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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ArtLaw on November 14, 2005, 07:45:12 PM
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What is the best fighter to fly to lower fighter rank. Or what are the statogies to lower fighter rank. Should someone fly low ENY or hi ENY.
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Since K/D, K/S and K/Time are big factors, I would imagine that the better planes will give you a better score.
I am not sure how much hit percentage plays in, but that would in all probability be not a factor in chosing a uber ride or a high eny ride.
The high ENY rides give you lots of perk points, and I think probably more awards for "Points" (not sure what that means). But it would definately seem that 3 out of the 5 criterion favor the uber rides.
I would suggest a LA7 or maybe a Pony D. :)
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to be honest, dont think it is as much the plane, but more the way you fly it. since the 38G came out, ive been it majority of the time, this tour being the exception, and i typically rank in top 20 for fighter. This tour i started out with Ki84 as main ride, switched to the new 109s and spits since release and im still up there. so imo, hi or low eny does not matter.
my 2 useless pennies.:D
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Yeah, just fly to live and pick.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Yeah, just fly to live and pick.
Thats about the size of it.
Ranking in this game is all about manipulating the game and/or the kind of missions you run.
It has very little to do with how good you are
Want a high fighter rank. Always fly with the horde and do exactly as Superdud says. Fly to live and pick. Never get into a fight with even odds or where you dont have a clear superiour advantage. As soon as you even come close to loosing that advantage. Bug out and split.
Want a high overall rank. Fly a little of this, a little of that. Milkrun a few strat targets, Be the m3 that gets a few base captures and thats about it.
Its really not all that difficult as I proved to myself a few tours ago by trying but not even very hard I finished within the top 60 or so in overall rank.
Typically I have found the very best cream of the crop sklilled pilots rarely if ever even rank in the top 200 let alone the top 100 or 50.
So ranking is very misleading.
Take SHawk for example.
I'll not deny hes a good guy and a good stick. indeed he is. And he flys smart.
But he by far isnt the best in the game I've come across
Yea that high ranking looks good, gets your name in lights and all that good stuff.
But in reality other then that typically it means very little.
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Tempest. Yes, you can fly it conservatively, but what the Tempest does better than just about anything is kill quickly and allow one to move quickly to a fight and quickly back home again. That means a high K/D and, just as importantly, a high K/T as well without having to auger for a replane.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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dont have to just pick and bnz just make sure you have freinds around and that helps too :)
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Rank is a crutch for the weak.
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Tiffy or Temp.
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P 38J in the right hands is deadly, but as was said earlier... Rank doesnt mean much
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P-38s suck.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
P-38s suck.
Finally, only after a decade, do you realize this.
:p
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I agree with Fubs and levi on this one.
Typhoon and Tempest both have the capabilities of ending the fight quickly as well as having the top speed to bug out when you are outta ammo and rtb quickly.
Also, go where there is a target rich environment and stay on the outsides with altitude, not necessarily being the highest, but enough to dive for speed if you get too slow.
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Overall rank doesnt mean much.....You can be ranked top 50 (overall) by ubering GV's/bomber and attack and still have a fighter rank in the 800's.....And come on...Fighters is why we play right? Who cares about anything else...
You can get a good idea of a persons skill level by looking @ scores, in particular fighter......
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Originally posted by cav58d
You can get a good idea of a persons skill level by looking @ scores, in particular fighter......
I disagree, You can not nessacerally get any indication of how good a person is by any portion of there rank. for example you may go look at there hit %. Does a high hit % really say he is good at what he aims at? maybe and maybe not. Is he just vulching or picking or what. A low hit % tells you nothing either. Is that person in fighter mode straffing GV, Buildings, ack and the such. If so his hit% will drop like a rock since in fighter mode building hit and stuff are recorded as misses.
