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Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 28, 2005, 01:54:50 PM
Not done, but a quick skin viewer screen cap to show the current progress. I've been planning this one for a while (but got sidetracked by the new 109s).

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/Kennel_preview1.jpg)
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: straffo on November 28, 2005, 01:57:38 PM
hmmmm chocolate !


sorry couldn't resist :)
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 28, 2005, 02:05:59 PM
I might take the brightness of the brown down a shade or two, but I've got a pretty good top/bottom/port/starboard color plate of it and it lists the RLM colors used, and has them in sample squares. I think my usual source for RLM colors (a webpage) would show a darker brown, but I wanted to see how this looked, first.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: 1K3 on November 28, 2005, 03:34:41 PM
krusty

when you're making skins,  is your windows's gamma value set at 1.0?
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: United on November 28, 2005, 03:38:10 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
krusty

when you're making skins,  is your windows's gamma value set at 1.0?

Yep, I noticed that his skins are a little bright as well.  But, thats just IMO and could be correct.  I know little to nothing of luftwaffe birds.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Bruno on November 28, 2005, 03:38:18 PM
If that is 190 A-8 W.Nr 171 789 'Black << + -'  that Major Karl Kennel surrendered in at Kitzingen then check this page:

Surrender of S.G. 2, 8 May 1945 (http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/kitzingen.htm)

You can find a profile and  photos here:

Kitzingen Photographs (http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/kitzingen1.htm)
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 28, 2005, 03:51:57 PM
I have those crash photos, or rather scans from a book that had them.

This is going to kill my bandwidth so I'm just linking them not inserting them. Check out:

http://www.nakatomitower.com/190a8_KarlKennel.jpg

and

http://www.nakatomitower.com/190a8_KarlKennel2.jpg

EDIT: Ik3, United, I do all my work at 1.0 gamma, yes. This one looks bright but has no weathering on it yet. It will become more "dull".
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 29, 2005, 02:53:43 PM
Found a better reference for RLM 76, used my older paint chips as a basis for the 81/82 as well, looking much  better now (and not as bright).

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/Kennel_preview2.jpg)
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 29, 2005, 03:14:38 PM
Oh and just so you can compare, the last one was without any weathering layers. It was "clean" to show the colors better.

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/Kennel_preview3.jpg)
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: AutoPilot on November 29, 2005, 03:18:26 PM
nice work Krusty.Will you ever consider making a JG2 "richtofen" skin with the red hawks hed going down the side too cover the exhaust markings?
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 29, 2005, 03:19:55 PM
I'm unfamiliar with this description. I was only going to skin 2-3 190a8s because there just aren't that many that appeal to me, but if you can show me another one I'm open to suggestions!
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Fencer51 on November 29, 2005, 04:25:13 PM
Wow.  VERY Nice.  I might even fly that one and I HATE 190s.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Stang on November 29, 2005, 04:51:43 PM
Hard not to hate a plane that sucks so bad.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: SkyChimp on November 29, 2005, 06:17:50 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Oh and just so you can compare, the last one was without any weathering layers. It was "clean" to show the colors better.

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/Kennel_preview3.jpg)


Ur drop sad is wayyy too dark. Lower ops to 45.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 29, 2005, 09:16:20 PM
I've actually got that only on special places, specifically the cowling that opened, the gear doors, the inboard cannon pods, and this one prominent line on the inboard leading edge. The rest of them are not like that. I think it accentuates the parts that opened or were most noticable. I'm open to removing it, however.

EDIT: I may be thinking of something different. I'll go through and tweak layers to see what I can get.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 29, 2005, 09:59:35 PM
Found it.. It was a layer that wasn't set up properly :P

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/Kennel_preview4.jpg)
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: AutoPilot on November 29, 2005, 10:12:46 PM
The aircraft in mention Krusty is Hans "Assi" Hahn's personal aircraft.He was the Staffelkapitan of 4 Staffel/JG 2during the early stages of the BOB.

I have Black and white photo's of the plane but no scanner.All of JG/2's aircraft were had the cockerell painted on the fuelselage,be it a cockerell head or a huge red head covering the engine loovers and part of the fuelselage.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 29, 2005, 10:58:19 PM
EDIT 2: You mean the Fw 190A-3 he flew? Hrm... we used to have it before the FW was upgraded, but it was a bit of a stretch for the A5 model.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: AutoPilot on November 30, 2005, 11:52:26 AM
I dont see why the A-5 cannot just represent all the A models due too limited plane set.

If you do decide too make it,what about 2 weeks till it's done?
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 30, 2005, 12:05:30 PM
The thing about the A3 and the A5 is that they are different enough that we might someday get the A3. It was the first production unit that saw combat if I recall. There was a similar A5 skin done for Egon Meyer that had a similar paint scheme and the same rooster head (same squadron) but was for a later plane. It was done by Kweassa... Maybe we can get him to remake it? *cough*ComeOnKweassa!*cough*

If he were interested I could supply him with my 190a5 template *hint*hint*

EDIT: my bad, he already re-made it! Check out III/JG2 in-game.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: AutoPilot on November 30, 2005, 02:07:21 PM
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It was the first production unit that saw combat if I recall.



6.Staffel/JG26 was the test unit for the 190-A-1 that rolled from the factory at Marienburg July 1941.By September the entire II./JG26 had been re-equipped.On 26 September the first dogfight between a superior force of spit's and 4 190's from the 6.staffel./JG26 took place.It ended with 3 downed spit's and no downed 190's.JG/2 "Richthofen" was the 2nd squad to re-equip with the 190 in the spring of 1942.

I took that exceprt from Focke Wulf 190 "The birth of the Butcherbird":by Morten Jennsen.It's a series of imformative books on Luftwaffe of WW2 with rare photo's and some color photo's as well.
Title: 190a8 Karl Kennel II./SG2
Post by: Krusty on November 30, 2005, 02:33:26 PM
True, but the A3 was the first one produced in any real numbers. The A1 was being tested (tested in combat) but it was still just being tested. The A3 was the first major variant that saw widespread distribution, is more of what I was thinking.

EDIT: Oh and I think I'm done with Kennel's A8. I think I'm going to submit it.

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/Kennel_preview.jpg)