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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: StarOfAfrica2 on November 15, 2005, 12:31:12 AM
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I have no idea if this info is true or not, it was sent to me in an email. That alone makes it suspect. :) I cant seem to verify the requirements.
For a person to apply for guard duty at the tomb, he must be
between 5' 10" and 6' 2" tall and his waist size cannot exceed 30." Other
requirements of the Guard: They must commit 2 years of life to guard the
tomb, live in a barracks under the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on
or off duty for the rest of their lives. They cannot swear in public for the
rest of their lives and cannot disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in
any way. After two years, the guard is given a wreath pin that is worn on
their lapel signifying they served as guard of the tomb. There are only
400 presently worn. The ! guard must obey these rules for the rest of their
lives or give up the wreath pin.
The shoes are specially made with very thick soles to keep the heat
and cold from their feet. There are metal heel plates that extend to the
top of the shoe in order to make the loud click as they come to a halt.
There are no wrinkles, folds or lint on the uniform. Guards dress for duty
in front of a full-length mirror.
The first six months of duty a guard cannot talk to anyone, nor
watch TV. All off duty time is spent studying the 175 notable people laid
to rest in Arlington National Cemetery. A guard must memorize who they are
and where they are interred. Among the notables are: President Taft, Joe
E. Lewis {the boxer} and Medal of Honor winner Audie Murphy, {the most
decorated soldier of WWII} of ! Hollywood fame.
Every guard spends five hours a day getting his uniforms ready for
guard duty.
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Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/military/unknown.asp)
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Anyone notice how the world was a brighter and more fun place before snopes?
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TY! I tried Snopes first, but I must have typed something wrong. i got nothing. I wasnt aware of the FAQ. Now I am.
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That email is still going around? I think I recieved that about 3 years ago.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Anyone notice how the world was a brighter and more fun place before snopes?
Well... ignorance is bliss.
Why worry about interesting true stories when you can just make **** up.
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Yep it's all very true, what a life choice ehh.
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Then again..look a the choice a good priest made.
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Hey, at least we're happy, right sandy?
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If I get the chance later on I'll try and see if I can dig up a post I got from another board about this e-mail. Someone who was/still is a guard commented on it. For now, at least the no swearing part is false...
However, being a guard is still demanding, and still one of the more highly regarded (by the public) jobs in the Army outside of SF and Ranger.
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Originally posted by Bruno
[BSnopes[/url][/b] [/B]
Why is it when I try to click on this link. and a couple sites I've tried to go to "Microsoft office for small Buisness 2000" instalation wizard pops up?
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Another question.
While I have no doubt this one is correct. or incorrect as the case may be.
Everyone uses "Snopes" to debunk.
but how are we so sure Snopes has the real answer all the time?
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Another question.
While I have no doubt this one is correct. or incorrect as the case may be.
Everyone uses "Snopes" to debunk.
but how are we so sure Snopes has the real answer all the time?
You're free to prove Snopes wrong. :)
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Originally posted by Sandman
You're free to prove Snopes wrong. :)
I do not feel the need to try.
I am simply curious as to why everyone assumes Snopes is always right
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Why do you assume it is not?
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Originally posted by Maverick
Why do you assume it is not?
Im not
Just wondering Why we always just assume it is?
Someone says something and right away we go to Snopes and take for granted that everything they say is gospel because they say so.
Why?
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Someone says something and right away we go to Snopes and take for granted that everything they say is gospel because they say so.
Why?
As opposed to some guy just cut/pasting here his junk email and taking for "granted that everything they say is gospel?"
I mean... I realize that it must get, well.... fatiguing having your illusions so consistently shattered... But in the immortal words of G 'n freakin' R....
Lose your illusion.
Snopes doesn't just spew forth "blaaargh." It picks out the pertinent peices and examines them closely. ie. "He definitely had the casserole and not the salmon patties as we note the peices of undigested corn."
Like.... soooo sorry that "the world was a brighter and more fun place before snopes".....
Because life is already tough enough in the reality-based community. Know what I'm saying?
Prolly not.
Still..... it doesn't mean we gotta make life easier for you.
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Status: Multiple — see below.
