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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AKFokerFoder+ on November 14, 2005, 04:20:35 PM
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This could be an epiphany for some, but:
The MA is an Arcade, First Person Shooter, Game Server. It is not a damn historical CT with all plane sets. Three sides, all with the same planesets and gv’s. It all makes for the possibility of a really fun gaming experience.
So what if the 109F4 has gondolas in the MA? Some 109F4s did have gondolas. If the G6 had 30mms make it an option in the Main Arcade server. And anything that makes for a more diverse planeset in the MA, makes for a better gaming experience.
I would be willing to bet that a large percentage of us in the MA just want a fun gaming experience. I have no delusions that I am a “real WWII Ace” flying for some country. I know little of WWII air combat, but I bet it was just like other combat. You pee your pants, you get so scared you puke, and you do things to others that we were never created to do to others. I know that this is a game, I feel no G forces, I feel no fear, I am not cold, lonely, hungry, bone tired, and sent to fly on a mission that in all probability will end my life.
It’s a game were the only thing that gets hurt is my ego. And at times it is the most fun you can have sitting down. Well… maybe the second most fun you can have sitting down.
What happened to the 109 planeset did nothing for increasing the fun factor of the MA.
And the general treatment of the Axis aircraft just makes you wonder…
Did the German pilots do so well in their pathetic planes because they were uber pilots?
Or did the German pilots do so well because their planes were a lot better than they are modeled in this game?
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I can understand your point of view. It's not that different form my own on this matter. But let me suggest this: F4 vs G2, whats' the dif? Very little. In fact the G2 has a little bit more engine power. So take a G2 with gondies, and the slight boost in power will balance out the drag from the gondies, other than that it's pretty dang close to the F4, it's just 10 ENY less.
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And the general treatment of the Axis aircraft just makes you wonder…
ITS A CONSPIRACY ,damn BIAS american company . LOL
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Well, the way I think it should have been run is like this:
All planes should be modeled with most options. The options available are determined by the arena.
I.E. The 109F4's with gondolas. IN the MA, this option would be available.
But say in the CT or TOD a situation arises where they need to use F4's that didn't have gondolas. Just disable them.
Though I do believe the code is way to solid and built up to be modifying some of the core parts of the engine. Then again, I'm just shooting from the hip, I really don't know much about coding.
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I to have noticed that the 109's seem to have been neuterd, I know the 109F4 has the extra 20mms, I've got pictures of them but the G2 is a better option is your taking them.
But the K4 is horrable! In the old G10 I could turn fight about the same as a P-51D at mid-low speeds, now the K4 is ever worse, and it flies with a lighter weapons load then most people did in the G10 but with even less options. The G14 is more like the old G10 but it still turns like a tank...
The 109E and F seem pretty good, and I've read the 109s got pretty bad in turn rate over the years compaired to what they used to be, going from about 5500Ib in the E to around 7500Ib in the later G models and with no increase in wing area.
And it seems to be the othe way around with the spits! The early war models are now horrable, the Mk1 turns on a dime but everything else is horrrable (good for early war though), the Spit 5 was toned down (thank god!), it rolls well and still turns well but it's acceleration and energy holding ability has been cut down as well as it's cannon ammo. The Seafire I find to be perfecet, in fact it feels like a heavy spit9, but I downed 3 N1ks, a Ki-84 and a B5 yesterday, it wasn't easy (other then the B5) but I still feel it's well modeled. The Spit14 I don't mind because it's not in it's true form till 15-25K, the Spit16 is was gets me... It's like the old Spit5 with a better roll rate and even better speed! This thing is a total low alt Killer! Right up there with the tempest, the F4u4 and the La models.
I think the models look good, but only the ealier flight models seem to fit right, well, atleast to those people that don't care for "uber" plane, the rest either suck to much or are way too good! lol I like having an balanced plane set, but compaired to the Spit16 what is there? Maybe the Ki-84 but where the Ki fails the Spit16 is great, it can just dive away!
I guess I havn't much else to say on the subject so I guess I'll just end it here for now.
Edward
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I agree with Laser here. If the plane was capable of carrying a load out it should be listed as available for the MA. Once TOD is out you really won't be picking your load out anyway so the system would be able to give you whatever was historically accurate for the time/mission/theatre.
