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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on November 17, 2005, 08:41:32 PM
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I take my camera to work with me every day to take pics of jobs. Yesterday I found an excuse to put my macro lens on for a minute, and snapped the spider in pic # 2. Pic #1 is a size reference pic of the same spider, taken today.
(http://www.arizonaprogreen.com/spider1.jpg)
(http://www.arizonaprogreen.com/spider2.jpg)
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About 2 years ago I could have shown you a Narley Brown Recluese bite!
Healed but, well once the skin is damaged it takes awhile to repair.
Mac
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NICE camera Nuke!
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Thank you Hang.
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Spiders are evil
ack-ack
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damn mac you got bite by a recluese that is a nasty thing to get bite by
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Mac have you EVER had anything good happen to you?
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Eddie Murphy gave him a ride home one night...tell em the rest MAC
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Originally posted by NUKE
I take my camera to work with me every day to take pics of jobs. Yesterday I found an excuse to put my macro lens on for a minute, and snapped the spider in pic # 2. Pic #1 is a size reference pic of the same spider, taken today.
What kind of camera?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Mac have you EVER had anything good happen to you?
Yessir,
Married a Beautiful Stunning, Head turning Asian Woman.... The kind that the other guys say "Dammm what does she see in you?" HaH!!! Been married now 25 years and going strong...she's also the best Suishi Chef in Town.
And I have 3 beautiful Children...
Oldest Daughter, 23, Beautiful, turned down a Congressional and Presidential appointment to West Point to advance into the Medical field. Soon to have a Full Scholorship at Baylor Medical College. Presently removing eyeballs from organ donors. Honey I only have eyes for you. LOL
My youngest Daughter,17, Just as Stunning as her Mother, is nominated for the National Honor Roll. Into Art and Science. Did I mention Tae Kwan Doe?. Presently styling in a Mitsibyatchie and working at Applebees.
My Number 1 Son, 7, is amazing at the Piano, 1st played @ 5 years old, or any musical instrument he picks up...besides he kicks my butt all the time on PS2. Can't understand why the lil girls flock around him... He's dorky. LOL...dam PS2.
My Goldie, O'Ryan is a great watchdog. Protector and Best Friend.
and my cat, Kassion champion mouse ripper 4 years straight in the State Finals.
Other than that I need to improve on my Golf swing.
and I am still a 'Klurig Språkvetare',
And you?
:D
Mac
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11:36 *a sudden spike of interrest here when Mac speaks of his 23 year old eurasian daughter...*
11:37 *remembers Mac has firearms*
11:37:01 *interrest goes away*
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Originally posted by Saintaw
11:36 *a sudden spike of interrest here when Mac speaks of his 23 year old eurasian daughter...*
11:37 *remembers Mac has firearms*
11:37:01 *interrest goes away*
LMAO Saintaw.
There's a BIG difference in having Daughters and Sons...
With a Son, He's the only salamander you have to worry about in Town.
With Daughters, You have to worry about EVERY salamander in Town.
My 17 year old Daughter has her first "Date" tomorrow night. I think I'll be cleaning the 'ol 12 Guage Mossberg Pump as he walks in to meet me... oh and an empty bottle of Vodka filled with water.
Empty bottle of Vodka filled with water you ask?
Yep, There's nothing that will kill a young mans hormones than to see his dates Father cleaning a shotgun and downing half a bottle of Vodka...
"When you gonna have my Daughter home Son?"
Works everytime.... That and my Daughters tellin guys that I'm crazy don't mess with him... I don't see it.
:rofl
Mac
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I remember someone here posted something along the lines of "20 rules if you want to date my daughter" ... can't seem to find it. pity :)
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Originally posted by AWMac
Yessir,
Married a Beautiful Stunning, Head turning Asian Woman.... The kind that the other guys say "Dammm what does she see in you?" HaH!!! Been married now 25 years and going strong...she's also the best Suishi Chef in Town.
And I have 3 beautiful Children...
A man who has good taste.
Asian women ROCK.
Two boys and a little girl here...too young to have accomplished much yet, but I have high hopes.
:aok
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Originally posted by Sandman
What kind of camera?
It's a Canon 20d.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Spiders are evil
ack-ack
Those little basstards are..:)..I hadn't fired up the BBQ in a couple of months and just the other day i lit it up to burn off the cobwebs & dirt..well those little critters had set up shop inside the nozzles and when i came back 5 minutes later the whole thing was ablaze in smoldering plastic.!
NIce picture though..look kinda innocent don't they?
