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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Airscrew on November 22, 2005, 12:30:44 PM
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TAMPA, Fla. - A female teacher pleaded guilty Tuesday to having sex with a 14-year-old student, avoiding prison as part of a plea agreement.
Debra Lafave, 25, whose sensational case made tabloid headlines, will serve three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery.
The former Greco Middle School reading teacher apologized during the hearing, saying "I accept full responsibility for my actions."
The boy told investigators the two had sex in a classroom at the Greco school, located in Temple Terrace near Tampa, in her Riverview town house and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove them around Marion County.
The boy told investigators Lafave told him her marriage was in trouble and that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allowed. He said he and Lafave, a newlywed at the time, got to know each other on their way back from a class trip to SeaWorld Orlando in May 2004.
If convicted at trial, she could have faced up to 15 years in prison on each count. The plea agreement also was designed to resolve similar charges pending in Marion County.
Hillsborough Circuit Judge Wayne Timmerman said LaFave also will forever lose her teaching certificate, must register with the state as a sexual predator, may not have any contact with children including the victim, and will not be allowed to profit from the sale of her story or personal appearances.
Prosecutor Michael Sinacore said the young victim's family wanted to get the case over with because of the intense public and media scrutiny.
"We're happy that the victim's family can put this case behind them," he said. "The whole process has been very difficult, and we hope they can now resume their lives."
After Tuesday's hearing, her attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said the plea was "a fair resolution of this case." Asked how she felt afterward, Lafave said "tired."
Fitzgibbons said in July that plea negotiations had broken off because prosecutors insisted on prison time, which he said would be too dangerous for someone as attractive as Lafave. He said then that she planned to plead insanity at trial, claiming emotional stress kept her from knowing right from wrong.
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her mug (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Debra%20Lafave&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&tab=wi)
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I've always said I far too small, good looking and white to go to jail. I'd be passed around the bull queers for a few smokes and they'd be lovin me from dawn until dusk.
Not sure the judge would be symapthetic though.
But, on this particular subject, how did the kid's 15 year old friend manage to drive around while looking in the rear view mirror?
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Originally posted by MajTom
Fitzgibbons said in July that plea negotiations had broken off because prosecutors insisted on prison time, which he said would be too dangerous for someone as attractive as Lafave.
I agree. Keep her in the dating pool for us.
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/184398/2_24_112205_teacher_sex2.jpg)
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hmm...they also have one of those "eeek!" shots...
(http://anekdota.dyndns.org/jotd26/att-0029/02-snaps_23-year-old-teacher_debra-lafave.jpg)
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i bet the 14 year old didn't complain....
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I'm betting this 43 year old wouldn't either!:p
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Originally posted by Saintaw
hmm...they also have one of those "eeek!" shots...
Which one is the "eeek!" shot? They all look good to me.
Had a teacher in HS that looked as good as her. If she would ever have wanted to I'd have been willing. I would have kept it quiet tho, I wouldnt have wanted the ride to end!
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Originally posted by Furball
i bet the 14 year old didn't complain....
nope it's amazing the double standard in this country. Heck at 14 I wouldn't have felt victimized if she was my teacher and she "lewd and lasciviously battered" me a few times.
BUT, If a 20 or 30 something year old male teacher had sex with a 14 year old girl......you'd bet your arse he'd be doing hard time somewhere.
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That double-standard isn't specific to the US.
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id hit it:O
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So does she have to register as a sex offender?
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When I was 14 I was trying to be Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Nailing my teacher was like, 7th on the list.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
So does she have to register as a sex offender?
Who cares. I'd hire her anyway.
Chit I'd even let her babysit my teenage son when he was 14.
Had he been able to tag that he wouldnt have gotten an "oh my god" but a
"thats my boy"
Now if it were a male teacher and my daughter there isnt a jail cell on the planet secure enough to keep me from getting to him and castrating him with a rusty butter knife.
Double standard.
You bet yer arse LOL
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Who cares. I'd hire her anyway.
Chit I'd even let her babysit my teenage son when he was 14.
Had he been able to tag that he wouldnt have gotten an "oh my god" but a
"thats my boy"
Now if it were a male teacher and my daughter there isnt a jail cell on the planet secure enough to keep me from getting to him and castrating him with a rusty butter knife.
Double standard.
You bet yer arse LOL
LOL that's funny :rofl :aok
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Since this is here, I'll bring out the rule book..
THE RULES...
1. New Rule: Stop giving me that pop-up ad for Classmates.com! There's a reason you don't talk to people for 25 years. Because you don't particularly like them! Besides, I already know what the captain of the football team is doing these days: mowing my lawn.
2. New Rule: Don't eat anything that's served to you out a window unless you're a seagull. People are acting all shocked that a human finger was found in a bowl of Wendy's chili. Hey, it cost less than a dollar. What did you expect it to contain? Trout? Luckily , it was only a finger! If it was a whole hand, Congress would have voted to keep it alive.