I understand the desire to be historically accurate but if some planes flew with a certain load out then technically it is historically accurate to have the ability to choose.
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The only way to increase the "fun factor" of the MA is closer AIRfields. The rest is just icing on the cake.
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closer airfield are horrable! Trust me! I play mostly H2H, in the smug8 map everything is so close if you get to 4k ack starts up from EVERYWHERE! It's horrable, then you end up with nothing but furballs. Mostly turns at the core, with spits just outside that and BnZer's just above all that with flak goin' like mad! lol
Edward
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Comparing H2H to the MA isn't necessarily a good comparison. They are extremely different animals.
While I agree this isn't a fully historically accurate arena, and I do like having a variety of loadouts, isn't it somewhat contradictory to say " This isn't a historically accurate arena, but I want X plane to have Y loadout because it had it in the war"?
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Originally posted by EdXCal
It's horrable, then you end up with nothing but furballs.
TOTALLY HORRIFIC! What was I thinking.... :eek:
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It is with some satisfaction that I note the whines of those who gleefully awaited the nerfing of the Spit V and Seafire, only to realize to their collective horror that the Spit VIII and Spit XVI fulfill the same rolls better while the 109s suffered relatively more from the changes.
Proceed please, brave virtual warriors!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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@Leviathn
Yeah its amusing to watch the "nerf everyone elses toys but dont dare to touch mine". Very amusing.
@Thread Topic.
What I would like to see is "perked options". Let it cost perk points to hang the gondolas on the F4. We do have the perk point system to limmit the usage of certain planes, why cant this system be used to limmit certain very uncommon loadouts?
One reason why is ofcourse the "coad" one but if its "coad able" then why not?
Tex
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I liked the old Spit5 and Seafire.
I used the Seafire a lot on attacks from CV's, but I think the F4u-1 gives you the option of taking some bombs, and it is a dirty little turn fighter.
And I always thought the Spits made good targets :)
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Comparing H2H to the MA isn't necessarily a good comparison. They are extremely different animals.
While I agree this isn't a fully historically accurate arena, and I do like having a variety of loadouts, isn't it somewhat contradictory to say " This isn't a historically accurate arena, but I want X plane to have Y loadout because it had it in the war"?
I don't consider it to be contradictory at all. I view the war as a qualifier for planes and weapons in the game. If it was in the war it can be in the game. The perk point system can be used to simulate the rarity that existed in the war.
Because this isn't a historically accurate arena we should not be limited to only the load-outs that were found on most planes of that type.
Saying that a load-out shouldn't be included because only 1/8, 1/5,1/4 or whatever fraction of the planes used that loadout doesn't make sense in the MA to me.
It is my understanding that planes are being re-done for TOD. In TOD I feel that historical accuracy should be extremely important. To that end weapon load-outs could be limited to historical accuracy. Pilots with better rank who invested in better ground crews might have the ability to choose a load-out that was not common if he prefered it.
As far as plane handling goes, the more accurate the better, in any arena.
I would like to see the K4 have the 20mm option as well as the gondalas.
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
@Leviathn
Yeah its amusing to watch the "nerf everyone elses toys but dont dare to touch mine". Very amusing.
@Thread Topic.
What I would like to see is "perked options". Let it cost perk points to hang the gondolas on the F4. We do have the perk point system to limmit the usage of certain planes, why cant this system be used to limmit certain very uncommon loadouts?
One reason why is ofcourse the "coad" one but if its "coad able" then why not?
Tex
First of all, I have not been on the BBS saying that HT should nerf any plane. I don't think the Spits are overmodeled, I just think the 190's and 109's are undermodeled.
As for the logic of perking an option on a 1942 era aircraft in the MA. Stop and rethink that one. Do we perk 190A8s if we put the 30mm gunset on it? How about perking the Pony D if you take the 6 gun option instead of the 4 gun set? Or perk the P47 if you take the 8 gun set instead of the 6 gun set?
If you ask me, if anything needs perking, it's the trees! :rofl
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i agree but for different reasons..i remember the days when adrenalin filled fight were the norm..i cant remember the last time i had one. i can list the typical whines but everyone knows them...hell draggin a guy 5k away to fight him doesnt even work anymore..think im just hangin on for TOD..hands are losing their grip........