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Originally posted by AWMac
Yessir,
Married a Beautiful Stunning, Head turning Asian Woman.... The kind that the other guys say "Dammm what does she see in you?" HaH!!! Been married now 25 years and going strong...she's also the best Suishi Chef in Town.
And I have 3 beautiful Children...
Oldest Daughter, 23, Beautiful, turned down a Congressional and Presidential appointment to West Point to advance into the Medical field. Soon to have a Full Scholorship at Baylor Medical College. Presently removing eyeballs from organ donors. Honey I only have eyes for you. LOL
My youngest Daughter,17, Just as Stunning as her Mother, is nominated for the National Honor Roll. Into Art and Science. Did I mention Tae Kwan Doe?. Presently styling in a Mitsibyatchie and working at Applebees.
My Number 1 Son, 7, is amazing at the Piano, 1st played @ 5 years old, or any musical instrument he picks up...besides he kicks my butt all the time on PS2. Can't understand why the lil girls flock around him... He's dorky. LOL...dam PS2.
My Goldie, O'Ryan is a great watchdog. Protector and Best Friend.
and my cat, Kassion champion mouse ripper 4 years straight in the State Finals.
Other than that I need to improve on my Golf swing.
and I am still a 'Klurig Språkvetare',
And you?
:D
Mac
Oh yea plenty good plenty bad. I just remember the crap storm of a time you had last year. taker easy.
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Here is one version of the rules for dating a daughter.
Ten Simple Rules for Dating My Daughter"
Some thoughtful information for those who are daughters, were daughters,
have daughters, intend to have daughters, or intend to date a daughter.
Rule One: If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be
delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.
Rule Two: You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at
her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot
keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.
Rule Three: I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your
age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off
their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your
friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about
this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your
underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object.
However, In order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off
during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric
nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.
Rule Four: I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without
utilizing a "barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate:
when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.
Rule Five: In order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about
arts, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only
information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have
my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on
this subject is "early."
Rule Six: I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities
to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my
daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will
continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make
her cry, I will make you cry.
Rule Seven: As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to
appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want
to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is
putting on her makeup, a process that can take longer than painting the
Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do
something useful, like change the oil in my car?
Rule Eight: The following places are not appropriate for a date with my
daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a
wooden stool. Places where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within
eyesight. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing,
holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm
enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or
anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka zipped up to
her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided;
movies which feature chainsaws are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old folks
homes are better.
Rule Nine: Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a pot-bellied, balding,
middle-aged, dim-witted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I
am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you
are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres
behind the house. Do not trifle with me.
Rule Ten: Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake
the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice
paddy outside of Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in
my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my
daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit your
car with both hands in plain sight. speak the perimeter password, announce
in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early,
then return to your car. There is no need for you to come inside. The
camouflaged face at the window is mine.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Oh yea plenty good plenty bad. I just remember the crap storm of a time you had last year. taker easy.
No watermelon Gun, 2004 was not a good year by any means for me....
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Originally posted by Curval
A man who has good taste.
Asian women ROCK.
Two boys and a little girl here...too young to have accomplished much yet, but I have high hopes.
:aok
Oh yea Asian women ROCK!!!
Give them time Curval and lotsa Love. They'll grow just fine.
CSN&Y couldn't have sung it any better...
Teach Your Children
You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good-bye.
Teach your children well,
Their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picks, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry,
So just look at them and sigh
and know they love you.
And you, of tender years,
Can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth,
They seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picks, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
Giving away my age again.
Mac
:D
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did you squish it after you took it's picture?
PS i looked up recluse spider bites and got this
(http://www.e-bug.net/pests/brown_recluse_spider_bite.jpg) :cry :huh :confused: :eek:
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That spider was on that web?
Are you sure?
Looks like a jumping spider to me.
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Will do Mac. :)
Those recluse spider bites can be nasty. TWICE I have been sitting at my computer and had one of my kids tell me about webs in between the wall and my display cabinet. Both times they mucked around with it and I have had to squash the spider as it was marching towards them.
Both times I have discovered it to be a brown recluse. Some moron must have brought in a plant with some eggs on it or something because they are all over the island now.
My house seems to be a great spot for them to hang out in.
BUT..both my boys have childhood asthma and even the fumigator has said that we should wait until we are going away and get the place sprayed while we are gone.
The name Recluse is actually an accurate description for the spider though...don't mess with it and it won't mess with you.
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The nasty thing about Brown Recluses and Wolf Spiders are that those little demon ****bags will actually ****in attack you!
I live in a small old carriage house way back in the woods.
So one day I'm sitting on the couch watching TV. Out of the corner of my eye, I see something brown moving cautiously towards me. Now, we have mice. Our cat does a pretty good job of cleaning them out. But occasionally, she leaves one to piss us off.
