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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: tatertot on November 30, 2005, 01:35:32 PM
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Well since 999000 is knight and i rook i figure it as good as any time to learn the fighters a little better is there a volunteer out there who is willing to spend a hour or so tpo help a brother out.Ive been in this game for 4 years and i think its high time i learn the furbal stuff;)
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Originally posted by tatertot
Well since 999000 is knight and i rook i figure it as good as any time to learn the fighters a little better is there a volunteer out there who is willing to spend a hour or so tpo help a brother out.Ive been in this game for 4 years and i think its high time i learn the furbal stuff;)
Fightering is easy:
1) Pick out a Spit, Hurricane or Fm2.
2) Wait for him to get fixated on a friendly.
3) Once he blows all of his E to stallfight dive in on him and unceremoniously send him back to tower.
4) Tune 200 to hear the squeals.
5) Chuckle with delight.
6) Rinse and repeat. ;)
End of Lesson.
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Zazen
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Nope :)
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Of course tater! I'm taking a "break" from a rather large paper due today which I also started today (hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...?) but this week would be good for me. I had a rather large wrench thrown into my deer season plans so I'm heading back in the woods on Saturday/Sunday.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Fightering is easy:
1) Pick out a Spit, Hurricane or Fm2.
2) Wait for him to get fixated on a friendly.
3) Once he blows all of his E to stallfight Dive in on him and unceremoniously send him back to tower.
4) Tune 200 to hear the squeals.
5) Chuckle with delight.
6) Rinse and repeat. ;)
End of Lesson.
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Zazen
And if you cant do this, position yourself far enough back in the horde so as not to be in jepordy but close enough that a few dummies are upping when you arrive at the capped base and VULCH like hell.
Make sure that you have zoom set to max so you can see if they have thier wheels up, they must be up to claim a righteous air to air kill.
shamus
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the biggest problem is my gunning cant figure were to shoot ive tried the target but still its alot different than buff guns in those i aim high as the bullets will fall sorta each buff is dif so it seems in a fighter bullets dont angle is that true and whats the best gunsight to counter act this
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Originally posted by tatertot
the biggest problem is my gunning cant figure were to shoot ive tried the target but still its alot different than buff guns in those i aim high as the bullets will fall sorta each buff is dif so it seems in a fighter bullets dont angle is that true and whats the best gunsight to counter act this
best gunsight to counter it is an experienced eye. just get a little practise. a few days in the TA and lead should come pretty natural to you, seeing as you already know how to shoot right with buffs. just dont get to serious. get in a spit or something with some cannons with good ballistics (hispanos) and go out in the MA and have a laugh. best way to learn anything is to have fun doing it
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another issue i have is i use up my ammo to fast i fly the 190a5 and do ok as long as i stay fast still in need alot of ammo lol guess we all do but ill try the spitty how about the a6m and or the tei one i like those because they turn well just not any good at them yet .HEY gOLFER hows the back shame i missed you guys for the reunion smack Trek for me he forgot to call
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Fightering is easy:
1) Get in a Typhoon or a Tempest.
2) Wait for him to get fixated on a friendly.
3) Once he blows all of his E to stallfight dive in on him and unceremoniously send him back to tower.
4) Tune 200 to hear the squeals.
5) Chuckle with delight.
6) Rinse and repeat. ;)
End of Lesson.
:aok
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tater - I am by no means an elite BK fighter, but I can provide this on running out of ammo:
1. Dont think about shooting till you are within 600 of an enemy. 400 and less is my preferred shooting distance, but 600 and even more seems to work well for the experienced ballistics guys.
2. Fire 1-2 second bursts at a time, and dont shoot unless you know you have a spittin' chance at hitting your enemy. What I mean is, if you are trailing an enemy who is turning the dickens out of you, wait till you have a good lead angle on him before bursting your guns.