There are way to many variables to rank to determine if a person is good or not. If you have played the game for any length of time, people just know who are the elite video game players are. (hard to say there a good pilot when this is a game)
That's just my 2 cents on determining who is good or not by the stats. (ya can't really)
Rank and Stats... bottom line, means squat. Except like someone else pointed out....getting your name on the home page once a month and to be able to be the Supreme Commander of the CV's :D
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Flying for rank/score isn't as satisfying as it may seem at first. You'd be better off picking a plane you enjoy flying - something that fits your style rather than a scoring objective - and then find some people to fly with who you can count on. Do that and the ranking will improve on its own - and a lot faster than trying to run up a score on your own.
-DoK
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Originally posted by Stang
Finally, only after a decade, do you realize this.
:p
I realized it the first day I flew one but I've got to handicap myself or I'd be uber like one of 'em Unknighted fellows.
ack-ack
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Best plane to improove rank is Hurri Mk1. People told me that more than once.
(Only reason i keep flying it ;) )
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Flying for rank/score isn't as satisfying as it may seem at first. You'd be better off picking a plane you enjoy flying - something that fits your style rather than a scoring objective - and then find some people to fly with who you can count on. Do that and the ranking will improve on its own - and a lot faster than trying to run up a score on your own.
-DoK
I'd agree with that.
Also if you're a stats anorak choose one aspect of score & try to improve over time ie gunnery/bombing accuracy etc - that's about only use for scores/rank imho.
Regards :)
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What's rank? I mean besides SuperDud...
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Artlaw, I dont fly for rank as anyone can see by my scores,lol, but I have in past and I will say that the choice of th3 battle is probably the most important aspect. When you log on, look for a close battle to a friendly base. Ask on country what the cap of the battle tops out at and chose the ride for the situation. I found that planes with more guns did well in battles below 8K as you can usually cherry planes at top of loops, hence increasing hit percentage. p47's are great for this. 8 guns= 8 hits per round shot! If the battle is a little more hot, then fast planes like temp/tiff/dora/ponies work so you can climb better and run better. But by far the easiest way is to find cv battles near enemy bases and up seafires kill quick, don't get greedy, and land after 3-4 kills. Get in quick, kill quick, and retreat quick. If done correctly, the cv battle and seafire scenario can really rack up the needed points in the right catagories, (time, hit%, death's) The absolute best way to get fighter rank is fly a plane with big ammo loadout and find a base to vulch every sortie! hee heee :D :aok
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Originally posted by DipStick
What's rank? I mean besides SuperDud...
:(
Oh, and rank is very important. Surprise you guys didn't know that:eek:
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Originally posted by ArtLaw
What is the best fighter to fly to lower fighter rank. Or what are the statogies to lower fighter rank. Should someone fly low ENY or hi ENY.
I would say that it is not so important what you fly, more important how you fly.
I would like to list some of the "never do".
1. Never get into bad situations - never up from capped field, never dive into swarm of red dots, never attack acks or GVs on enemy field. If you see your country man on the deck chased by horde of reds never dive to help him. He is already dead, and you will be too soon. Fly alone and think about your score, not about how to help others or win the war. It was always the most difficult thing for me to do because my mom told me that I have to be good boy, help old women to cross the streets, share my candies with friend and same bs. I will give you one tip how achieve some progress in that. Make few sorties with BK! Usually, couple of sorties is more than enough for them to steal so many your kills that you will hate green color the whole next week.
2. Never attack bombers. It only seems that it is easy kill. May be it was before but there are too many nine-nine-nineties nowadays, and they are very deadly, especially in fall and early winter.
3. Never HO. This is very difficult to do but try. You know, there is possibility that you meet me in HO, and you have no chance to survive! HO is my favorite move, and I have a lot of adherents.
If you follow my instructions you will share the first lines of the score screen with the greatest pilots who learned these lessons a long ago.
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I wrote this awhile back for the Help Section for newer players but it applies to this discussion so I will repost it here.
