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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: AutoPilot on November 16, 2005, 01:55:14 AM
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You are the guideance system,used in the Bob04 map would be awesome to try to pilot a V-2 all the way too target without any of the spit's and hurri's shooting you down.
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the V2 is a balistic missile. this meens it shoots up into the stratosphere untill it runs out of fuel and velocity. then it hurls back down towards earth. you would not pilot it because it would be going too fast (about 2000mph) for the human mind to acurately hit a target. besides. the guidence was preset before launch so you would not even pilot it.
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
the V2 is a balistic missile. this meens it shoots up into the stratosphere untill it runs out of fuel and velocity. then it hurls back down towards earth. you would not pilot it because it would be going too fast (about 2000mph) for the human mind to acurately hit a target. besides. the guidence was preset before launch so you would not even pilot it.
Never played Orbiter eh?
(http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/images/NASSP1.jpg)
(http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/images/exp1-large.jpg)
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V2, no.
V1, sure! Especially if we get an He-111 to drop it from :aok
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
You are the guideance system,used in the Bob04 map would be awesome to try to pilot a V-2 all the way too target without any of the spit's and hurri's shooting you down.
WTF?!!? Nothing in WWII ever shot a V2 down old chap, you didn't hear the damn thing arrive until it blew your house (or more likely a field) to smithereens. Anyone trying to pilot one would find their brains, and other internal body bits, being rapidly expelled through their anal passage long before arrival. Infact this whole idea sounds liked it was expelled from someone's anal passage.;)
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
...you would not pilot it because it would be going too fast (about 2000mph) for the human mind to acurately hit a target....
I think all SR-71 pilots would disagree with that, they flew surprisingly accurate at that velocity
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Originally posted by Debonair
I think all SR-71 pilots would disagree with that, they flew surprisingly accurate at that velocity
Well, not counting stories about getting lost at Mach 3... Nothing like ending up in another country before you find where you are on the map again...
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I never read that story
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Originally posted by Debonair
I think all SR-71 pilots would disagree with that, they flew surprisingly accurate at that velocity
Wonder how they would have faired pointing straight down at 2000 MPH.
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the v2s were remote controlled by a bomber flying near the target area
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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob
the v2s were remote controlled by a bomber flying near the target area
:rofl :cry :huh :O
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!! I KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT!! he is confused. he is not talking about the V2. he is talking about them german smart bombs. yah. he got a good idea, he just a little dim.
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Someone post a V-2 picture to help ejumacate these guys.
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Originally posted by Lye-El
Wonder how they would have faired pointing straight down at 2000 MPH.
They'd likely have hit their target then on to 'hooks'
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they used midgets inside the V2 to feed the engine coal and to control where it went. once the midget supply ran out they started using hamsters, but they couldnt shovel so much coal.
Peenemunde (where they developed the V2) is well renowned for its midget supply, and actually means "midget land" in German.
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Yeah, Bugs Bunny did a documentary about that
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
You are the guideance system,used in the Bob04 map would be awesome to try to pilot a V-2 all the way too target without any of the spit's and hurri's shooting you down.
Yes, we'll get the V2 Rocket right after HTC introduces the F-22.
:)
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Peenemunde (where they developed the V2) is well renowned for its midget supply, and actually means "midget land" in German.
How many of your reletives dodged the V-2 Furby?
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
How many of your reletives dodged the V-2 Furby?
Don't think there was any dodgeing. It went boom...and then you heard it coming down.
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
How many of your reletives dodged the V-2 Furby?
my grandmother worked in ammunition factories in London, and my grandfather was on a sunflower class corvette (pretty much the worst posting you could get in the RN) working the convoys across the atlantic and up to the russians, including convoy HX229 which was made famous by postwar films.
i dont know about the rest of my family. my grandmother at least spent the entire war in central London.
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Never played Orbiter eh?
(http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/images/NASSP1.jpg)
(http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/images/exp1-large.jpg)
What Sim game is that? looks pimp with rockets :D
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Originally posted by outbreak
What Sim game is that? looks pimp with rockets :D
http://www.orbitersim.com
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i gotta try it. for some reason it looks fun.
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downloading now =] love the Addon packs to lol they lookin pretty pimp
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Learning curve is pretty steep. Need a healthy background in orbital mechanics so don't be afraid to hit the books and dust off the old TI-82 calculator.
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Learning curve is pretty steep. Need a healthy background in orbital mechanics so don't be afraid to hit the books and dust off the old TI-82 calculator.