I usually never run out of ammo unless I am buff hunting or am vulching alot at a base the knits are trying to take. (yes, I vulch to keep the bad guys outta the air when i want to land grab).
good luck, and dont get frustrated, it takes alot of practice till 'it clicks' for you
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tatertot, just practice. you'll find yourself needing less and less ammo for a kill. just get close, a lot of bomber guys fire from 800 yrds, which works because of the closing distances and uber 50 cals. in fighters, get under 300 yrds before you fire, and let em rip, in short bursts. practise is the key
edit: keep at it, it takes learning and brain cells doh!:furious and don't forget, chicks dig fighter jocks!! :D
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Im certainly no gunnery expert, but heres a few things you can try...
- get up close and personal: i usually only open fire at d200 (d400 if im desperate), dont forget to set your convergence, depending on your usual 'shooting distance'
- small bursts only. Aim, then shoot. Do not 'walk' your tracers onto the target
- go offline (enable lead computed gunsight in SETUP>ARENA SETUP>ENVIROMENT>ArenaSettings, choose FlightModeFlags from list, click change, make sure the LCG is checked, then click OK), now disable friendly lock with Ctrl TAB, by hitting TAB in fligh you can now mark the drones when they are in icon range, itll give you a cross - point you need to aim at to hit the cockpit of the plane, try to get a 'gun eye' - memorize the picture when having a gun solution
- if you run out of ammo too fast offline, change the ammo multiplier to 100000... thatll give you unlimited ammo to practice
- dont fire different gun types at the same time (ie canon and 303) as they have very different ballistics and you probably wont hit with both unless youre really close (d50)
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Originally posted by tatertot
Well since 999000 is knight and i rook i figure it as good as any time to learn the fighters a little better is there a volunteer out there who is willing to spend a hour or so tpo help a brother out.Ive been in this game for 4 years and i think its high time i learn the furbal stuff;)
Tatertot, bro, anytime and for as long as you want I will go DA and help as much as possible. I have a few tricks that work well and some new ones I'm working on myself. Just give me a ch200 shout bro!
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Go offline ... then in the arena settings (hopefully some can point you to the right one) turn the ammo multiplier up to its max.
Take the plane you want to start with ... Spit Variant would be good ... and then shoot down the drones until you run out of ammo. Then do it again and again and again.
Fly at every possible angle to the drones and start letting the lead lose.
You WILL miss alot at the beginning, but as you progress thru the exercise and angles, you will then begin to "see" the lead shot.
For me ... the dead 6 is the hardest shot ... YMMV.
Take up the other offers for instruction, but going offline and shooting alot of bullets really does help.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
- small bursts only. Aim, then shoot. Do not 'walk' your tracers onto the target
In fact, turn the damn tracers off. It makes your targets squirm when they see 'em. :)
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Originally posted by SlapShot
For me ... the dead 6 is the hardest shot ... YMMV.
true, i find that too. strangely, i would prefer a 90 degree snapshot to a dead six, i just find it far easier, because of the profile size.
lol, iv'e been known to waste 50 cannon rounds on a dead 6 shot at 200 yrds lol, while i can sometimes get really nice, 600yrd 90 deg snapshots, using like 5 rounds lol:lol
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Originally posted by Sandman
In fact, turn the damn tracers off. It makes your targets squirm when they see 'em. :)
Actually i think for starters the tracers are good, since you can actually *see* if you pull too little (very probable) or too much lead.
PS: I have tracers off. (Turning them back on a few weeks ago made my hit% drop to 1-2%.......needless to say theyre off for good now :))
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Actually i think for starters the tracers are good, since you can actually *see* if you pull too little (very probable) or too much lead.
PS: I have tracers off. (Turning them back on a few weeks ago made my hit% drop to 1-2%.......needless to say theyre off for good now :))
I've tried them on and off. My gunnery is about the same either way. The thing is you kind of want the guy to turn, a turning plane is a much higher profile target than one that isn't. Tracers are also great for making runners break.
