Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: mussie on November 26, 2005, 11:34:04 AM

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: mussie on November 26, 2005, 11:34:04 AM

I know the waco glider was used to carry jeeps and such, but I was wondering if there was any sort of Heavy Airlifting done in WWII

Light tanks, AA ect

If there was can someone tell me which Aircraft

Thanks

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Bodhi on November 26, 2005, 12:25:28 PM

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/me323.html

The Me 323 would cover this on the German side.

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Furball on November 26, 2005, 12:50:31 PM

Arado 232 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arado_Ar_232)

(http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_005/Arado%20Ar%20232B-O%20%204%20engined%20transport%20-%201943.jpg)

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: mussie on November 26, 2005, 01:15:17 PM

Ok so from what I can see the 323 was the only thing to carry vehicles.

(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg1729.jpg)

Be a nice touch if we could do somthing like that.... not very practical in the MA I suppose though...


Thanks Furby and Bodhi

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Hoarach on November 26, 2005, 01:16:19 PM

If I remember right, werent we able to put tanks on the bottom of 17s in AW?

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: mussie on November 26, 2005, 01:23:23 PM

Quote

put tanks on the bottom of 17s in AW?

:confused:

Ok I am no expert on WWII, But I thought I knew my B17's

Since when were they used to move tanks, if they could lift them which I doubt.....  

And here I thought AW was a Sim

 :p

I am taking the Pi$$ here ppl

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Furball on November 26, 2005, 04:34:17 PM

Quote

Originally posted by mussie
Ok so from what I can see the 323 was the only thing to carry vehicles.
 

you could load vehicles into the Arado, it had a rear ramp like a modern transport aircraft.  not sure the max load capacity of it, i have read 18,000lb on the 4 engined version - seems a little high.. i have read a lot of conflicting numbers.

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: gripen on November 26, 2005, 04:47:43 PM

IIRC the Hamilcar (http://www.pointvista.com/WW2GliderPilots/hamilcar.htm) could carry small tanks in the allied side.

gripen

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Tails on November 26, 2005, 05:50:36 PM

We would need glider tugs for any gliders, though... Mmmm...He-111Z, with the big Messer gliders.

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: MiloMorai on November 27, 2005, 02:42:36 AM

Il-2 has the  the big Messi and the He111Z for towing. ;)

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Grendel on November 27, 2005, 05:07:56 AM

Yup, Me 323. Forerunner of all modern aerial transports. It had several innovations that were introduced to the "western" transports during the 50s and are today the basics of all transport aircraft. While it was slow, it had tremendous carrying capasity.

(http://www.waffenhq.de/flugzeuge/me323_09.jpg)

(http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW/Me323-5.jpg)

(http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW3/me323-006.jpg)

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: mipoikel on November 27, 2005, 06:06:01 AM

Lots of pics of Me323

http://skyraider.allaboutwarfare.com/files/luftwaffe/Me321_Me323/

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Angus on November 27, 2005, 06:10:13 PM

The Gigant! Mind you it was initially designed as a glider.
But of course there were several transport-carrying gliders from the allied side.
The Horsa?

As a sidenote what would have been the heaviest aircraft of WW2 to take off by it's own power. My money is on the B29, the Lancie being the runner up, but again some may have been heavier. Ok - in sqn service?

Title: Heavy Airlifting in WWII
Post by: Debonair on November 27, 2005, 06:39:25 PM

Maybe a C-69 would score up there, but not at the top, I think...