So I look over fully expecting to bat a mouse onto the floor.
IT WAS A WOLF SPIDER THE SIZE OF MY ****ING PALM! Then it charged me! It actually came after me!
You have never seen a white person move so fast in your life...
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Funny story. Was at a party. Big bellybutton wolf spider, maybe 2-3 inches across, meanders through the yard where we are all hangin around. Everyone kinda stands around looks at it. Friends dog notices and charges in, bites at it and flings it like 15 feet in the air everybody screams and runs away like little girls. I try to get the dog away from the spider, he goes to bite/fling it again, I kinda stick my foot out to block any incoming spiders, sure enough, thwack, right off the bottom of my shoe. Smashed him good after that. Funny to see 15-20 people running in fear of their lives from a spider.
Cool pic, gonna get a Digital Rebel on of these days.
g00b
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Originally posted by midnight Target
That spider was on that web?
Are you sure?
Looks like a jumping spider to me.
I can't be 100% sure it's the same spider since it was a day apart, but I'd say about 98% sure it is. The thing is only about 1/16th of an inch though, so it's hard to see with the naked eye.
The spider in pic 2 was just above the web, which is on the top of a pool fence. I took some pics of him, then he suddenly and quickly decended to the ground ( 5 feet) on a silk thread he was making or had already made.
It looked like he was making the web as he went down, but he was so fast....... I wasn't sure if they could spin a thread that fast. Anyway, for sure he had a thread about 5 feet long trailing behind him.
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Whimpy little spider!
We grow these things in my yard as big as my hand.
(though I think that most didn't survive the chemical warfair my wife put to them last year. Not to many this year.)
(http://www.floridanature.org/photos/Argiope_aurantia_1a,_Tallahassee,_200009.jpg)
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Clifra, we used to call those "Bannana Spiders" when I was growing up. I've seen them out in the woods with webs between trees and the spider big enough to spread across a 12 yo's face. Harmless enough, but damn they look scary dont they? :)
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Originally posted by RightF00T
Eddie Murphy gave him a ride home one night...tell em the rest MAC
Okay...I ran outta gas one night, checked the trunk and found an old empty gas can. Dammm, it's starting to rain a bit. Been 2 hours since I've seen a car come by.
In the distance I see lights approaching..with luck I might just get a ride now to the nearest Gas Station...
The car stops and I can't believe it, It's frikken Eddie Murphy. He says "Jump on in Hehhh Hehhh Ehhh..." He fires up a Doob..Radio playin great stuff, Gladys Knight and the Pips, Supremes, Aretha Franklin and we're groovin.. windows down, catchin fresh air.
So here I am with Eddie Murphy thinking "Wow, I might have a Chance at getting into HollyWood"...So we're driving and talkin watermelon and we see a Hitchhiker up ahead.... Lo and Behold it's RightFoot.
Eddie is actin strange, it's makin me nervous, think it was the White Powder around the nostrils was a dead give away.
So I tell Eddie slow down, he gets wide eye'd.. sayin "okay, okay...I'm okay..."
Then at the last minute he floors it and swerves towards RightFoot... he closes his eyes and THUMP!!!!
Back on the road Eddie looks at me sweatin..."Did I hit em, Ohhh Lord tell me I didn Hit him..." I told Eddie "Dude ease up you didi't hit RightFoot..." "But I nailed his arse GOOD with the Gas Can..." We laffed and sang a verse of "Roxanne..."
Eddie dropped me off at my place and promised to have my car brought to me in the morning.
Haven't seen RightFoot since then, been pickin his scalp off a dented gas can though...
(http://www.coolbuddy.com/icon/mceleb/ico_eddie_murphy09.gif)
Open yer Mouth and you Shall Recieve RightFoot.
:rofl
Mac
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Thats a beautiful picture Nuke.
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Originally posted by NUKE
I can't be 100% sure it's the same spider since it was a day apart, but I'd say about 98% sure it is. The thing is only about 1/16th of an inch though, so it's hard to see with the naked eye.
The spider in pic 2 was just above the web, which is on the top of a pool fence. I took some pics of him, then he suddenly and quickly decended to the ground ( 5 feet) on a silk thread he was making or had already made.
It looked like he was making the web as he went down, but he was so fast....... I wasn't sure if they could spin a thread that fast. Anyway, for sure he had a thread about 5 feet long trailing behind him.
I would bet the rent money that you have 2 different spiders there. The close up is a jumping spider (forget the genus, but it starts with an 'S'). They do not use webs to catch food, although they do have web spinning ability.