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I just switched my furball plane from the 109f to the new spits, go with the flow ya know :)
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
I just switched my furball plane from the 109f to the new spits, go with the flow ya know :)
shamus
That is the pathway to madness Grasshopper, you need not walk it.
The therapists have really good drugs these days :rofl :rofl
Actually the new Spit16 is definately a great ride. :aok :aok
And I don't think it should be changed at all.
But landing kills in a Spit16 is like landing kills in a LA7. I mean, what if your mother was to see you?
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Can we just accept the fact that if every plane were to be retrofitted with every possible loadout that was EVER used in the war, we'd all be dead by the time HTC got finished, and there'd still be no ToD?
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Can we just accept the fact that if every plane were to be retrofitted with every possible loadout that was EVER used in the war, we'd all be dead by the time HTC got finished,
I don’t think this post was about wanting to tax HT with retrofitting every plane with every possible load out. The loadouts in question already existed, both in real life, and in AH2. The code is therefore already written.
Originally posted by hubsonfire
and there'd still be no ToD?
If you are waiting for TOD, you may have a bit of a wait ahead of you. And adding the gondolas back to the F4, and the 30mm spinners back to the G6, isn’t going to push TOD out for ever and ever. :)
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Oh yeah, can't wait to see how many axis players there will be in scenarios facing those new Spits. I have waited for FW190A8 and SpitIX match-up but that day will probably never come.
:aok
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Originally posted by Charge
Oh yeah, can't wait to see how many axis players there will be in scenarios facing those new Spits. I have waited for FW190A8 and SpitIX match-up but that day will probably never come.
:aok
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Oh boy! Just the thought of a big TOD senario with A8's against Spit16's gives me goose bumps from the excitement.
Gonna be hard to find enough guys who want to fly in the Spits though :(
All that overmodeling of the 109's and 190's may cause a inbalance of too many Axis pilots in TOD.
Maybe they'll perk the 190's to get guys to fly in Spits?
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Okay, how about this: If HT thought this was a good idea, you'd see the options in the hangar for them. If you don't, you can take that as meaning "no, this idea isn't a good one".
BTW, no, I'm not waiting for ToD so much as seeing it as the obstacle between our present planeset, and the completely remodelled and updated one I hope to have before I die.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Okay, how about this: If HT thought this was a good idea, you'd see the options in the hangar for them. If you don't, you can take that as meaning "no, this idea isn't a good one".
I don’t necessarily believe that you may have typed what you meant?
I think you meant something like this; “If you don't, you can take that as meaning [HT thinks] "no, this idea isn't a good one".
I am not in full agreement that everything HT thinks or does is a good idea. It is true that he is the defining god of the AH2 universe. But that doesn’t make him or his ideas perfect.
Originally posted by hubsonfire
BTW, no, I'm not waiting for ToD so much as seeing it as the obstacle between our present planeset, and the completely remodelled and updated one I hope to have before I die.
I agree completely, I think the TOD pie in the sky is pulling resources away from game enhancements. TOD will in all probability be a CT.
Imagine the scenario I pointed out above with 190s against Spit16’s? Maybe Doras’ would have a chance. I really think the Axis/Allied plane sets are too imbalanced to make for the type of competitive game play necessary to draw fuballing adrenalin junkies like me out of the Main Arcade server.
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What is ToD, I'm new.... HI :aok
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I think in a more realistic eviroment(ToD) the difference in performance(wether real or imagined) won't be so bad as everyone things. I hear a lot of concern about the spits outclassing the LW iron but I think a lot will come down to wingman tactics and SA, just like in real war.
For example, think of a furball. 90% of the time I die due to the guy I never saw. It could be a 190, a spit or a P51, when you lose your wingman and SA anything will get you. I feel that if ToD can present the big air battles of the past, like in a furball, plane preformance won't be as big as a factor as SA and teamwork.
Oh and I know, my speeeelling is bad in this one:D
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Originally posted by Jethro_Bodine
What is ToD, I'm new.... HI :aok
Tour of Duty information (http://www.hitechcreations.com/tod/about.html)
This is the official page on Tour of Duty
Originally posted by SuperDud
I think in a more realistic eviroment(ToD) the difference in performance(wether real or imagined) won't be so bad as everyone things. I hear a lot of concern about the spits outclassing the LW iron but I think a lot will come down to wingman tactics and SA, just like in real war.