Zazen
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Well since 999000 is knight and i rook i figure it as good as any time to learn the fighters a little better is there a volunteer out there who is willing to spend a hour or so tpo help a brother out.Ive been in this game for 4 years and i think its high time i learn the furbal stuff
Whhooo hooo - that means less hangers down. Welcome to the darkside tater :D.
Good luck.
It's all thrust vextors and gun solutions :D
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Do what Slapshot but also turn tracers off and set your convergence at the range you normally start scoring hits at.
Tracers ONLY help someone when you are trying to scare an enemy off their 6, they do nothing for you. If you've been shooting from buffs this long, you don't need them.
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Uh,
This is a troll right?
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Originally posted by tatertot
Well since 999000 is knight and i rook i figure it as good as any time to learn the fighters a little better is there a volunteer out there who is willing to spend a hour or so tpo help a brother out.Ive been in this game for 4 years and i think its high time i learn the furbal stuff;)
TATER:eek:
ehhe wouldn't mind seeing u in fighter.
I think u would be good in ki84 or 38g
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ok so last night i did the offline stuff dif angles dif planes as i stated earlier i tend to like the axis planes alittle better not sure why i just do .i used the spits,190s kis and the 38 and typh.But offline is alot dif than ma lol dah but i think just with a couple of hrs i have a better idea of the bursts i need now if i just get the idea when to judge someones turn i might be ok.i didnt even try online as i wanted to get the burst down first next up is some good old schooling by you guys.i look forward to the lessons and thanks for the imput never can get enough of it as to it will make me get better LOOK OUT IFV I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT MUHAHAHAHAHAH by the way think i =can get ht to give me a rear gun (just a 45 will do) just in case
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...judge someones turn i might be ok.i didnt even try online as i wanted to get the burst down first next up is some good old schooling by you guys.i look forward to the lessons and thanks for the imput never can get enough of it as to it will make me get better LOOK OUT IFV I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT MUHAHAHAHAHAH by the way think i =can get ht to give me a rear gun (just a 45 will do) just in case
LOL Tater,
When judgeing the turn, you want to be able to read the other guys projected thrust vector (JIC - his path thru the air). From that you want to read the where his spinner is pointing to see his probable bullet path. You want to tay just inside, or outside of that all the time manuevering for that no shot position, while trying to stay close to him so you can manuever into a kill position.
I can't wait see you down in the weeds. If you want the fastest way in, look for the biggest enemy dar bar and fly out at about 3 or 4 k. Don't concentrate on getting kills the first few times, concentrate on staying alive. This will help with target fixation. In that environment if you have to take a second shot, there is probably now someone starting to dive on you LOL.
When you have had enough bobing and weaving and your heart is about to pop out of you chest, climb up on a pearch and do some cherry picking to practice your gunnery and slow things down and get a good feel for the plane.
Number 1 rule, don't ever climb to an enemy, unless you know you have an e advantage. Rope a Dope stings cause you know better LOLH.
Anyway, ramblings from an average stick. :aok
Now you just gotta bring 999 down with yah. FI - 999 takes up the Art of Fur and turns into Shane in every what LOL :D
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try taking a ride in sombodys fighter. had several people i was training tell me that helps a lot.
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ok first night got 2 kills 2 assists wait that still suxs lol
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Fightering is easy:
1) Pick out a Spit, Hurricane or Fm2.
2) Wait for him to get fixated on a friendly.
3) Once he blows all of his E to stallfight dive in on him and unceremoniously send him back to tower.
4) Tune 200 to hear the squeals.
5) Chuckle with delight.
6) Rinse and repeat. ;)
End of Lesson.
:aok
Zazen
He said he wanted to fight not admit he was ghey. Now go back to your leg waxing... :p
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Originally posted by DipStick
He said he wanted to fight not admit he was ghey. Now go back to your leg waxing... :p
Yes! Sir!
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Zazen