3. New Rule: Stop saying that teenage boys who have s*x with their hot, blonde teachers are permanently damaged. I have a better description for these kids: lucky b@stards.
4. New Rule: If you need to shave and you still collect baseball cards, you're gay. If you're a kid, the cards are keepsakes of your idols. If you're a grown man, they're pictures of men.
5. New Rule: Ladies, leave your eyebrows alone. Here's how much men care about your eyebrows: do you have two of them? Okay, we're done.
6. New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket, water, but without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink. You want flavored water? Pour some scotch over ice and let it melt. That's your flavored water.
7. New Rule: Stop f***ing with old people. Target is introducing a redesigned pill bottle that's square, with a bigger label. And the top is now the bottom. And by the time grandpa figures out how to open it, his prettythang will be in the morgue. Congratulations, Target, you just solved the Social Security crisis.
8. New Rule: The more complicated the Starbucks order, the bigger the prettythanghole. If you walk into a Starbucks and order a "decaf grande half-soy, half-low fat, iced vanilla, double-shot, gingerbread cappuccino, extra dry, light ice, with one Sweet-n'-Low and one NutraSweet," ooh, you're a huge prettythanghole. (Don't know no body that goes to Starbucks anyway).
9. New Rule: I'm not the cashier! By the time I look up from sliding my card, entering my PIN number, pressing "Enter," verifying the amount, deciding, no, I don't want cash back, and pressing "Enter" again, the kid who is supposed to be ringing me up is standing there eating my Snickers bar. Paper, plastic? I don't have time for that. I've just been called to do a cleanup on Aisle Nine!
10. New Rule: Just because your tattoo has Chinese characters in it doesn't make you spiritual. It's right above the crack of you're prettythang. And it translates to "beef with broccoli." The last time you did anything spiritual, you were praying to God you weren't pregnant. You're not spiritual. You're just high.
11. New Rule: Competitive eating isn't a sport. It's one of the seven deadly sins. ESPN recently televised the US Open of Competitive Eating, because watching those athletes at the poker table was just too d@mned exciting. What's next, competitive farting? Oh wait. They're already doing that. It's called "The Howard Stern Show."
12. New Rule: I don't need a bigger mega M&M. If I'm extra hungry for M&Ms, I'll go nuts and eat two.
13. New Rule: No more gift registries. You know, it used to be just for weddings. Now it's for babies and new homes and graduations from rehab. Picking out the stuff you want and having other people buy it for you isn't gift giving, it's the white people version of looting.
14. New Rule, and this one is long overdue: No more bathroom attendants. After I zip up, some guy is offering me a towel and a mint like I just had s*x with George Michael. I can't even tell if he's supposed to be there, or just some freak with a fetish. I don't want to be on your web cam, dude. I just want to wash my hands.
15. New Rule: When I ask how old your toddler is, I don't need to know in months. "27 Months." "He's two," will do just fine. He's not a cheese. And I didn't care in the first place.
16. New Rule: If you're going to insist on making movies based on crappy, old television shows, then you have to give everyone in the Cineplex a remote so we can see what's playing on the other screens. Let's remember the reason something was a television show in the first place is the idea wasn't good enough to be a movie.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Who cares. I'd hire her anyway.
Chit I'd even let her babysit my teenage son when he was 14.
Had he been able to tag that he wouldnt have gotten an "oh my god" but a
"thats my boy"
Now if it were a male teacher and my daughter there isnt a jail cell on the planet secure enough to keep me from getting to him and castrating him with a rusty butter knife.
Double standard.
You bet yer arse LOL
feeble minded inferior being...
registery.
Somewhere where someone registers their ADDRESS.
Noob. Its a wonder you're not still a virgin.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
feeble minded inferior being...
registery.
Somewhere where someone registers their ADDRESS.
Noob. Its a wonder you're not still a virgin.
Speak for yourself.
I fully know what a registery is.
Aside from having to register as a sex offender wherever she moves to she will also now have to report it on any job application that requires it.
hence, who cares.
I'd hire her anyway
And your damn right I have a double standard between my son and my daughter
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guns... the rules are different because men and women are different.
lazs
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yup I'd agree with it to a point.
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So Justice isn't blind? :cool:
So it would appear that in this judge's courtroom, Hillsborough Circuit Judge Wayne Timmerman, if you're female, young and pretty, you get a lenient sentence. I wonder what his sentencing record is like for similar crimes.
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I would venture to guess that the prosecution made a plea because they would have a tough time proving the case if the "victom"/"teenage legand" refused to testify.
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only 3 words belong in this thread
Giggidy
Giggidy
Gig-Gi-Dy!
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I don't believe justice should be blind when it comes to gender.
neither should the rest of us.
lazs
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It should be legal for the woman's husband to beat the crap out of the kid because it's wrong to sleep with another man's wife and 14 is plenty old enough to know that.
And the woman should be thrown in jail for being such a low-standard potato that she had to resort to banging a kid that young.