For example, think of a furball. 90% of the time I die due to the guy I never saw. It could be a 190, a spit or a P51, when you lose your wingman and SA anything will get you. I feel that if ToD can present the big air battles of the past, like in a furball, plane preformance won't be as big as a factor as SA and teamwork [/QUOTE
Wing tactics are not everything in ACM, to paraphrase Vince Lombardi “They are the only thing.” How often do you see a real ‘Loose Deuce” in the MA? And I have honestly never seen a ‘Finger Four” or a “Valencia’s Mowing Machine” ever used in here.
I really wonder if you will see the kind of discipline it takes to fly wing tactics? I’ll bet you not a handful of sim pilots out of 100 know how to be a wingman, or how to fly with one.
Anyone who has the discipline to fly wing tactics will have a good K/D, but probably a low K/T. You have to ensure your wingman is safe before you engage; you have to break off your attack if you wingman looks as if he may be in a chance of being in jeopardy. No kill is worth losing your wingman over. And if you can't turn 180 degrees or less, and immediately start shooting the bogey off you wingmans' six, you aren't winging, you are just flying in the same area. That is ACM doctrine.
As for me, hell I just wanna furball, and getting shot down is part of the game, but it is not part of flying wing tactics.
I think there are more than a few like me, who really don't want to have to use real life discipline to play a game on-line. :)
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Thanks, looks interesting.
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I hear ya Foder, I have no real plans of doing ToD. But I just think of the countless times when I'm in the furball and get picked by someone. Doesn't matter what their flying, I just happen to be in the perfect spot for them to hit. I think ToD might be like this. Wether you are flying the spit or the LW, if you are in a large furball plane preformance isn't as strong of an issue. If it's only 5vs5 or so, then yeah CoAlt the spit has the advantage. But if HTC pulls off the massive IA drones, the fights should be of decent size and much more chaotic.
Also I'm not saying that there will be strict wingman tactics, but working with someone, even loosley, makes things easier in a fight. I can think of many instances where me and my squadies will jump up from a semi capped base and push the horde back. In large part I factor that to us sticking together in a the same area while the horde comes in small packs. I guess only time will tell if it'll work out or not. We'll just have to wait and see.
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The 109s do feel as if there under modeled, I took a test flight in the 109F4 the other day and it looks beautiful but does feel under modeled compaired to the old one... The G2 still fies wonderfuly! I'm very happy with that, but thats about it with the 109s.
Now the spits are different, I was one of those people saying they needed to cut down the spit performance, the Spit 5 and Seafire were "too" good for being an early war type. Basicly in there accelereation and ability to hold there E, which was way to good for being such a light plane. I like the new spit 5 and Seafire, I fly the seafire in it's new form alot now, even though it's not as good as it once was I like it better now. The Spit 8 isn't bad either, though I've noticed alot of compression problems with it over other spits but it flies wonderfuly! I've always been a huge fan of the Spit 9 and more so the spit 14 even at low alt for it's very high climb rate. But I am one of those people that beleave the spit 16 should be perked. It also seems a little to turnable, with clipped wings I heard speed and roll rate went up but climb and turn rate went down, I hear the stall buzzer all the time in it but I havn't actully put the thing into a full out stall! I'm one of those people that like balance... Even before the new update the spits had turn rate well the 109s had climb, after awhile it evened out to whom was the better pilot. I don't think there evenly matched for that anymore.
I am mostly a Ki-84 flier, alot of people don't like it because they also call it "uber", but it has it's weak points, mostly in speed!!! Even in that the only way I can beat a spit is in the vertical, and thats mostly with a spit on my 6 until I pull a hammerhead.
I guess my problem is mostly the fact that the game gets boring when all you see everytime you get close to a con is "spit 6K"... Why fly a ww2 flight sim? Why not just build a spit sim?
Edward
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Okay, FF, I'm not sure if it's the beer, or if one of us is misunderstanding the other slightly, but I'm almost entirely in agreement with you, except for, maybe, regarding the loadouts.