Fighter Rank: Plane & Pilot Analysis
1) Kills per Death
2) Kills per Sortie
3) Kills per Time
4) Hit %
5) Points (Damage)
So, for each category there is an optimal aircraft flight characteristic that affects it, for example.
1) K/D-The single biggest plane attribute that effects this statistic is speed, that is the ability to engage and disengage at will from virtually every other plane in the plane-set.
2) K/S-There are three plane attributes that effect this statistic, ammoload, gun-type and fuel-load. The more ammunition and/or cannons equates to a better K/S along with flight endurance provided for by fuel load.
3) K/T-There are two few factors that effect this statistic. First, is climbrate/acceleration, the quicker you can get to combat altitude the quicker you are in the fight, this pertains to re-alting mid-flight as well. Low altitude performance is the other factor, if your plane does not require you to be above the majority of your enemy for optimal performance you will require less time to get altitude and re-gain it mid-flight.
4) Hit Percentage- There are three plane characteristcs that effect this statistic; ballistics, gun mounting and nose-low deflection view. Typically, nose mounted weapon systems are easier to hit with than wing mounted ones as convergence is not an issue. Certain munition types have poor ballistics and/or slow rates of fire, these will hurt your hit %.
Something alot of people never consider but I consider of paramount importance in choosing a fighter is nose-low deflection view. If a plane does not have it you are taking away from your repetoire a HUGE number of otherwise valuable high deflection snap-shot opportunities that would otherwise be kills in your pelt pouch. Having a plane with good nose-low deflection view means you will almost never be shooting 'blind', that is shooting at a target for deflection that is actually below the visual obstruction of your engine cowling, this improves your hit % dramatically.
5) Points-There are two characteristics that effects this statistic, ammoload and gun-type. Cannons and lots of 'em make you gather points faster. It would have been better to just call this category Damage. So, obviously the bigger your guns the more actual damage you are doing to a given target. For example, I know this will seem counter-intuitive but a burst from 6X50cals sufficient to remove a wing from a plane will do less damage and therefore garner less points than a burst of 20mm to remove the same wing. My guess is damage either transfers or damage beyond that required to destroy the plane part is still calculated even though passed its threshold for sustaining.
So, from this list of plane performance characteristics you can take a given plane and match it up against them. So, take a plane in the set and take these 9 factors that effect the 5 statistics that go into calculating fighter rank (2 repeat Ammoload and Gun-type) and give check marks where it satisfies the condition. We will use the La7 in this example:
1) Speed- The La7 is the fastest non-perk plane in the set, obviously it gets a CHECK.
2) Ammoload-While the La7 doesn't have a huge ammoload it's pretty plentifull. CHECK.
3) Gun-Type-Most fly the 3 cannon version, CHECK.
4) Fuel Load- The La7 has no capacity for drop-tanks and limited internal fuel, no check.
5) Climbrate- The La7 climbs great up to it's optimal performance altitude. CHECK
6) Low Altitude performance- The La7 is in hog heaven below 12k.CHECK
7) Gun Mounting- The La7 has nose mounted guns. CHECK
8) Ballistics- The Russian cannon's ballistics are not great, no check
9) Nose Low Deflection View- La7 has exceptionally poor nose-low deflection view, most deflection shots will be 'blind'. no check
So, as you can see of the 9 characteristics the La7 gets a CHECK in 6 of them, fuel load, ballistics and lack of nose-low deflection view being the only drawbacks to optimal fighter rank. But, due to the La7's great low altitude performance it does not require as much fuel to fight effectively as other aircraft which must get and preserve higher altitudes to be effective.
Of note with this ranking system is one important factor. You will notice that Ammoload and Gun-Type appear twice but are only factored once. This means, relatively speaking, for optimal fighter rank, Ammoload and gun-type are of greater importance relative to any other factor by a 2/1 ratio. It is because of this fact you will notice in any given camp the predominance of cannon equipped planes. There is a huge bias toward cannon planes in the MA in AH2. This is a result of the above as well as the harder gunnery model.