That's merely how the laws should be...sadly, what the laws actually are is another matter.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by J_A_B
It should be legal for the woman's husband to beat the crap out of the kid because it's wrong to sleep with another man's wife and 14 is plenty old enough to know that.
And the woman should be thrown in jail for being such a low-standard potato that she had to resort to banging a kid that young.
That's merely how the laws should be...sadly, what the laws actually are is another matter.
J_A_B
If your spouce cheats on you who is really to blame?
Your spouce for cheating?
Or the one she/he cheated with?
Reminds me of a customer I have whom I've gotten pretty friendly with over the years.
The wife is a drop dead knockout.
Anyway. One day when we were joking around and teasing one another he said "Can I trust you alone with my wife?"
I responded. The question isnt if you can trust me but if you can trust her.
Without her consent it doesnt matter if you can trust me or not.
But I have to be honest with you. While I know its been very difficult for her. She has shown remarkable restraint when around me...so far:D
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"If your spouce cheats on you who is really to blame?"
Both of them.
"But I have to be honest with you. While I know its been very difficult for her. She has shown remarkable restraint when around me...so far"
:D
J_A_B
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And possibly yourself for failing to keep your spouce satisfied to begin with.;)
And what if the other person didnt know he/she was married.
Thats not exactly unheard of
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
And possibly yourself for failing to keep your spouce satisfied to begin with.;)
And what if the other person didnt know he/she was married.
Thats not exactly unheard of
BULL ***** Some woman you just CANT satisfy.....and I"m talking PHysically, emotionally, sexually, financially, and anything else she thinks just isn't good enough that she needs to be a hag and complain about. :cool:
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"And possibly yourself for failing to keep your spouce satisfied to begin with."
Negative--that's what divorce is for. If your spouse is a lunatic whom you're afraid to divorce, then you have bigger problems then sex. There is no excuse to cheat on your spouse.
"And what if the other person didnt know he/she was married."
It's your job to know; if you don't know, don't hop in the sack. "I didn't know" won't make an STD go away, and nor does it make it okay to sleep with a married man/woman. There ARE married couples out there who let each other sleep around and don't mind. That's perfectly fine then, and is pretty much the only time when it's okay to sleep with a married person. It's still be prudent to talk to the spouse beforehand though, just to be on the safe side.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by J_A_B
"And possibly yourself for failing to keep your spouce satisfied to begin with."
Negative--that's what divorce is for. If your spouse is a lunatic whom you're afraid to divorce, then you have bigger problems then sex. There is no excuse to cheat on your spouse.
"And what if the other person didnt know he/she was married."
It's your job to know; if you don't know, don't hop in the sack. "I didn't know" won't make an STD go away, and nor does it make it okay to sleep with a married man/woman. There ARE married couples out there who let each other sleep around and don't mind. That's perfectly fine then, and is pretty much the only time when it's okay to sleep with a married person. It's still be prudent to talk to the spouse beforehand though, just to be on the safe side.
J_A_B
LMAO, your funny. I used to have such simplistic thoughts and beleifs long ago before I knew better.
Just get a divorce, just like that. Snap your fingers and its done.
Too bad its not that simple or alot more would probably do it instead of cheating.
I havent done any of these things of which you speak.
I've neither cheated on my wife, nor have I had my wife cheat. Nor have I slept with another mans wife. Nor have I ever been in a polyamorous relationship ( the term used by couples who let their partners mess around on the side)
But I do see the world in a more realistic manner then I did back in the days when I thought and felt as you do.
I can see and understand how and why someone would cheat, and why they would do it and not get or want to get a divorce.
And how someone could be with someone who was married and not know they were married.
Its done all the time.
now Im not saying its right. Nor am I saying its wrong.
That is for each individual to decide for themselves based on their own personal situation.
For me personally, I havent. Though the opportunity,temptation and reasons have certainly been there and on occasion been there all all at the same time.
I just havent because to date it just isnt for me.
Its just "Not my thing" and all that.
I only say "to date" because I've learned a long long time ago not to assume something would never happen.
But I certainly understand it even if I find its not for me
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"Just get a divorce, just like that. Snap your fingers and its done.
Too bad its not that simple or alot more would probably do it instead of cheating."
Given the overall divorce rate, I'm not sure how much higher you think it can realistically go. People don't avoid divorce because it's difficult to obtain one; they avoid divorce because they want to maintain their comfy homes and "secure" lives while getting extra action on the side. In otherwords, people suck and like to take the "easy" way out. It's totally understandable, but wrong nonetheless.
"I havent done any of these things of which you speak."
"I can see and understand how and why someone would cheat"
So do I. That doesn't make it right, though. I don't buy into the modern fad of moral relativity. The word "you" as I use it in the above posts isn't necessarily referring to you specifically. My views on this issue are pretty simple because it's a simple issue. It's black and white--there is no grey area. I don't invent grey areas where none exists.
"And how someone could be with someone who was married and not know they were married."
Again, I know how this happens too, but merely understanding why it happens doesn't make it right . That behavior is wrong, even if it's understandable.
J_A_B