Or just do like me and get VERY profecient with using the various MFDs. Once you learn to read them they make most orbital maneuvers rather easy.
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i made the ISS crash. couldnt figure out how to turn off vertical thrusters when i was docked.
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The only way a V2 (or V1 for that matter) would work is if it was perked heavily and the guidence system worked like the big guns on the CVs; Click your target on the map and push fire. Maybe there could be some sort of external follow view so you could watch it take off and go way the heck up and then crash back down. Make them only available from large bases or even zone bases. This could also create another strat target for the toolshedders...
Also a great way to get rid of those 5 billion bomber perks you all have saved up.
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Originally posted by Skilless
The only way a V2 (or V1 for that matter) would work is if it was perked heavily and the guidence system worked like the big guns on the CVs; Click your target on the map and push fire. Maybe there could be some sort of external follow view so you could watch it take off and go way the heck up and then crash back down. Make them only available from large bases or even zone bases. This could also create another strat target for the toolshedders...
Also a great way to get rid of those 5 billion bomber perks you all have saved up.
There's only 1 problem I forsee. Squads like mine have upwards of 60 guys, and we have a ****load of bomber perks. Even if these things have a CEP of around 100 meters, 60 missiles in the air at 1 time all targeting on 1 area - can basically launch a massive decapitating strike and have a significant reserve force left over. Would pose an interesting problem, LETS do it.
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Originally posted by Wolfala
There's only 1 problem I forsee. Squads like mine have upwards of 60 guys, and we have a ****load of bomber perks. Even if these things have a CEP of around 100 meters, 60 missiles in the air at 1 time all targeting on 1 area - can basically launch a massive decapitating strike and have a significant reserve force left over. Would pose an interesting problem, LETS do it.
How about only five launch sites at each zone base? Each one a nice juicy target for those porkin' fools?
Here's a neat site about blowing up V1 launch sites. My grandfather was the crew chief for B17f 42-30342 "Tain't a Bird". This link tells of it's demise. It's a transated text so bear with it-
http://www.b17flyingfortress.de/english/index.php?id=aphrodite.htm
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Looks like the snowball is turning into landslide.
Call it operation " Doodlebug ".
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V1 would be nice. At least it shows up on dar and is catchable. ;)
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V1 , would be more fun to intercept in tempest:)
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V1 would be interesting to intercept. Try to shoot the wings of versus shooting for the body, lest you enact the high-speed chemical reaction of B O-squared M.
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Jeez, how did the V1 creep into this? They are worlds apart (V2 and V1), apart from one thing - they were both very very - times a zillion - inaccurate. Your bomber perks would be more useful if you flushed them down a fancy perked toilet that should be available in the hanger. Why isn't it? A Natter (look em up) would be a more fun way to spend perks. Maybe a V3? Why's nobody asking for one of them? Super gun. Deadly gas might be a good addition too or... They tested Anthrax in my country (Scotland) during the war, so maybe that should qualify for AH...:rolleyes:
Oh and of course, the Nazis developed flying saucers, so we should have them too. Perked of course and and and...
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The BP 20 M17(Natter) was a hopeless project Just ask Gefreiter Lothar Sieber the only person to pilot the Natter.Oh you cant cuz he died on the inaugural flight.It was a good idea just not enough time left too really put it into use.
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Originally posted by KD303
Jeez, how did the V1 creep into this?
We just talking, Not long time ago, i seen a movie on Discovery Wings, about V1. They said that about 2000 were shot down by AA, and same amount V1s were intercepted by RAF, some of them were kicked down from the sky without fireing, but flying close , and inserting the fighter plane wing under V1's wing and flip them over. I was just thinking would be fun to have them in game.:)
V2 would be useless in game, cuz can't be shot down , maybe would be hard to intercept them with todays technology.Was first balistic missile operational, and had about same perfomances like the SCUD ussed in IRAK. I seen a movie about failure of Patriot intercepting SCUD, in first golf war, It shows that not a single Scud was succesfuly intercepted. The succsesful interception was just propaganda, and advertising for Patriot sales.
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V2 - you'd have to set the initial launch angles manually prior to launch (not specify the target) and it'd cost perkies every time. I'd love to see trees spontaneously explode.
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Originally posted by Martyn
V2 - you'd have to set the initial launch angles manually prior to launch (.
V1 and V2, were equiped with gyroscop compass, not the "initial launch angles" keept them on trajectory
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Yeh - but for game play setting the angles would be tougher.
OK... you don't need to use angle settings - natural variations in wind and air pressure would make them pretty inaccurate.