As far as fighter rank is concerned this takes into account the aircraft. But, obviously, the pilot plays a huge part as well. If you take the plane's characteristics as it relates to the 5 statistics that effect fighter rank and combine that with the pilot's flying style as it pertains to the 5 statitistics that go into fighter rank you should be able to approximate anyone's 'potential' fighter rank. Briefly, let's evaluate the pilot characteristics that go into fighter rank just for fun:
1) K/D
a) Altitude-You'll get gang banged less and be able to choose your fights more. (within realistic parameters of your chosen ride's optimal performance altitude relative to the altitude of the enemy)
b) SA-You will get cherried less and avoid being gang banged more knowing when to engage and dis-engage.
c) Staying fast- Once you get slow you are committed, you lose the luxury of eggressing if the situation worsens, either by you getting outflown or by additional enemies engaging you mid-fight.
2) K/S
a) Vulching- Obviously this is the easiest kill in the game, you can rack these up very quickly if there are enemies dumb enough to up from a CAP'd field for you.
b) Re-arming-This will definately increase your K/S, but as is the case wth many of these factors there exists a mutual exclusivity with other factors. Re-arming is time consuming and somewhat dangerous as you remain vulnerable during the process, unable to defend youself.
3) K/T
a) Vulching- Obviously this is the easiest kill in the game, you can rack these up very quickly if there are enemies dumb enough to up from a CAP'd field for you.
b) Fight Low- Another paradox, fighting low and even dying helps your K/T as you do not spend time alting, re-alting or RTB'ing. Suicide warriors have the best of it in the K/T category. Base defenders upping from CAP'd or high CAP'd fields and CV defenders/attackers would fall loosely into this category. Also, the 'runway vulcher' who alts to 10-12k dives past 15 intervening cons to make a few passes up and down an enemy runway vulching before he inevitably gets wacked fits this general profile.
4) Hit Percentage
a) Vulching- A stationary or a slow moving, defenseless target on the ground is easy to hit.
b) Buff Hunting- Bigger target, easier to hit, simple.
c) Get in Close- Closer is better from a lethality and hit % point-of-view.
5) Points
a) Buff Hunting- Buffs take alot of damage therefore they give alot of points if you have the proper weaponry.
Notice 3 things. Firstly, a couple of factors on the pilot's factor list are congruent to factors on the plane factor list, staying fast and Low altitude flying and performance, so you would want to weigh these more heavily. Secondly, vulching is the best way to achieve 3 of the 5 statistics with pilot factors, this explains the lust for the vulch in the MA. Conversely, those who do not vulch yet achieve a very high fighter rank are really accomplishing something, they are effectively competing with a severe handicap so must be doing the other things EXTREMELY well to compensate. Thirdly, notice buff hunting appears twice as a means to achieving better rank for both points and hit %. Buff hunting all but requires cannons, another reason cannons are the dominant weapon of choice in the MA.
Anyways, excuse the long post, I'm a statistics nut so enjoy analyzing such things, hope this helps, especially the newer players.
Zazen
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Its mostly about killing lots of enemys and not dieing while doing it.
Any plane that lets you manage that will get you to the top of fighter score.
When you check the scores of the top fighter pilots this and last tour i see that with low eny planes like p51d as well as with high eny planes like c205 people mangage to get top scores.
You need a plane that you can use to achieve a high k/d, k/t, k/s for others P51D, 190D9, Tempest, C205, P38J, Spit16, P47D11, F4U-1C seem to work. So i think choosing the plane rather depends on your flying style. Eny comes into play only in the score category, so flying a low eny fighter gives some points but it does not matter enough to bring you up in score if that fighter hinders you in any other category.
BTW the guys i randomly checked for score did not fly in la7, who are the top fighter pilots flying la7?
1. forget the speed. firstly your going to shoot down anyone anyway and secondly you can avoid being ganged with some alt and looking at dar bar. Wilbuz,killnu and others manage easy to get better than 10 k/d with not the fastest plane.