Assuming I'm understanding you, I meant that the lack means HT thinks it's a bad idea. I've flown the F4 with and without, and while I like the firepower for intercepting, you couldn't pay me enough perks to take them into a furball (well, maybe you could). I guess my attitude is "let's not trifle with the details so we can get ToD the **** outta the way". This may not be good, but at least you know.
As an aside, I'm not turned off by the idea of ToD: AoE and Janes WW2 fighters offline campaigns were what got me interested in aviation games; I'm just concerned about an RPG that's supposed to be historically accurate and relevant, while utilizing or revolving around the one aspect of the existing game that is the least historically accurate- bombers.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I'm just concerned about an RPG that's supposed to be historically accurate and relevant, while utilizing or revolving around the one aspect of the existing game that is the least historically accurate- bombers.
How do you see the bombers as least historically accurate in the game? I would agree that the way their used by certain pilots in the MA is not accurate but not the planes themselves. I was under the impression that those none-historicaly accurate uses would not be possible in TOD.
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Originally posted by 38ruk
ITS A CONSPIRACY ,damn BIAS american company . LOL
its true though. There was more 109g6's with 30mm than there was La7's with 3x20mm yet THAT LA7 is still there......:rolleyes:
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OVERLAG, very good point! I do like the La7, even more so then the 109G6's (worst 109 to me) but if you have an La7 with the 3x 20mm cannons we should be able to have the 109G6 with the 30mm cannon, then again, they have redone the 109s so far, not the La7s, so if you give it time they may.
ADD THE XP-40Q-2!!!!!!! WOOO!!!!! lol
Edward
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Originally posted by Overlag
its true though. There was more 109g6's with 30mm than there was La7's with 3x20mm yet THAT LA7 is still there......:rolleyes:
Perhaps when they redo the Lavochkin series, they'll take that into consideration.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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who here is truly admiting they need to go to TA because they don't think the 109s and 190s are still as uber as the P51? :o
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/film158_0000.ahf
start practicing or stop moaning, surely?
edit: only problem is old films with obsolete armament dont play in film viewer anymore.
RIP G6 films :(
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F this, im not going to post in the general discussion. EVER AGAIN:D
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Originally posted by Morpheus
F this, im not going to post in the general discussion. EVER AGAIN:D
Well, if you do ever come back, come back attacking someone :rofl
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shut up dedalot, i know your kind.
im really leaving this time.
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http://www.hitechcreations.com//forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164426
http://www.hitechcreations.com//forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164625
still at it eh ladies? glad to see only you two mooks are still trying so hard. you can all have a piece of me in the arena, if you have the skill.
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Yes, further evidence that you do not stick to your word.:)
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Originally posted by mechanic
http://www.hitechcreations.com//forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164426
http://www.hitechcreations.com//forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164625
still at it eh ladies? glad to see only you two mooks are still trying so hard. you can all have a piece of me in the arena, if you have the skill.
:p
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You know what's funny, is that we all are such critics of the aircraft. We talk like we've actually flown the real deal.
All us part time historians screaming we've got this document or image that proves we should have this particular version of our favorite ride in AH.
I find that I just enjoy taking what's available and not worrying about the rest.
I've also found that I still don't want the best ride or the ride that everyone else is in. I flew the clipped XVI cause I've loved clipped Spits for 25 years, but I got back in my old 38G again because all I was seeing was Spits, 109s and LAs. In the end it gets boring that way.
I want to fight and if I die, as so often happens, so be it. I can't outrun much of anything, I can turn fight reasonably well in the G but not for too long against the light weights, but it fits for what I enjoy.
I suppose I could scream for a 38F or H, or even an E but you know what? The G is just fine thanks. And I suppose if I looked hard enough I could find something 'wrong' with it and produce information to demand the change....but what do I know, I'm just having fun as is :)
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zOMG Dan!#@! Stop making sense !@#!#@#!:O
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obviously you still dont see how I was just playing with you the whole time jeff, when will you start living your life through your own achievements and not through other's shortcommings?
I'll post where and when i like, If i say one thing then change my mind that is also my perogative, and your interest in my actions is nothing but a compliment, still........
good post guppy :)
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LOL ROFLMFAO.
So it's....
"FU YOU ALL WILL NEVER POST HERE AGAIN EVER ONLY IN MY SQUAD FORUM WILL I POST!!!"
No not, I'm just kidding. HAHA jokes on you.