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Best thing I ever seen close up was when I lived in San Diego. I was 12 and running thru the canyons with buddies ...came across a Killer asss wasp in battle with a Trantcula..we watch for a good 30 minutes...The Wasp won.
It was narley, talk of the neihbourhood for weeks.
Gosh these were times when we as kids could stay out all day and as long as we were home before the street lights came on we were okay.
Now we worry every hour where our children are...
Times have Changed...
:(
Mac
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Tarantual wasps are baddddassssss!
They always win (well almost).
(http://www.rshantz.com/Animals/Insects/Wasps/20031008THawk04N.jpg)
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Mac, that was a tarantcula hawk. I used to catch them, and a couple of tarantulas when I was a kid.
Mean looking big black wasp that kills big-ass spiders.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Tarantual wasps are baddddassssss!
They always win (well almost).
(http://www.rshantz.com/Animals/Insects/Wasps/20031008THawk04N.jpg)
Man THAT is IT!!! Picture about 4 12 year olds in '68 coming across this battle... better than cartoons!!!!
Mac
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You should read about what happens to the poor spider after the wasp paralysis it.
Also, you don't want to get stung by one.
"Tarantula hawk stings are considered to be the most painful of any North American insect. Christopher Starr wrote an article entitled, "A Pain Scale for Bee, Wasp and Ant Stings." On a scale of one to four, Pepsis formosa was one of only two insects to rate a four. This compares with a one for a Solenopsis xyloni (desert fire ant), two for a Apis mellifera (honey bee) and three for a Dasymutilla klugii (velvet ant).
One researcher described the tarantula hawk’s sting this way: "To me, the pain is like an electric wand that hits you, inducing an immediate, excruciating pain that simply shuts down one’s ability to do anything, except, perhaps, scream. Mental discipline simply does not work in these situations. The pain for me lasted only about three minutes, during which time the sting area was insensitive to touch, i.e., a pencil point poked near the sting resulted only in a dull deep pressure pain."
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Originally posted by NUKE
Mac, that was a tarantcula hawk. I used to catch them, and a couple of tarantulas when I was a kid.
Mean looking big black wasp that kills big-ass spiders.
Yea the trancula hawk... man it was sooo kewl as a kid to see a "Mutha Nature" Battle to Death like that. I'm extremely allergic to Bee and Wasp stings so I didn't mess with them.
In '95 a wasp sting on the forehead about killed me. 45 mins after the sting I was in the Hospital, head swollen my eyes shut and throat was collapsing... BTW I drove myself to the Hospital... I knew what was about to happen.
I was out of it for 3 days. frikken wasps and bees.
Spiders tear me up and snake bites but not as bad as wasps and bees.
Chit, so now I'm expectin wasps and bees in my mailbox? LOL I've moved...twice.. and I don't live here where I'm typing from...this is a Library Puter......In Finnland!
~Sweatin~
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
LMAO Saintaw.
There's a BIG difference in having Daughters and Sons...
With a Son, He's the only salamander you have to worry about in Town.
With Daughters, You have to worry about EVERY salamander in Town.
My 17 year old Daughter has her first "Date" tomorrow night. I think I'll be cleaning the 'ol 12 Guage Mossberg Pump as he walks in to meet me... oh and an empty bottle of Vodka filled with water.
Mac
Oh.. Your not adding me now? :( WE SIGNED A AGREEMENT! :cry
And... shes not dating me? :confused:
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/42/amisha.gif)
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Originally posted by Sp4de
Oh.. Your not adding me now? :( WE SIGNED A AGREEMENT! :cry
And... shes not dating me? :confused:
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/42/amisha.gif)
Sp4de I'll adopt you.... as long as you are not gun shy, and fetch a Friesbee in air, have a cold nose and at my Command hump shins of women at my direction... If you return with Bikini bottoms, yer in like Flint!
BTW Must send a pic of F00Bs Mom.
:D
Mac
Ifluff'n yer talkin about my 23 year old Daughter, beware Son. She removes eyeballs from Organ Donors... Now I know yer not thinkin of doing a "Hey Babe I give this "Organ" to you kinda thing... she'd kill ya and rip out yer eyes... I taught her well.
But if yer talking about my 17 year old Daughter..LOL Go for it. She's HOT, Sweet and looks like Candy. 2nd Degree Black Belt... Hell she'll not kill you, just maim you and let you live.
This is what I raised... knowing that someday I'd be weak and feable and in a Bar, some young stunninghunk wants to kick my arse over nothing but a discussion. Then I call in my "Power Puff" Girls.
But anyhow, I still need the Jeep washed and the pool cleaned... I can maybe hook you up with some School Cheerleaders that hate my Daughters.... Deal?