2. forget the nose mounted guns. if you want to be top fighter pilot you can hit with any guns. its not that hard
3. Fuel duration helps to be longer in combat, which means shorter to/from flights in relation to improove k/t
4.What do you need 3 canons for? be it 1 3cm, 2 hispano, 4 cal .50 any of that or more than that and the plane can do it.
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Originally posted by Schutt
BTW the guys i randomly checked for score did not fly in la7, who are the top fighter pilots flying la7?
Check people like Fariz, Ghi, Falcnwng, Hammy, Shane, Ruaml, pacerr, pug, may1, EZeepkns, MAddbull. These people have all achieved a relatively high fighter rank almost exclusively flying the La7.
Zazen
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All these posts and no one named the kings of score whoring?
The D9 and the 1C.
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Just vulch a squady, that's what my skwad did:aok
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I don't know if Vad is being serious or not, but the only thing I agree with him on is avoiding bombers. Unless you've got 4 20mm's the odds of living against the gunners is slim.
Diving in to help a friendly in trouble is not a bad thing. Blowing all your energy doing so is - clearing someone's 6 does not require you commit to a 120 mph stall fight.
Diving into swarms of enemas is not necessarily a death sentence either. If you have some combination of altitude and angles on your side you can get right in the thick of large numbers of enemies and never get a scratch. Sometimes you can kill one or two in the process, often you can drag some of the dumber ones away from the herd to meet their eventual demise.
Who you fly with is pretty important, though. Flying with people who steal kills and don't at least cover you in return is not helping you much. "Stealing kills" is also subjective - if you're in a P51D and they're all in C-Hog's or Tiffy's, well, duh.
The plane you fly won't in itself improve your rank. Especially if it goes counter to your style. And many of the better and/or experienced players will switch off between 2 or 3 or 4 different planes in an evening, depending on the situation at hand.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Just vulch a squady, that's what my skwad did:aok
That's what makes you guys so ghey...errr a happy squad.
That kind of bonding makes you closer.:)
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Check people like Fariz, Ghi, Falcnwng, Hammy, Shane, Ruaml, pacerr, pug, may1, EZeepkns, MAddbull. These people have all achieved a relatively high fighter rank almost exclusively flying the La7.
Zazen
Ok.. checked some of those.
LA7 was not the main ride i found, but played some role. Most la7 i saw was ruaml with 214 of 600 kills in la7. of course i dont see which of the kills are scored as fighter kills.
I also saw yak9u, la5, 109G10 (now listed as k4), 262, tempest, seafire, 109D9.
It pretty much shows that you can achieve good rank with a lot of diffrent planes. La7 looks like a good choice too.
p.s. sorry for my late edit... hoped to make it before anyone anwserd
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Originally posted by Schutt
I also saw yak9u, la5, 109G10 (now listed as k4), 262, tempest, seafire, 109D9.
It pretty much shows that you can achieve good rank with a lot of diffrent planes. La7 looks like a good choice too.
Note that with one exception, these are all fast planes. They are also fast, cannon-armed planes. The one slow plane (the Seafire) is also armed with cannons, and I'd venture that its inclusion here has more to do with easy base suppression and ack protection than anything else (i.e. vulching or picking at a base under attack by a CV).
So yes, you can achieve a high rank with a number of different planes, but those planes generally share certain attributes that make them appealing to people who play for rank.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Just vulch a squady, that's what my skwad did:aok
How did I not become the highest ranked fighter that tour?
:furious Fools! I work with fools!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Note that with one exception, these are all fast planes. They are also fast, cannon-armed planes. ...
Not just fast in terms of top-end, but also all have good acceleration (except the 262, of course).
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Not just fast in terms of top-end, but also all have good acceleration (except the 262, of course).