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V-2 Rocket Operations
The V-2 was the first practical modern ballistic missile. Its operation was complex and involved specialized transport and launching equipment. Unlike the V-1 flying bomb operated by the Luftwaffe, the German army operated the V-2 rocket. Erecting, servicing, and launching a V-2 took from four to six hours, and required some 32 different trailers and vehicles carrying fuel, batteries, pumps, spare parts, radios, and other equipment. The entire operation required hundreds of soldiers, with the launch team alone needing more than 100 people to service and test the rocket, survey the site, run the support equipment, and command the process. In all, more than 10,000 people and 3,000 vehicles were devoted to V-2 activities.
After rail transport to the launching vicinity, large mobile cranes loaded rockets onto trailers, which took them to the actual launch site. The V-2 on display is on such a trailer, called a Meillerwagen. The best launch sites were flat, wooded areas with clearings big enough to operate the missile and with ground or pavement firm enough to hold it. At the launch site, crews raised the rocket vertically with the Meillerwagen, then fueled it with alcohol and liquid oxygen. After several tests and adjustments, the rocket could be fired from the safety of an armored control car some distance away. The V-2’s rocket engine burned for about a minute. The missile then continued in a ballistic unpowered trajectory to its target. During its flight, the V-2 reached an altitude of 50-60 miles, and its top speed was around 3,400 mph
The V-2, once launched, could not be stopped—it was too fast and flew too high. Since the V-2 arrived at several times the speed of sound, there could be no warning of its approach. The missiles impacted before the sonic boom they created was heard. Allied efforts to prevent rocket attacks depended on bombing production facilities and attacking rail transit with fighters. Allied airpower destroyed many V-2s before they reached launch sites; the V-2 on display here was damaged in an air attack.
Germany produced nearly 6,000 V-2s in 1944-45. Like the V-1, the V-2 was inaccurate. It could only be aimed at a large area, like a city. Together, the V-1 and V-2 missed their aim points by an average of more than nine miles. The first operational V-2 launch took place on September 8, 1944, and the last on March 30, 1945. During this seven-month period, 1,115 V-2s hit England, and 1,524 fell on continental Europe. Many V-2s broke up or exploded in the air, and around 15 percent were never launched due to ground malfunctions. The total damage done in England by the rockets included 2,754 killed and 6,523 severely wounded. Some of the worst V-2 attacks included the destruction of a cinema in Antwerp (561 killed), and an impact on a crowded Antwerp street that killed 128 people.
V-2 Missile
The German army developed the V-2, known also as the A4 missile, as an alternative to super-long-range artillery, which the Treaty of Versailles prohibited after World War I. Designed by rocket pioneer Wernher von Braun, the V-2 was a breakthrough in missile technology but failed to prevent Germany’s defeat in World War II. The rocket was inaccurate, which made it a poor military weapon but an effective terror device. Though the rocket was destructive, killing almost 3,000 people in England and probably even more in Belgium in the last year of the war, the German forced-labor system could not produce enough V-2s to affect the outcome of the war. In any case, the comparatively small power of V-2 attacks could not match the massive effect of Allied strategic bombing. After the war, the German rocket team and many captured missiles were brought to the United States, where V-2 technology helped to build the technological base for human spaceflight and advanced strategic missiles.
TECHNICAL NOTES
Warhead: 2,152 or 2,205 lbs Amatol 39A explosive
Maximum speed: 3,400 mph
Range: 180-220 miles
Maximum altitude: 50-60 miles
Weight: 28,000 lbs fueled
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Originally posted by ghi
I seen a movie about failure of Patriot intercepting SCUD, in first golf war, It shows that not a single Scud was succesfuly intercepted. The succsesful interception was just propaganda, and advertising for Patriot sales.
True that the Patriots were not as successful as first believed (of course they weren't designed for this task). False that it was propaganda. Observed performance seemed to indicate success during the war. Patriots flew, warheads detonated, Scuds came down in parts. Post-war analysis however, showed no evidence that actual intercepts took place (either direct impact or frag damage), instead, it appears that two things happened. The SCUDs were so poorly made/maintained that some broke apart inflight on reentry. Second, it appears that Patriot detonations (the shock wave) may have destablized the SCUDs causing already crummy missiles to breakup.
Nice try on on your "don't trust the bastards" routine though.
Mace
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Originally posted by Debonair
I think all SR-71 pilots would disagree with that, they flew surprisingly accurate at that velocity
Then again, technology was a little less advanced back in the 40's ;)