Ummm before you guys get into a stupid argument why don't you actually read snopes. Just because it's on snopes doesn't automatically mean it's wrong. There are several wrong things in the email but several right as well. It doesn't take away from the honor that the tomb guards recieve.
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Screw that.
This BBS is a wasteland of:
"Okay that may be wrong, but you get the idea."
No, and absolutely not, and BS, and no again.
It's lies, pure and simple, and if the truth about the Guard is not noble enough for you to handle, then seek to change the rules.
Reality is what it is.
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Originally posted by Nash
As opposed to some guy just cut/pasting here his junk email and taking for "granted that everything they say is gospel?"
I mean... I realize that it must get, well.... fatiguing having your illusions so consistently shattered... But in the immortal words of G 'n freakin' R....
Lose your illusion.
Snopes doesn't just spew forth "blaaargh." It picks out the pertinent peices and examines them closely. ie. "He definitely had the casserole and not the salmon patties as we note the peices of undigested corn."
Like.... soooo sorry that "the world was a brighter and more fun place before snopes".....
Because life is already tough enough in the reality-based community. Know what I'm saying?
Prolly not.
Still..... it doesn't mean we gotta make life easier for you.
Get a grip Nash,
you post as much BS here as anyone if it suits your arguement
Havent had one of my "illusions" shattered by Snopes that I can remember thankyouverymuch.
so I havent a clue where your comming from.
Nor do I understand your sarcasm as it is indeed unwarranted
I never at any point said snopes was wrong.
Just wondering why we all tend to accept whatever they say as absolute gospel.
Hell, some people dont even take the Gospel as being "gospel" yet we, and by "we" I mean all of us constantly point to Snopes as though it is the be all end all fact site.
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Originally posted by Nash
Screw that.
This BBS is a wasteland of:
"Okay that may be wrong, but you get the idea."
No, and absolutely not, and BS, and no again.
It's lies, pure and simple, and if the truth about the Guard is not noble enough for you to handle, then seek to change the rules.
Reality is what it is.
Just remember Nash. Your an integral part of that wasteland of which you speak.
Again I never said snope was wrong. And nor have I on this particular issue.
My question was ment as a general question about Snopes itself and really didnt have anything to do with the guard at all.
Its just that I keep seeing everyone use snopes and got to thinking about it.
this just happened to be the thread I posed the question in.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Why is it when I try to click on this link. and a couple sites I've tried to go to "Microsoft office for small Buisness 2000" instalation wizard pops up?
I have no idea, I don't have any control over your CPU.
but how are we so sure Snopes has the real answer all the time?
As opposed to what? Some anonymous email that has been circulating around the web for years? Its up to you as to what you chose to believe or not. I would have more faith in a website like Snopes being right then the junk mail.
YMMV
EDIT:
I didn't read Nash's post before I rpelied but he said samething as I just did above.
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I'll answer you in good faith.
Unlike you and I, Snopes doesn't just say stuff.
Snopes leads with the question, examines it, and either affirms the conclusion or debunks it based on a transpearent evaluation of the facts.
We don't, generally.
And, as demonstrated in this thread, some "notice how the world was a brighter and more fun place before Snopes."
Which - when you think about that - when you really think about that - means.... what?
So don't get yer skirt in a knot. It's not as if I'm making this up, and if so inclined, I could probably find a snapshot or two of your head so deeply submerged in the Kool-Aid as to make your objections here understandable.
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Originally posted by Bruno
I have no idea, I don't have any control over your CPU.
Wasnt blaming you for it nor was I addressing you specifically.
. Again, was a general question as I have been noticing this happening lately from time to time on different websites.
Was just hoping someone would have an explanation as to why.
sorry for the misunderstanding
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Originally posted by Nash
So don't get yer skirt in a knot. It's not as if I'm making this up, and if so inclined, I could probably find a snapshot or two of your head so deeply submerged in the Kool-Aid as to make your objections here understandable.
You ever find anyone here you cant say that about, including yourself.
I wanna meet them LMAO
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Laugh, and ponder the more fun place before Snopes.
Don't get me wrong.... I don't even know Snopes.
But I know aversion to truth when I see it. And when I see it? It Screams.
Enough.
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Originally posted by Nash
Laugh, and ponder the more fun place before Snopes.
Don't get me wrong.... I don't even know Snopes.
But I know aversion to truth when I see it. And when I see it? It Screams.