Good point. Plus the 262, while suffering from poor slow-speed acceleration, actually enjoys the fastest acceleration above about 275-300mph. If you keep the plane within that speed range or faster, nothing can catch you at a comparable speed in a dive.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by ArtLaw
What is the best fighter to fly to lower fighter rank. Or what are the statogies to lower fighter rank. Should someone fly low ENY or hi ENY.
The one you suck in the least.
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Anything fast, with cannons.
And vulch, vulch, vulch. The true art of base suppresison and vulching is quickly becoming lost. Grab a JABO plane with cannon, whack the VH and all the ack and rack up the kills. Vulching gives you the best KT, KD, KS and hit percentage.
Current favorites.
For vulching:
Tempest
C-Hog
110-G2
Any P-38
For furrin' :
Tempest
La5 (La7 is great, I just feel guilty when I fly that plane)
Any of the Spitfires
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Originally posted by g00b
Anything fast, with cannons.
And vulch, vulch, vulch. The true art of base suppresison and vulching is quickly becoming lost. Grab a JABO plane with cannon, whack the VH and all the ack and rack up the kills. Vulching gives you the best KT, KD, KS and hit percentage.
Current favorites.
For vulching:
Tempest
C-Hog
110-G2
Any P-38
For furrin' :
Tempest
La5 (La7 is great, I just feel guilty when I fly that plane)
Any of the Spitfires
I knew I shouldn't have read this thread.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Schutt
Ok.. checked some of those.
LA7 was not the main ride i found, but played some role. Most la7 i saw was ruaml with 214 of 600 kills in la7. of course i dont see which of the kills are scored as fighter kills.
I also saw yak9u, la5, 109G10 (now listed as k4), 262, tempest, seafire, 109D9.
It pretty much shows that you can achieve good rank with a lot of diffrent planes. La7 looks like a good choice too.
p.s. sorry for my late edit... hoped to make it before anyone anwserd
Look back a few camps, people are mixing it up alot this camp with the new rides and stuff so it's not really representative of their usual flying habits. Trust me that's a short list of some of the better ranking La7 jocks past and present.
Zazen
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One thing that most folks forget is that everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses, which can be enhanced by plane choice. A player who has a K/D rank that is significantly higher than his K/T rank should probably dump his fast safe ride for one that promotes earning its living in the quick mix rather than skipping around the edges.
Likewise, the player who’s K/T rank is significantly higher than his K/D rank should probably dump his twisty-turny fighter for one that allows him to occasionally escape with speed or climb.
If a guy is hurting in points and flies an mg armed plane, he should probably swap it for a cannon bird that will inflict more damage and earn more points.
Of course attitude and flying style make an even bigger difference, but the principal remains the same: work on improving your weakest ranking areas even if it means doing worse in your best areas.
eskimo
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p47n
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If you've never done it and want your rank halved, run a C47 troop haul.
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I dont put much stock in rank. Seems like to much work, and having to deny yourself some good fights, just to make sure your numbers stay good. Theres too many variables. Guys who fly tempests and buzz thru furballs, guys who just play alot in furballs, guys who go from one base to another looking for the place he can harvest the most kills the quickest.
To me it kinda takes some of the relaxation out of it. I dont care if it takes me 2 hours to find a good fight, when I do, its worth it to me.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Thats about the size of it.
Ranking in this game is all about manipulating the game and/or the kind of missions you run.
It has very little to do with how good you are
Want a high fighter rank. Always fly with the horde and do exactly as Superdud says. Fly to live and pick. Never get into a fight with even odds or where you dont have a clear superiour advantage. As soon as you even come close to loosing that advantage. Bug out and split.
Want a high overall rank. Fly a little of this, a little of that. Milkrun a few strat targets, Be the m3 that gets a few base captures and thats about it.
Its really not all that difficult as I proved to myself a few tours ago by trying but not even very hard I finished within the top 60 or so in overall rank.