Mac
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(http://img63.exs.cx/img63/9272/768_Morgan_Webb_03.jpg)
morgan webb...
I mean.. Foob webb
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Originally posted by AWMac
Man THAT is IT!!! Picture about 4 12 year olds in '68 coming across this battle... better than cartoons!!!!
Mac
not better than Jonny Quest!!!
(http://www.classicjq.com/images/DougWildeyMontage_frontpage.jpg)
:)
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(http://aido.furvect.com/images/otakonpics/otakon03/IMG_1442capnplanet.jpg)FOOBKAKKE...n Planet!! (http://www.turner.com/planet/mp3/cp_close.mp3)
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Originally posted by Sp4de
FOOBKAKKE....n! PLANET! (http://)
(http://aido.furvect.com/images/otakonpics/otakon03/IMG_1442capnplanet.jpg)
More like "Planet Out" Ghey...is that really F00B?
More pics of his Mom... It's for a Major Pych course...tottally Professional. I wouldn't ask if it wasn't.
Mac
soon maybe to be yer Mac Daddy.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Eagler
not better than Jonny Quest!!!
(http://www.classicjq.com/images/DougWildeyMontage_frontpage.jpg)
:)
Great... really loved that Cartoon... Bet you were really fond of Hadji huh Eagler? LOL J/K ..Man Cartoons on a Saturday in the late '60's were awesome... Bugs Bunny, Road Runner, Wile E. Coyote. The Super Heros...Total Classics.... Now a days you have BS Jap Robot crap.
Give me back Early America!!!
Mac
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My brother and I used to get up early on saturday just to watch Johnny Quest.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I would bet the rent money that you have 2 different spiders there. The close up is a jumping spider (forget the genus, but it starts with an 'S'). They do not use webs to catch food, although they do have web spinning ability.
I'm not sure MT, but I have since looked up jumping spiders, and none that I have found look like the one in my pic. Mostly, jumping spiders have very a distinctive set of eight eyes....this one doesn't really look like any I have found on the "web", pun intended.
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Spiders hunt.
Spiders will wait.
Spiders will attack.
Spiders hold Grudges.
Spiders will Revenge the Death of others...
Spiders will attack and then come back....
Spiders live in Tunnels....
Spiders grow huge...
Spiders have no Love.
Spiders are the Spawn of Satan...
Spiders are Evil!
I know....
Mac
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Originally posted by NUKE
I'm not sure MT, but I have since looked up jumping spiders, and none that I have found look like the one in my pic. Mostly, jumping spiders have very a distinctive set of eight eyes....this one doesn't really look like any I have found on the "web", pun intended.
Its a jumping Spider.
http://tolweb.org/accessory/NA_Jumping_Spiders:_Sidusa?acc_id=2147
You got a side view of one of his big eyes.
(http://tolweb.org/tree/ToLimages/sidusa.gif)
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Thats for sure a jumping spider in your 2nd pic nuke. My house/yard is overrun with them..the exact same color and pattern. I love those little guys..Harmless, you can hold em in your hand.
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It looks similar, but not the same. My spider has what looks like a snout right in front with one big eye on it in the middle, in addition to the eye on the side. Other than those eyes, none are apparent in the front.
Also, it's front section was a lot smaller than the back.
It was on a pool fence with no vegitation around, just dirt. He was at the top of the fence right at the edge of the web, then he spun a web down the fence, which looked just like the web he was near. Also, he was the same size and color as the one in the web.... very, very small.
I first saw the web, then got my camera to take a picture of the web. I then saw the spider right above the web, but no other spider was in the web.
I have a higher resolution picture of it where you can see his eyes better.
The spider in my pick has two grabbers/claws (don't know the term) between it's 1st and second legs on each side, and they are almost as long as the legs themselves. The jumping spider pic has the two smaller claws right in the front, not between it's legs.
From above, the spider in my pic has legs do that not extend very far past it's body .....it was almost round looking from above.
I'm almost 100% sure it's the same spider that was in the web. Are any web dwelling spiders similar looking?
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Originally posted by AWMac
Oldest Daughter, 23, Beautiful, turned down a Congressional and Presidential appointment to West Point to advance into the Medical field. Soon to have a Full Scholorship at Baylor Medical College. Presently removing eyeballs from organ donors. Honey I only have eyes for you. LOL
Mac
So she's coming to Texas you say?:D
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
(http://www.floridanature.org/photos/Argiope_aurantia_1a,_Tallahassee,_200009.jpg)
I would spend the better parts of my younger days feeding these suckers grasshoppers. Good times:aok