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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pieper on November 19, 2005, 01:03:09 AM
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I want my old SpitV back.
I feel I t is unfair to take a plane I have flown for Three years and cut it in half.
The new Spits are nice but do not compare to the old MKV.
If we are going to revert my plane back to 1941......Then why dont we revert everyone elses back to the same date?????????????
Pieper
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I have to say Im happy about it. Im sure its lousy if that was your plane. But atleast now part of its setup is reduced by way of ammo load. Now if we can do something about the LA7, NiK, and the Typh we'll be golden.
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That's some really, really bad bait... lol.
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The Old spitfire 5 (with +16 boost) was reverted back to 1941 specifications (+12 boost) because the old spitfire 5 from last version uses 1942 specifications... In short,, previous spit 5 version was placed to mid-war plane category and now it is placed back to early-war category (and thats where it should be!)
By the way sooo many people lobbied for Suggested, complete Spitfire lineup for Aces High and here's how they brreak it down...
1940:
Spitfire Mk Ia
1941
Spitfire Mk Vb
1942
Spitfire Mk. IX
1943
Spitfire LF Mk. VIII
1944-1945
Spitfire F.Mk XIV
Spitfire LF.Mk XVI
now that's the complete spitfire lineup :)
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Originally posted by Pieper
I want my old SpitV back.
I feel I t is unfair to take a plane I have flown for Three years and cut it in half.
The new Spits are nice but do not compare to the old MKV.
If we are going to revert my plane back to 1941......Then why dont we revert everyone elses back to the same date?????????????
Pieper
LOL the Bf-109s were hit hard in this version, why? Because...
109E-4
* REMOVED centre 250kg bomb option
109F-4
* REMOVED centre 250kg bomb option
* REMOVED wing mounted 20mm GONDOLAS option
109G-6
* REMOVED 30mm hub cannon option
109G-10
* REMOVED FROM ACES HIGH LINEUP
109K-4
* The old 109G-10 lives on as 109K-4 BUT 109K-4 does not have wing gondolas!
late ware model 109s such as the 109K-4 were hit hard...
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SpitV is still a killer. Love it.
If you want a replacement of the old 5.... fly IIc or VIII.
*thrashesaboutabitonthehook*
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Originally posted by 1K3
The Old spitfire 5 (with +16 boost) was reverted back to 1941 specifications (+12 boost) because the old spitfire 5 from last version uses 1942 specifications... In short,, previous spit 5 version was placed to mid-war plane category and now it is placed back to early-war category (and thats where it should be!)
By the way sooo many people lobbied for Suggested, complete Spitfire lineup for Aces High and here's how they brreak it down...
1940:
Spitfire Mk Ia
1941
Spitfire Mk Vb
1942
Spitfire Mk. IX
1943
Spitfire LF Mk. VIII
1944-1945
Spitfire F.Mk XIV
Spitfire LF.Mk XVI
now that's the complete spitfire lineup :)
Erm....
Spit XVI and XIV are 1944, dunno where you get 1945 from. RAF currently has no 1945 planes.
XIV is mid 1944, XVI is late 1944.
The suggested lineup had the XVI at 1945 only if it had 25lbs boost.
Schatzi - Dunno why, but the Seafire IIc is also at 12lbs, that SHOULD be 16.
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Originally posted by 1K3
LOL the Bf-109s were hit hard in this version, why? Because...
109E-4
* REMOVED centre 250kg bomb option
109F-4
* REMOVED centre 250kg bomb option
* REMOVED wing mounted 20mm GONDOLAS option
109G-6
* REMOVED 30mm hub cannon option
109G-10
* REMOVED FROM ACES HIGH LINEUP
109K-4
* The old 109G-10 lives on as 109K-4 BUT 109K-4 does not have wing gondolas!
late ware model 109s such as the 109K-4 were hit hard...
You forgot that the front view was drasticaly reduced, and you can't look over the nose as much as you used to.
The darn things turn like lumber wagons now also.
I just gave up on them last night. I think it will be the 190A8 for attacking bases (30mm gun option until HT takes it away), the Dora for when I need to stay alive, and the Spit16 for when I want to stay alive and get some kills.
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
You forgot that the front view was drasticaly reduced, and you can't look over the nose as much as you used to.
The front view is horrid now, especially in the g6/14, but also in the K4. Why when LW planes get redone the cockpit bars have to balloon is beyond me. The Spit's bars are tiny, making the foreward very unobstructed. Even the 109F isn't that bad, but how the bars basically double in width from the F to the G series is beyond me. I seriously doubt there was that much difference in the two inreal life, besides the improved rear view.
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imo 109 front view is better than 190s but what i dont like about 109 is the narrow view from the windshield.
109 is the smallest fighter in europe durring ww2
:)
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Originally posted by Stang
The front view is horrid now, especially in the g6/14, but also in the K4. Why when LW planes get redone the cockpit bars have to balloon is beyond me. The Spit's bars are tiny, making the foreward very unobstructed. Even the 109F isn't that bad, but how the bars basically double in width from the F to the G series is beyond me. I seriously doubt there was that much difference in the two inreal life, besides the improved rear view.
Good point, the 190s also had the bars balloon when they were reworked. I flew the 190A8 until HT reworked it, so I started looking for a new plane, so I switched to the 109F4 and G6. Now that he has "reworked" the 109s...
Hell I don't know...
I really have tried to fly something in here besides LA's and Spits...