Typically I have found the very best cream of the crop sklilled pilots rarely if ever even rank in the top 200 let alone the top 100 or 50.
So ranking is very misleading.
Take SHawk for example.
I'll not deny hes a good guy and a good stick. indeed he is. And he flys smart.
But he by far isnt the best in the game I've come across
Yea that high ranking looks good, gets your name in lights and all that good stuff.
But in reality other then that typically it means very little.
I've said the same thing in the past and have been pummelled by others on channel 2 about this. I agree Dred, being able to manipulate the game deters from it.
I've shot down the best and have been shot down by the worst like the rest of the MA.
Karaya
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Some very good replies but no one has mentioned --->>>> REARMING.
190's, P47's, yakU, tiffs and temps and maybe this new spit 14.
As already implied in prevoius replies you can manipulate fighter rank knowing a few tricks....Examples below.
Always score as fighter not attacker. ( you want fighter rank only right?)
Never shoot buildings in fighter mode. (It nails your hit rate)
Never miss an opportunity to vulch a well capped de-acked field and get back there ASAP.
If you use a (example) 190 and take 40 min to get 8 safe kills it is better to take a yak9U / gay7 or what ever and get 8 kills with rearming, in half the time. (assuming your a competant furballer).
oh... nearly forgot... Give up work, get single, devote as much time as possible and just play.
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Also having a wingman can make things easier.
Another pair of eyeballs and someone to clear your six when your in the crapper also goes along way
when my boy kazaa is in game we can start double our amount of kills
:cool:
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
It has very little to do with how good you are
Want a high fighter rank. Always fly with the horde and do exactly as Superdud says. Fly to live and pick. Never get into a fight with even odds or where you dont have a clear superiour advantage. As soon as you even come close to loosing that advantage. Bug out and split.
Close to the real thing. Isnt it?
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Originally posted by gatt
Close to the real thing. Isnt it?
Not at all close. But this debate has raged on for years, so let's not open that can of worms.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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while we're on the subject of rank, this tour I decided to see what kind of rank I could achieve if I did fighter, attack, gv, etc, sorties. I'm currently ranked like 104 or something like that. My main problem is gv'ing, I can't hit crap in them except buildings but I have allot of captures in M3's... My K/D ratio sux in gv's as i do allot of supply runs and stuff like that but I have 8 captures and only rank like 400 or something... When gv'ing or doin a bomber sorty, how does takes come into the equation of rank ?
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F4u-1 all the way baby. Obviosly if flown right. I get more kills in this bird then most cannon planes. Why I not sure but most of the time I am returning home with 6 kills in it and still have 1000 rounds left. Just low on fuel. I usually up with 75% fuel to which gives about 40 mins flying time give or take afew.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Check people like Fariz, Ghi, Falcnwng, Hammy, Shane, Ruaml, pacerr, pug, may1, EZeepkns, MAddbull. These people have all achieved a relatively high fighter rank almost exclusively flying the La7.
Zazen
First:------- i didn't , i don't and i'll never care about score,
Check my stats, I fly La7 since new patch, Cuz i'm psst of this patch,G10 is out, and i don't like K-4,G14.
And what can i fly to fight the super Spits 16?!
But why are you talking , cuz you are not a fighter? i didn't meet you in fights, unless some safe mode BZ in your tyhphy escorted by 2-3 wingmens, in some areas without red darbar,
imop Typhoon is for those, like you; to proud to fly La7
:)
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Originally posted by ghi
First:------- i didn't , i don't and i'll never care about score,
Check my stats, I fly La7 since new patch, Cuz i'm psst of this patch,G10 is out, and i don't like K-4,G14.
And what can i fly to fight the super Spits 16?!