Enough.
Truth of the matter I dont really care.
It really was simply a curious question and nothing more.
Your reading entirely too much into it
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If all you were was curious them all you needed to do was go to the site:
Q: How do I know the information you've presented is accurate?
A: We don't expect anyone to accept us as the ultimate authority on any topic, which is why our site's name indicates that it contains reference pages. Unlike the plethora of anonymous individuals who create and send the unsigned, unsourced e-mail messages that are forwarded all over the Internet, we show our work. The research materials we've used in the preparation of any particular page are listed in the bibliography displayed at the bottom of that page so that readers who wish to verify the validity of our information may check those sources for themselves.
Snopes FAQ (http://www.snopes.com/info/faq.asp)
Also the sources for Snopes information on this particular subject are listed at the bottom of the page:
Colbert, Sgt. Jamelle. "Tomb of the Unknowns Awards 500th Tomb Guard Identification Badge."
The Pentagram. 11 January 2002.
Dyson, Spc. Eric. "A Half-Century of Solemn Duty."
The Pentagram. 3 April 1998.
Dyson, Spc. Eric. "Tomb Guards Plan Reunion Weekend."
The Pentagram. 27 March 1998.
Nguyen, Lan. "A Final Salute; Sentry Set a Record at Tomb of the Unknowns."
The Washington Post. 7 March 1996 (p. V1).
Riskind, Jonathan. "An Honor to Serve."
The Columbus Dispatch. 26 May 1997 (p. B3).
I am not sure what else you need but there's contact information and a 'Snopes Community' Messageboard (http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi) and you can ask them directly. That is if your curiosity is as genuine as you claim.
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The straightdope website (http://www.straightdope.com/) also answers questions on random noteworthy facts.
A recent article of theirs on Numerology (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mnumerology.html) might interest some posters :D
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All words always fail to convey their intended meaning*
Perception is ever changing based on the constant motion of world. We read and understand based solely upon our mental state the instant that we read it. The words we are reading were written before by someone else in a different evironment and now we are interpreting them at our present environment (which is in motion). Try and read the same book twice. It always holds different meaning the scond time. Why? The words haven't changed, we have. So words cannot be relied upon to be reliable and anything which is not reliable must be in flux. The truth is never in flux (it is a constant and fixed reality) and so words must not be the truth. Therefore, if words always fail to be the truth then Snopes (relying on the truth of words) must also always fail. We cannot believe anything that we read because our written language is failed due to the motion of the world which results in variations in word meaning and what we infer the intent of the sentence to be.
(*Stolen mostly from Derrida)
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Sentinels at the Tomb of the Unknowns (http://www.tombguard.org/FAQ.html)
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Originally posted by Nash
I'll answer you in good faith.
Unlike you and I, Snopes doesn't just say stuff.
Snopes leads with the question, examines it, and either affirms the conclusion or debunks it based on a transpearent evaluation of the facts.
We don't, generally.
And, as demonstrated in this thread, some "notice how the world was a brighter and more fun place before Snopes."
Which - when you think about that - when you really think about that - means.... what?
So don't get yer skirt in a knot. It's not as if I'm making this up, and if so inclined, I could probably find a snapshot or two of your head so deeply submerged in the Kool-Aid as to make your objections here understandable.
OK let's try this a different way. Nash, did you actually read the snopes link? It's rather "tardish" to babble about somthing so ignorantly.
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Guns, don't shun Nash, he's an artiste!
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Originally posted by moot
Guns, don't shun Nash, he's an artiste!
Maybe he should switch to "haynes: thongs for men" cause his panties allways seem to be in a bunch.
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Nash is just a "Disgruntled CanaDUHian" ranting alot about nothing who's only purpose is to hijack threads and/or being a pure nuisence.
:p
Mac
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Originally posted by Bruno
I am not sure what else you need but there's contact information and a 'Snopes Community' Messageboard (http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi) and you can ask them directly. That is if your curiosity is as genuine as you claim.
I probably didnt contact snopes or their message boards because I was posing the question to the people....... here;)
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I'll believe anything Snopes has to say (or any one of you here for that matter) when I can cross reference or someone can point me to other legitimate information. However - I won't dismiss it as false either. I'll just roll my eyes. :)