Maybe I just have to give up, go to a Spit or a LA, and give it a rest.
The quest for a decent fighter that ain't a spit or lala is best left for those who are better pilots than I am.
Last night I boomed a LA7 in a G14 (with only the 30mm no gondies), and next thing we went round and round about 2 times, he had went vertical, reversed, and hit my engine for a oil leak. Proably Shane, no one ever did that in the old G6, and I usually flew that with gondies. I took it home, and landed it in disgust.
That was probably my last fight in a 109.
I think HT wants us all in Spits and LA LA's.
So be it
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Originally posted by 1K3
109 is the smallest fighter in europe durring ww2
Not even close. :)
Compare it's size to a I-16 or I-15 for example.
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
Last night I boomed a LA7 in a G14 (with only the 30mm no gondies), and next thing we went round and round about 2 times, he had went vertical, reversed, and hit my engine for a oil leak. Proably Shane, no one ever did that in the old G6, and I usually flew that with gondies. I took it home, and landed it in disgust.
yeah that was probably me, but then i fly an la7 like nobody. :aok
i do agree the 109 series got the short end of the stick in the latest version.:furious
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Originally posted by Wmaker
Not even close. :)
Compare it's size to a I-16 or I-15 for example.
its Europe, NOT Russia
109 is the smallest fighter in action in europe
:)
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the old spit5 might have been made a bit more real but you cant complain......from the plane everyone hated in ah1, to the plane with almost the most varients available cant be something spitheads dont like?
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Most variants yes, but for one reason -
It was the RAFs main fighter all the way through the war.
Its opponents were 109s AND 190s not one or the other.
So add the total 109s and 190s together, doesn't look so bad (or good depending on point of view) for the Spits now, does it?
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Originally posted by Shane
yeah that was probably me, but then i fly an la7 like nobody. :aok
i do agree the 109 series got the short end of the stick in the latest version.:furious
I'd love to learn how to fly like that, :)
I just don't seem to be able to make the "snap" at the top of a vertical roll.
I've tried combat trim off, lots of up elevator, cutting engine, turning engine off, rudder, no rudder, flaps, no flaps.
I just suck at this game :(
But I do a decent drive by shooting :)
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Dunno why, but the Seafire IIc is also at 12lbs, that SHOULD be 16.
Because at 12+ boost and 240 rnds of 20mm it can be used as a standin for the Vc in scenarios and the CT. Yeah, its a little heavier, but its close enough. If it was at 16+ then it makes the IX redundant just like the old 16+ Vc did. The IIc as it is makes a nice bridge between the Vb and the IX.
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Originally posted by 1K3
its Europe, NOT Russia
109 is the smallest fighter in action in europe
Maybe you should check your maps again... After you've located Moscow on those, can you really say that I-16's (plus I-15, I-15bis, I-153 and whatnots) were not used in Europe?
:)
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
I'd love to learn how to fly like that, :)
I just don't seem to be able to make the "snap" at the top of a vertical roll.
I've tried combat trim off, lots of up elevator, cutting engine, turning engine off, rudder, no rudder, flaps, no flaps.
I just suck at this game :(
But I do a decent drive by shooting :)
well i have a standing offer that bears repeating... feel free to switch sides and use join for a few sorties before you log. doesn't even have to be me per se, ask any stick you know who can make a certain plane dance.
while some things can be taught via TA/DA, the MA has more variables and riding along will give you some insight to how someone like myself sees, thinks and reacts to an encounter. the ability to anticipate cannot be under-rated.
in the end, it's all about one's accumulated experiences. i'm not a technical flyer per se, i'm seat of the pants. badboy did a neat write up on some OODA thingy in the training forum under a spit subject - "new spitfire comparison". Here's an excerpt from it:
{Badboy}
Ok, here is an extract from part one of my series of lectures on the OODA loop.
The OODA loop was originated a number of years ago by a USAF fighter pilot and highly thought of tactician Colonel John Boyd. His OODA loop stands for Observe, Orient, Decide, and Act...this being the decision process that a pilot goes through in solving any given BFM problem during an engagement. For example, if you see you opponent change his flight path with an aileron roll, you are in the “Observe” phase of the loop. You then need to comprehend what effect your opponents changes will have on the situation, so now you are in the “Orient” phase. Now you need to make a decision from the many options available, and while doing that you are in the “Decide” phase. Finally, you need to execute that decision with a manoeuvre of your own, so you are in the “Act” phase of the loop, and so it continues.
When I teach this to flight sim’ pilots I prefer to call it the "Boyd Cycle" (when I call it the Boyd loop, some folk expect it to involve a loop manoeuvre) and I explain that the pilot who consistently completes the cycle faster gains an advantage that increases with each cycle. Because the gains are additive the slower pilot becomes increasingly slower by comparison and therefore less effective until, finally, he is overcome by events....
blah blah blah (but interesting blah blah blah)
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Originally posted by Pieper
I want my old SpitV back.
I feel I t is unfair to take a plane I have flown for Three years and cut it in half.
The new Spits are nice but do not compare to the old MKV.
If we are going to revert my plane back to 1941......Then why dont we revert everyone elses back to the same date?????????????
Pieper
SEAFIRE!
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Originally posted by Shane
well i have a standing offer that bears repeating... feel free to switch sides and use join for a few sorties before you log. doesn't even have to be me per se, ask any stick you know who can make a certain plane dance.
I will try and take you up on that kind offer, thanks :)
And :aok