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Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: 1K3 on November 11, 2005, 12:48:40 PM
I heard B-17s are next for restoration and they might add B-17F for ToD 1943 8th AF  vs  LW.

How about this for 2.07?  overhaul some FW-190 lineup

for example, add FW-190A-4 (1942-43 era), replace 190A-5 with 190A-6 (1943-44), and put BMW 801 TS engine on 190A-8/F-8 (middle-late 1944 to 1945) for better low alt performance against Spit XVI, La-7, typhoon and P-51. The 190D-9 is fine and Ta-152 should be converted to AH2 standards.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Guppy35 on November 11, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
Didn't they already redo the 190s?  Can't imagine they'd redo them again with other birds still not up to AH2 standards.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: 1K3 on November 11, 2005, 05:01:19 PM
nevermind about the 190A-6

the A5 we have is a *Frankenstein*, just like the Spit 9 and 109G-10. im hoping the early 190As will be fixed to real 190A-5... or change it to A-4.  In r/l 190A-5 is a dog and i think 190A-4 should should fill the void for mid-war 190s

always remember this  *Our AH FW-190A5 is based on FW-190G series aircraft that the allies attempted to convert back to Antons*
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: straffo on November 11, 2005, 05:17:55 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
always remember this  *Our AH FW-190A5 is based on FW-190G series aircraft that the allies attempted to convert back to Antons*


Pyro's words ?
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: justin_g on November 11, 2005, 05:43:17 PM
The AH performance curves are the same as the USN curves for the aforementioned aircraft.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: RAIDER14 on November 11, 2005, 06:14:05 PM
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I heard B-17s are next for restoration and they might add B-17F for ToD 1943 8th AF vs LW.


new B17 gonna be added in next version?:huh :confused: :O

when is next version coming out?:confused:
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Furball on November 11, 2005, 06:22:10 PM
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
when is next version coming out?:confused:


2 weeks.

omg that was so easy, i almost feel guilty
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: cav58d on November 11, 2005, 06:25:15 PM
Personally the next aircraft updates I would like to see would be the F4U Family.....If HTC follows the trend of updating a type aircraft with multiple airframes than the Hogs should be next

We have the F4u-1, F4u1D, F4u1C and finally th F4u-4

Id love to maybe throw in an F6F while your at it
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Karnak on November 11, 2005, 06:39:30 PM
Hmm, I think the "trend" is aircraft that will see use in ToD, not multi-airframe kites.

B-17 is next, after that who knows.

F4Us do need it badly though, as do the La-5FN, La-7 and N1K2-J.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: gnubee on November 11, 2005, 10:56:24 PM
I have to agree with Cav... The blue birds could use some TLC.  The F6 and the F4U's cockpits almost look the same as they did in WarBirds 2.77 :lol

Not only that, but they also happen to get quite a bit of use so you know their update would be greatly appreciated.  :aok

Having said that, I know that their update will probably have to wait until 2.08 (or beyond?).  

So for the next update, I'm guessing we see the B-17, and maybe a B-24D(?) But I'd also wouldn't mind seeing a 190A-4, and maybe a P-40M or N :D

And last but not least... how about a P-39?  And forget the hanger queen arguments guys... It's well know that under 10K the P-39 was quite the machine, and since most of the fights we get in occure occure around 5K or below, I'm guessing she'll hold her own.  Besides, It will give us another option for VVS birds, and also saw extensive use in the Pacific...sounds pretty win win to me.

PS... please don't flame me... I'm sensitive :cry :lol
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Kweassa on November 12, 2005, 01:49:39 AM
1K3, I'd agree with your general premises on the Fw190s..

 ..but IMO enough is enough. Too many posts about the same issue from one person, doesn't look all too good.

 Like others have said, it looks the 190s are finished for the moment. The ToD will be starting off from 1943, and the planes they need, are already there. They've still got 50+ planes left to bring upto AH standards, and that's a lot of work.