Batclown you're too much. I think you just got a bad batch of mushrooms.
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Gotta say...I'm loving Spits now!!!!!! why beat youself to death flying 109's?
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
Gotta say...I'm loving Spits now!!!!!! why beat youself to death flying 109's?
shamus
It sounds like it is to late for poor Shamus. And he was such a great guy :(
Oh sure, it just starts off with a Seafire on a CV attack now and then, and then the occasional Spit V for a base defense.
Next thing you know, you are into the "Hard Stuff" Spit 9's and a Perkie 14, and now creme de la creme' the Spit16.
Then you are hooked with little chance of recovery. :eek:
Only madness and darkness lie waiting for you down that path!
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hey you AK foker, seriously, if you ever want to go to the DA to mess around in some german steel we could both learn something im sure. I'm coming to grips with the 190a5 lately, its quite a monster. If only it had quad, or even twin hispanios.... :(
Infact I had some spectacular duels with TC and a pair of 190s in the da the other night, i wonder if he has film?
anyhow, believe me, apart from questionable guns, there is nothing from stopping a 190a5 outflying a spit5.
dont damn the plane, no reasonable fighter plane by itself is an easy kill with out it being made one by the pilot.
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Originally posted by mechanic
hey you AK foker, seriously, if you ever want to go to the DA to mess around in some german steel we could both learn something im sure. I'm coming to grips with the 190a5 lately, its quite a monster. If only it had quad, or even twin hispanios.... :(
Infact I had some spectacular duels with TC and a pair of 190s in the da the other night, i wonder if he has film?
anyhow, believe me, apart from questionable guns, there is nothing from stopping a 190a5 outflying a spit5.
dont damn the plane, no reasonable fighter plane by itself is an easy kill with out it being made one by the pilot.
Well, that does sound like fun, but can we wait until the Donut map is over?
I am having way to much fun in FT to think about much else.
I don't fly the A5 much, but I do fly the A8 a bit. I used to fly with the 4 20mm package, but now I like the 2 20mm, 2 30mm package. A real buff killing loadout.
I was in the G14 in FT a bit, not overly impressive, but still making kills in it.
I am falling in love with the German 30mm as a buff/fighter/gv killer. :aok :aok
Now if only the Hog F4u-1 had 30mms and it wasn't perked :)
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Originally posted by Shamus
Gotta say...I'm loving Spits now!!!!!! why beat youself to death flying 109's?
shamus
Seriously... I can't see out of the new G6/14 and K4 cockpits to shoot at all. Hopefully I'll get used to it, but right now it's beyond frustrating. I'm so close to just throwing in the towel on it though and flying spits, lol.
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
Well, that does sound like fun, but can we wait until the Donut map is over?
I am having way to much fun in FT to think about much else.
I don't fly the A5 much, but I do fly the A8 a bit. I used to fly with the 4 20mm package, but now I like the 2 20mm, 2 30mm package. A real buff killing loadout.
I was in the G14 in FT a bit, not overly impressive, but still making kills in it.
I am falling in love with the German 30mm as a buff/fighter/gv killer. :aok :aok
Now if only the Hog F4u-1 had 30mms and it wasn't perked :)
hehe, yeah id say the 30mm are the only ones i can hit with, but the brilliant german's realised there was no problem loading 2 20s and some peeshooters on these things too! i figure with the luft 20mm, convergence has to be either 400+ or >250. very long range for BnZ and close for turnfighting.
the 8 is a mean machine indeed, but i would urge ya to try the A5 primarily as a fighter with all the gun and as much fuel as you like. after you drain the small tanks she becomes as agile as a ponyD if not better. and with those guns compared to most other fighter loads you will have a great chance of controlling and closing a fight as fast as possible.
The A8 is like a heavy F4F compared i promise you.
I posted this before but here is a 2min feature movie, 'yak in the sun' and the .ahf file it was made from. if nothing else its fun to watch but they do rough demonstrate some of the FW190 A5's finer qualities.
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/YAK190.wmv
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/film158_0000.ahf
there are plenty of potential dueling partners that know alot about the German aircraft, and could possible help with the luftlove/hate thing, you can get rid of the hate. :D all ya gotta do is ask.
edit: I bet Stang could show you a thing or two about 109s :)