waiting on the sidewalk and they ran when they heard the shots."

Swita figures Brooks would have let the two men in to ransack the house.

Swita said he never married and retired in 1984 from the William Pollock Company as a lay-out man for steel ladles. He dotes on a sister who lives in Poland, takes her to play bingo every evening.

The night Brooks was shot, Swita was returning from his sister's.

A lot of people have told Swita that he should move but he says he's got 80 years of junk in the house and will likely stay. He wants his Luger back from the police, though, for protection.

"Plus, it's probably worth $1,500."
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Charon on November 10, 2005, 02:02:18 PM
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Now lets not get crazy,

I need alcohol to help steady my shot.


LOL. I still tilt more than a few myself, though thankfully not enough to drink myself to death like two of those friends. Just pointing out that there is a direct parallel in numbers between alcohol and gun deaths in the country, a significant disparity in favor of firearms when you exclude criminal turf wars where Illegal guns would be easy to get even under a full gun ban -- easier even than the fairly detectable fully banned drugs. A gun that isn't fired is just steel, wood and maybe plastic, and how successful would a "steel sniffing dog" be finding a gun on a semi trailer :) It's hypocritical just to ban those things you don't enjoy for the common good while protecting those you do when they have the same impact on society. That's not even counting the good firearms can do, and the bad alcohol abuse can do short of causing a death.
 
Charon
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 10, 2005, 02:08:35 PM
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Swita, "shaking like a leaf," said he sat down to call 911 to report the shooting. The call taker asked if the man who'd been shot was breathing. Swita said he told her he didn't care.
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Best answer I could think of.  :rofl
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: Eden on November 10, 2005, 02:19:40 PM
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Originally posted by Charon
LOL. I still tilt more than a few myself, though thankfully not enough to drink myself to death like two of those friends. Just pointing out that there is a direct parallel in numbers between alcohol and gun deaths in the country, a significant disparity in favor of firearms when you exclude criminal turf wars where Illegal guns would be easy to get even under a full gun ban -- easier even than the fairly detectable fully banned drugs. A gun that isn't fired is just steel, wood and maybe plastic, and how successful would a "steel sniffing dog" be finding a gun on a semi trailer :) It's hypocritical just to ban those things you don't enjoy for the common good while protecting those you do when they have the same impact on society. That's not even counting the good firearms can do, and the bad alcohol abuse can do short of causing a death.
 
Charon


Sorry to hear about your friends.  Anything in excess can be bad (try and drive on the NJ Parkway during rush hour to see the dangers or excess speed and tecnological distractions).  It is the ability to act as adults and recognize civic responsibility that seems to be missing.  All things can be brought to ill use if one has a mind for it.
Title: Don't mess with Granny!
Post by: rpm on November 10, 2005, 07:09:08 PM
I listened to the 911 call several times today on the Russ Martin Show. The 911 operator was more concerned with the intruder than the other people in the house. She even told them to stop shooting him (after the 2nd shot).
It was only after he escaped that she started asking about the family.

The best part was when Granny threatened to shoot him in the "G.D. balls" then fired.