 So, let's try to keep the 190 request in just one thread, instead of making up more and more of the same thing.. My 2 cents.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Tilt on November 12, 2005, 08:46:21 AM
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Originally posted by gnubee

Not only that, but they also happen to get quite a bit of use so you know their update would be greatly appreciated.  :


I like the idea of the most popular ac getting the upgrade priority!!

which one is it?:rofl
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: gnubee on November 12, 2005, 11:56:26 AM
Heheh...well, if we're going only on popularity I would imagine we'll see a remodled La-7 in about "two weeks"  :lol
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Wmaker on November 12, 2005, 12:27:23 PM
Me-410
Pe-2
Earlier Yak (9, 9D, 9M all well and good)
Ki-44

These planes would do a a lot for AH I think...
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 12, 2005, 12:37:37 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
Personally the next aircraft updates I would like to see would be the F4U Family.....If HTC follows the trend of updating a type aircraft with multiple airframes than the Hogs should be next

We have the F4u-1, F4u1D, F4u1C and finally th F4u-4

Id love to maybe throw in an F6F while your at it


Agreed, and add a new variant of the F6F  make it a F6f-3 :D
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Crumpp on November 12, 2005, 09:06:50 PM
Pyro has said about 2 years ago that the FW-190 FM was going to be upgraded.  The last upgrades were in graphics only.  

It is one of the oldest FM's in AH.

Currently Ace's High has the FW-190 gaining almost as much weight between the AH FW-190A5 and the AH FW-190A8 as the actual series did from the FW-190A0 to FW190A9.

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The AH performance curves are the same as the USN curves for the aforementioned aircraft.


No they are based off of EB-104 test flown at Wright Patterson during the war.

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*Our AH FW-190A5 is based on FW-190G series aircraft that the allies attempted to convert back to Antons*


Holds true.

All the best,

Crumpp
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Tilt on November 13, 2005, 10:07:00 AM
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Originally posted by gnubee
Heheh...well, if we're going only on popularity I would imagine we'll see a remodled La-7 in about "two weeks"  :lol



I wish.....
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Karnak on November 13, 2005, 02:17:44 PM
I'd love to see the Fw190s get their flight models updated and a representative spread of models at the same time as the B-17 gets redone.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Soulyss on November 13, 2005, 09:14:28 PM
I would expect to see more A/C being brought up to AH2 standards in the next version, with the trend towards the first cycle of TOD.  I would expect the B17's to be looked at as well as the P47's.  Also the other planes in the RAF stable (depending on the scope of the first ToD) I wouldn't be surprised to see the Typhoon and Mossie high on the list of update candidates.  Just my guess though.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Karnak on November 13, 2005, 09:29:09 PM
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Originally posted by Soulyss
I would expect the B17's to be looked at as well as the P47's.

Why P-47s?  They were just updated.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Krusty on November 13, 2005, 10:04:10 PM
Ya know what, though? Pyro's said that if/when they update the 190s a lotta folks are going to be upset, because I take it they're overmodeled as it is. He said something along those lines in one of the many Fw190 threads.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Crumpp on November 13, 2005, 10:28:17 PM
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He said something along those lines in one of the many Fw190 threads.


Wow,

I can't see that if they use good flight tested data.  The aircrafts strengths are tied to the design.  It was one of the premier dogfighters of WWII.

Of course, right now in AH, the Luftwaffe's best fighter is the Bf-110!  Guys get more kills dogfighting it in the CT than the 109 or 190.

The FM we have now is the result of using deeply flawed wartime allied testing data.  Not surprising as there were not many Focke Wulf factory trained mechanics or experienced Luftwaffe pilots rushing over to show the allies how to fly or maintain the design.

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they're overmodeled as it is.


I don't see that as neither variant AH models reaches any of Focke Wulfs data on the design for level speed.

All the best,

Crumpp
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: Soulyss on November 13, 2005, 10:45:13 PM
Were they?

I was under the impression that they hadn't had the cockpits redone.  But I don't really fly them much so I could very well be mistaken.
Title: New planes for 2.07
Post by: EagleEyes on November 13, 2005, 11:12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Soulyss
Were they?

I was under the impression that they hadn't had the cockpits redone.  But I don't really fly them much so I could very well be mistaken.




The 190s were the fist ones to get redone along with the P-47s.  I agree with most of you guys.  I think the B-17 will be redone, but i also think the JU88, 87, B-26, Lanc, Boston will be redone.  And the B-25, and some other bombers will be added.  Just my 2 cents!


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