But why are you talking , cuz you are not a fighter? i didn't meet you in fights, unless some safe mode BZ in your tyhphy escorted by 2-3 wingmens, in some areas without red darbar,
imop Typhoon is for those, like you; to proud to fly La7
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I'll pretend I understood that... ;)
Zazen
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Originally posted by Iceman24
while we're on the subject of rank, this tour I decided to see what kind of rank I could achieve if I did fighter, attack, gv, etc, sorties. I'm currently ranked like 104 or something like that. My main problem is gv'ing, I can't hit crap in them except buildings but I have allot of captures in M3's... My K/D ratio sux in gv's as i do allot of supply runs and stuff like that but I have 8 captures and only rank like 400 or something... When gv'ing or doin a bomber sorty, how does takes come into the equation of rank ?
Learn to shoot in an ostwind. I only use the Ostwind for base defense killing vulchers and usually end up with #1 in K/D ahead of all the spawn campers and top 10 in K/S and K/T. If I choose to bother to get a m3 capture and rocket something I am good for top 10 vehicle rank....
Zazen
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I have no problems with spit16. I actually think they are very predictable. I kill them all the time in my f4u-1 in a turn fight.
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Same thoughts here about the Spitfire XVI. From what I've seen, it's hardly the "uber" Spitfire because like the Spifire XIV, it's not being flown properly by those that are using them. They still think it's a turn fighter like the the V and the IX. It's fun watching the Spitfire XVI wallow around trying to stall fight.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Iceman24
while we're on the subject of rank, this tour I decided to see what kind of rank I could achieve if I did fighter, attack, gv, etc, sorties. I'm currently ranked like 104 or something like that. My main problem is gv'ing, I can't hit crap in them except buildings but I have allot of captures in M3's... My K/D ratio sux in gv's as i do allot of supply runs and stuff like that but I have 8 captures and only rank like 400 or something... When gv'ing or doin a bomber sorty, how does takes come into the equation of rank ?
Field captures are 1,000 points. Like blowing a whole town apart..................KaChin g
GV-ing go 2 go z go max zoom ]]]]]]]]] fire ;)
best gv situation = Tiger 1200 to 1600 near spawn point on a hill
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Yeah ... I can't say the Spit 16 has changed much for me either. Once the novelty wore off I went back to the P51D for most flights. The Spit16 is nice for base defense with that climb rate and the Hispanos - but it can't handle Ludicrous Speed like the Pony.
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My whole problem with the rank system is that if you "only" fly fighters, you're punished because your score in GV's etc., is zero so you get that deducted from your fighter score. That's just not right. I'm glad I don't care about rank. The only thing I care about in my score is the kill/death ratio and the hit percentage.
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The spitXVI is the little plane that could, but doesn't. High ENY all the way! sexcept for the times when I vulched and cherry picked, using the speed, exceptional mid-alt performance, and armament to shoot my way into the volch and pad my score, all courtesy of the new spits.
Vulch with a hurri, you'll get mad rankz.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Check people like Fariz, Ghi, Falcnwng, Hammy, Shane, Ruaml, pacerr, pug, may1, EZeepkns, MAddbull. These people have all achieved a relatively high fighter rank almost exclusively flying the La7.
Zazen
Interesting, where you get information for this statement?
Do not know about other guys, but you can take me out of this list. I flew La5 almost exclusively even when la's were not porked with fuel burn rate . Now I fly la7 for field defence/field porking only.
While I generally prefer la5 to yakU, la5 now is a pain due to cut fuel endurancy.
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Originally posted by Fariz
Interesting, where you get information for this statement?
Do not know about other guys, but you can take me out of this list. I flew La5 almost exclusively even when la's were not porked with fuel burn rate . Now I fly la7 for field defence/field porking only.
While I generally prefer la5 to yakU, la5 now is a pain due to cut fuel endurancy.
My list isn't necessarily what those people do now, but what they have accomplished in the past. You for example used to fly the La7 ALOT and ranked very highly in fighters doing so circa camp 40-50 (haven't gone back and researched recently but that's close). My reply was to a poster that asserted noone who flew the La7 almost exclusively has ever ranked highly in fighter. I begged to differ.
Zazen